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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2012 - 12:48 PM ET #1

    Looks like they lose 2nd round picks in '12 and '13.  GM gets 8 game suspension and a fine of $500K. S. Payton gone for the year.  
    G. Williams suspended indefinitely.  

    I am probably missing a fine for Payton, but this looks like most of it.  They are lucky they didn't lose any 1st round picks.  
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    Looks like they lose 2nd round picks in '12 and '13.  GM gets 8 game suspension and a fine of $500K. S. Payton gone for the year.  
    G. Williams suspended indefinitely.  

    I am probably missing a fine for Payton, but this looks like most of it.  They are lucky they didn't lose any 1st round picks.  
     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2012 - 12:50 PM ET #2

    Saints as a team also fined $500K.  
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2012 - 12:56 PM ET #3

    The fucking HAMMER has been dropped wow
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2012 - 12:57 PM ET #4

    They got hammered. I love it. I hate this f'n team
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2012 - 1:03 PM ET #5

    Not enough.

    They need to have more draft picks taken and the HC gone for longer but suspending Williams is for sure the right decision.

    At least it is something though..better than looking the other way.
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    Not enough.

    They need to have more draft picks taken and the HC gone for longer but suspending Williams is for sure the right decision.

    At least it is something though..better than looking the other way.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2012 - 1:07 PM ET #6

    what a joke. all former players laugh at this bounty stuff for the most part. Its been part of the game forever. Not sure the saints deserve this kind of punishment for such a common practice
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    what a joke. all former players laugh at this bounty stuff for the most part. Its been part of the game forever. Not sure the saints deserve this kind of punishment for such a common practice
     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2012 - 1:08 PM ET #7

    Just because its common practice doesn't mean it should be taken lightly
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2012 - 1:08 PM ET #8

    Wow, they got drilled.  Bad timing for the the Saints to have this come to light at a time when the league is focusing on player safety.  Goodell obviously wanted to send a message and he's clearly not messing around on this.
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    Wow, they got drilled.  Bad timing for the the Saints to have this come to light at a time when the league is focusing on player safety.  Goodell obviously wanted to send a message and he's clearly not messing around on this.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2012 - 1:19 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by Messier-11:

    what a joke. all former players laugh at this bounty stuff for the most part. Its been part of the game forever. Not sure the saints deserve this kind of punishment for such a common practice

    Then consider it punishment for being morons.  They were given strict instructions to stop it and they know how cut throat the Commish is. Serves 'em right for being idiots.  

    Personally, the money doesn't mean dick.  They all can afford it.  1 year without a coach.....not that big of a deal....they will survive.  I would have preferred they take their 2012 and 2013 FIRST round picks.  That's what hits home.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by Messier-11:

    what a joke. all former players laugh at this bounty stuff for the most part. Its been part of the game forever. Not sure the saints deserve this kind of punishment for such a common practice

    Then consider it punishment for being morons.  They were given strict instructions to stop it and they know how cut throat the Commish is. Serves 'em right for being idiots.  

    Personally, the money doesn't mean dick.  They all can afford it.  1 year without a coach.....not that big of a deal....they will survive.  I would have preferred they take their 2012 and 2013 FIRST round picks.  That's what hits home.  
     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2012 - 1:43 PM ET #10

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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2012 - 1:49 PM ET #11

    I wonder how many people have money on the Saints to win the Super Bowl...saying this is the year...because the Saints are hosting the Super Bowl next year. Interesting...
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    I wonder how many people have money on the Saints to win the Super Bowl...saying this is the year...because the Saints are hosting the Super Bowl next year. Interesting...
     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2012 - 1:51 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Not enough.

    They need to have more draft picks taken and the HC gone for longer but suspending Williams is for sure the right decision.

    At least it is something though..better than looking the other way.

    i concur, i can still remember that Saints defenders launched those vicious hits on Brett Farve in that NFC Championship Game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Not enough.

    They need to have more draft picks taken and the HC gone for longer but suspending Williams is for sure the right decision.

    At least it is something though..better than looking the other way.

    i concur, i can still remember that Saints defenders launched those vicious hits on Brett Farve in that NFC Championship Game.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2012 - 1:52 PM ET #13

    the nfl just put a bounty on the saints
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2012 - 1:53 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:

    They got hammered. I love it. I hate this f'n team

    What sort of sick, twisted individual hates the Saints?    It's like being furious at Slovenia.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:

    They got hammered. I love it. I hate this f'n team

    What sort of sick, twisted individual hates the Saints?    It's like being furious at Slovenia.  

     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2012 - 1:54 PM ET #15

    *Favre
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2012 - 2:16 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    i concur, i can still remember that Saints defenders launched those vicious hits on Brett Farve in that NFC Championship Game.


    That and the cheap shot on Warner the previous game.

    See ya Williams, you fraud.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    i concur, i can still remember that Saints defenders launched those vicious hits on Brett Farve in that NFC Championship Game.


    That and the cheap shot on Warner the previous game.

    See ya Williams, you fraud.



     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2012 - 2:41 PM ET #17

    This is huge punishment...

    Payton suspended 1 yr w/o pay - $6 mil
    GM Loomis suspended 8 games w/o pay - guessing $500K
    Saints assist. HC Vitt for 6 games w/o pay - guessing $200k
    Rams DC Williams suspended indef, min 1 yr, w/o pay - guessing $500K.  Wouldn't be surprise if Fisher parts way w/ him now too.

    Saints fined $500K, loses 2012 and 2013 2nd rd picks.

    There will also be players suspensions as this part is still under investigation.

    This has complete NFL statement...  https://blogs.mercurynews.com/49ers/2012/03/21/fallout-from-saints-bounties-49ers-wont-face-saints-payton-or-rams-williams-in-2012/

    It's pretty damning for Payton, Williams, and Vitt - They lied/misled/fabricated the truth to league when 1st asked about it in 2010 and that's a NO-NO boys.  I bet this played large part in putting the hammer down.
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    This is huge punishment...

    Payton suspended 1 yr w/o pay - $6 mil
    GM Loomis suspended 8 games w/o pay - guessing $500K
    Saints assist. HC Vitt for 6 games w/o pay - guessing $200k
    Rams DC Williams suspended indef, min 1 yr, w/o pay - guessing $500K.  Wouldn't be surprise if Fisher parts way w/ him now too.

    Saints fined $500K, loses 2012 and 2013 2nd rd picks.

    There will also be players suspensions as this part is still under investigation.

    This has complete NFL statement...  https://blogs.mercurynews.com/49ers/2012/03/21/fallout-from-saints-bounties-49ers-wont-face-saints-payton-or-rams-williams-in-2012/

    It's pretty damning for Payton, Williams, and Vitt - They lied/misled/fabricated the truth to league when 1st asked about it in 2010 and that's a NO-NO boys.  I bet this played large part in putting the hammer down.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2012 - 2:54 PM ET #18

    They did not have a 1st round pick to lose! That's why.
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2012 - 3:00 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    That and the cheap shot on Warner the previous game.

    See ya Williams, you fraud.



    NFL investigation finds Saints bounty program targeted Brett Favre, Cam Newton, Aaron Rogers and Kurt Warner.

    Kurt Warner got laided by Saints defender after Warner threw the INT in that NFC Divisional Playoff.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=9CC1mpi7hIM&feature=endscreen

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    That and the cheap shot on Warner the previous game.

    See ya Williams, you fraud.



    NFL investigation finds Saints bounty program targeted Brett Favre, Cam Newton, Aaron Rogers and Kurt Warner.

    Kurt Warner got laided by Saints defender after Warner threw the INT in that NFC Divisional Playoff.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=9CC1mpi7hIM&feature=endscreen

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2012 - 3:17 PM ET #20

    They deserve all they get

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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2012 - 3:18 PM ET #21

    Sorry for partying. Fuck the commish. 
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    Williams also had a bounty program at previous stops. That's why he got the big hammer. Would not be suprised if NFL puts conditions on his being hired in the not so near future.........
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2012 - 3:24 PM ET #23

    wow i'm shocked payton got a year . That kills me saints go 19-0 prediction
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    BTW..................who snitched?
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    No one has come forward yet. 
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