And you're also not giving us any tangible reasons to believe it can.
NO is very iffy on its rushing attack and as such the way to set the tone in this game is constant pressure on Brees (who has thrown a lion's share of interceptions this second half [yes by Brees standards he has sucked]); Carrol will recognize this an rally his interior squad to step it up at home; factor in the crowd noise Brees will be perplexed; this is the only way the can will is to thwart Breese; on the offensive side they will find a way to control the clock--that is, Carrol's plan will be for short and sweet in routes to receivers coupled with some swing runs with the running backs; this game will in my estimation come down to special teams and with Reggie back there in clutch times; I like my chances for a Seahawks covers;
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Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:
And you're also not giving us any tangible reasons to believe it can.
NO is very iffy on its rushing attack and as such the way to set the tone in this game is constant pressure on Brees (who has thrown a lion's share of interceptions this second half [yes by Brees standards he has sucked]); Carrol will recognize this an rally his interior squad to step it up at home; factor in the crowd noise Brees will be perplexed; this is the only way the can will is to thwart Breese; on the offensive side they will find a way to control the clock--that is, Carrol's plan will be for short and sweet in routes to receivers coupled with some swing runs with the running backs; this game will in my estimation come down to special teams and with Reggie back there in clutch times; I like my chances for a Seahawks covers;
NO is very iffy on its rushing attack and as such the way to set the tone in this game is constant pressure on Brees (who has thrown a lion's share of interceptions this second half [yes by Brees standards he has sucked]); Carrol will recognize this an rally his interior squad to step it up at home; factor in the crowd noise Brees will be perplexed; this is the only way the can will is to thwart Breese; on the offensive side they will find a way to control the clock--that is, Carrol's plan will be for short and sweet in routes to receivers coupled with some swing runs with the running backs; this game will in my estimation come down to special teams and with Reggie back there in clutch times; I like my chances for a Seahawks covers;
not exactly sure what you have seen from sea pass defense to think they can "thwart" anyone let alone one of the better qbs over the last 5 years....dont get me wrong laying 10 on the road never seems like a good idea to me but taking 10 with a team that has had no problems losing BIG when they lose just doesnt make a lot of sense to me either.. think we all can agree Saints win this game (if we dont agree on that really no point in talking anymore) and seeing how badly sea loses when they go down just not sure why anyone would play them with less than 2 tds...
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Quote Originally Posted by crowndaking:
NO is very iffy on its rushing attack and as such the way to set the tone in this game is constant pressure on Brees (who has thrown a lion's share of interceptions this second half [yes by Brees standards he has sucked]); Carrol will recognize this an rally his interior squad to step it up at home; factor in the crowd noise Brees will be perplexed; this is the only way the can will is to thwart Breese; on the offensive side they will find a way to control the clock--that is, Carrol's plan will be for short and sweet in routes to receivers coupled with some swing runs with the running backs; this game will in my estimation come down to special teams and with Reggie back there in clutch times; I like my chances for a Seahawks covers;
not exactly sure what you have seen from sea pass defense to think they can "thwart" anyone let alone one of the better qbs over the last 5 years....dont get me wrong laying 10 on the road never seems like a good idea to me but taking 10 with a team that has had no problems losing BIG when they lose just doesnt make a lot of sense to me either.. think we all can agree Saints win this game (if we dont agree on that really no point in talking anymore) and seeing how badly sea loses when they go down just not sure why anyone would play them with less than 2 tds...
not exactly sure what you have seen from sea pass defense to think they can "thwart" anyone let alone one of the better qbs over the last 5 years....dont get me wrong laying 10 on the road never seems like a good idea to me but taking 10 with a team that has had no problems losing BIG when they lose just doesnt make a lot of sense to me either.. think we all can agree Saints win this game (if we dont agree on that really no point in talking anymore) and seeing how badly sea loses when they go down just not sure why anyone would play them with less than 2 tds...
Yes they are anemic but somehow being on home turf in the doldrums of the Seattle mew quells a more talented foe
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Quote Originally Posted by IlikeDawgs:
not exactly sure what you have seen from sea pass defense to think they can "thwart" anyone let alone one of the better qbs over the last 5 years....dont get me wrong laying 10 on the road never seems like a good idea to me but taking 10 with a team that has had no problems losing BIG when they lose just doesnt make a lot of sense to me either.. think we all can agree Saints win this game (if we dont agree on that really no point in talking anymore) and seeing how badly sea loses when they go down just not sure why anyone would play them with less than 2 tds...
Yes they are anemic but somehow being on home turf in the doldrums of the Seattle mew quells a more talented foe
not exactly sure what you have seen from sea pass defense to think they can "thwart" anyone let alone one of the better qbs over the last 5 years....dont get me wrong laying 10 on the road never seems like a good idea to me but taking 10 with a team that has had no problems losing BIG when they lose just doesnt make a lot of sense to me either.. think we all can agree Saints win this game (if we dont agree on that really no point in talking anymore) and seeing how badly sea loses when they go down just not sure why anyone would play them with less than 2 tds...
..you write this..and your name is ilikedawgs..people would think you will be on seattle side..or..maybe you think they are favs..well..to be honest..i dont blame you for that..I think they are 2..gimme seattle -3!!!
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Quote Originally Posted by IlikeDawgs:
not exactly sure what you have seen from sea pass defense to think they can "thwart" anyone let alone one of the better qbs over the last 5 years....dont get me wrong laying 10 on the road never seems like a good idea to me but taking 10 with a team that has had no problems losing BIG when they lose just doesnt make a lot of sense to me either.. think we all can agree Saints win this game (if we dont agree on that really no point in talking anymore) and seeing how badly sea loses when they go down just not sure why anyone would play them with less than 2 tds...
..you write this..and your name is ilikedawgs..people would think you will be on seattle side..or..maybe you think they are favs..well..to be honest..i dont blame you for that..I think they are 2..gimme seattle -3!!!
IF? IF? IF? IF? IF? IF? My sincerest congratulations on a fine piece of handicapping. The 'hawks overmatched the Saints on both sides of the ball. IF is the biggest two letter word in the language.
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IF? IF? IF? IF? IF? IF? My sincerest congratulations on a fine piece of handicapping. The 'hawks overmatched the Saints on both sides of the ball. IF is the biggest two letter word in the language.
That was the thread title in another NFL forum. Here's what I responded with:
Why the Seahawks have a chance to defeat the Saints on Saturday:
#1 - It's NFL football. Anything can happen. All the bounces can go one way. All the huge penalties can be called on one team. God can make Steve Johnson drop a pass. A forcefield along the sidelines can keep a James Jones fumble in bounds. Tony Romo can drop a simple hold. Anthony Wright can play like Joe Montana for a half. The officials can choose to give one team four timeouts. Special teams can swing one way. Someone can play out of his mind. Someone can play the worst game of his career. Important players can get injured.
The Saints may be clearly a better football team right now on paper but ALL THAT MATTERS IS HOW WELL YOU PLAY ON THAT DAY.
#2 - The Seahawks are home and boast one of the best homefield advantages in all of football (if not the best). Electric Energy. The Saints also have to prepare for two QBs and travel across the country on a short week.
#3 - The Saints are a good team. But they are not unbeatable. In fact, they don't appear to be close to the team that won it all last year. Drew Brees is still Drew Brees, but he's turning the ball over more than ever for some reason. This very Seahawks defense forced two interceptions on Brees in Week 11. They're also banged up. Malcom Jenkins, Colston, Ivory, Thomas, are all dealing with injuries. And they somehowlost to the Browns and Cardinals this season. I know those were different games on different days and really mean nothing in terms of Saturday but the point is they've reached that floor twice, so it's at least POSSIBLE to happen again.
#4 - The first meeting in New Orleans. While it is true that the Seahawks defense simply could not stop Drew Brees on that particular day, they did keep the game competitive, and had a few things gone just little differently, the outcome may have been different. Consider:
-It is very difficult to beat a team twice in the NFL. It is EXTREMELY difficult to beat a team by 10+ points twice in the NFL.
-After both teams first possessions went 3-and-out, the Hawks put together a 9 play 80-yard drive and were stuffed at the Saints 1-yard line. Olindo Mare kicked a 20-yard FG. Punching that in may have changed things.
-The Seahawks actually moved the ball well all game. In fact, Mare kicked FOUR field goals. If two of those drives go for 7 instead of 3, things are different.
Here are some stats to highlight how the Hawks offense performed in their individual matchups against the Saints personnel..
Hasselbeck: 32 for 44, 366 yards, 1 touchdown, 0 turnovers. OL pass blocking: 0 sacks given up. BMW: 6 catches for 100 yards on 7 targets. Lynch: 5.1 ypc on 7 carries, 2 lost fumbles.
In other words, a prediction of Seattle scoring just 7 points isn't very logical because if you look at the last meeting it's clear that they obviously aren't overmatched by the Saints D.
-Their only touchdown (a two-yard pass to Ben Obomanu) cut the lead to 21-13 and was immediately responded by Brees and Colston on a beautiful play. To cut it one score and then have that TD erased IMMEDIATELY is a huge blow mentally and momentum-wise.
-Marshawn Lynch lost TWO fumbles in that game. Those are the types of mistakes that an underdog can't make. After also losing a costly fumble last week, it's logical to assume that with emphasis on ball security, these turnovers may not occur in the next meeting at Qwest.
Of course, if the Seahawks don't play better on defense (in the secondary, rushing the passer), the Saints are going to score at will again. But why can't they play better on this particular day? Especially at home?
#5 - Special Teams. Jon Ryan is one of the best punters in the league. Olindo Mare is very good. Leon Washington can take it back anytime he touches it. Garrett Hartley can miss big kicks, Reggie Bush can fumble, and Pierre Thomas/whoever else is returning kicks isn't much of a threat for a great return. The Saints are better on O and D but ST is 1/3 of the game and the Hawks have a clear advantage there.
#6 - Based on the Saints road games this season, the Seahawks will most likely be able to keep it close. Close game at home in the NFL playoffs = they've got a shot to win it.
Look at New Orleans on the road this year:
-Defeated Alex Smith and the 49ers by 3.
-LOST 30-20 to Max Hall and the Arizona Cardinals in the only other game this year they went out west anywhere near Seattle.
-Destroyed Tampa Bay. Got off to a fast start and the Bucs played probably their worst game of the year.
-Destroyed Carolina. OK who cares.
-Defeated Jon Kitna and the Cowboys by 3 on Thanksgiving (helped by Garrett's ridiculous FG decisions).
-Defeated the 4-12 Bengals by 4.
-Lost in Baltimore.
-Defeated the Falcons by 3.
Vegas has the road team favored by 10+ here, but if you look at how they've actually performed away from NO, how can you back them to win in a blowout? Then if it's close in the 4th Q, the home team can definitely win it.
I'm not saying it's going to happen. I'm not saying the Saints can't impose their will and demolish Seattle. On paper, they absolutely should. I'm just saying there's a chance - as there's always a chance- that the Seattle Seahawks shock the World Champion New Orleans Saints at home on Saturday.
Just saw this post
Great one at that not jumping on the bandwagon had sea and the over yesterday
Now do 1 on the Jets going into foxboro and winning outright
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Quote Originally Posted by gpngc:
That was the thread title in another NFL forum. Here's what I responded with:
Why the Seahawks have a chance to defeat the Saints on Saturday:
#1 - It's NFL football. Anything can happen. All the bounces can go one way. All the huge penalties can be called on one team. God can make Steve Johnson drop a pass. A forcefield along the sidelines can keep a James Jones fumble in bounds. Tony Romo can drop a simple hold. Anthony Wright can play like Joe Montana for a half. The officials can choose to give one team four timeouts. Special teams can swing one way. Someone can play out of his mind. Someone can play the worst game of his career. Important players can get injured.
The Saints may be clearly a better football team right now on paper but ALL THAT MATTERS IS HOW WELL YOU PLAY ON THAT DAY.
#2 - The Seahawks are home and boast one of the best homefield advantages in all of football (if not the best). Electric Energy. The Saints also have to prepare for two QBs and travel across the country on a short week.
#3 - The Saints are a good team. But they are not unbeatable. In fact, they don't appear to be close to the team that won it all last year. Drew Brees is still Drew Brees, but he's turning the ball over more than ever for some reason. This very Seahawks defense forced two interceptions on Brees in Week 11. They're also banged up. Malcom Jenkins, Colston, Ivory, Thomas, are all dealing with injuries. And they somehowlost to the Browns and Cardinals this season. I know those were different games on different days and really mean nothing in terms of Saturday but the point is they've reached that floor twice, so it's at least POSSIBLE to happen again.
#4 - The first meeting in New Orleans. While it is true that the Seahawks defense simply could not stop Drew Brees on that particular day, they did keep the game competitive, and had a few things gone just little differently, the outcome may have been different. Consider:
-It is very difficult to beat a team twice in the NFL. It is EXTREMELY difficult to beat a team by 10+ points twice in the NFL.
-After both teams first possessions went 3-and-out, the Hawks put together a 9 play 80-yard drive and were stuffed at the Saints 1-yard line. Olindo Mare kicked a 20-yard FG. Punching that in may have changed things.
-The Seahawks actually moved the ball well all game. In fact, Mare kicked FOUR field goals. If two of those drives go for 7 instead of 3, things are different.
Here are some stats to highlight how the Hawks offense performed in their individual matchups against the Saints personnel..
Hasselbeck: 32 for 44, 366 yards, 1 touchdown, 0 turnovers. OL pass blocking: 0 sacks given up. BMW: 6 catches for 100 yards on 7 targets. Lynch: 5.1 ypc on 7 carries, 2 lost fumbles.
In other words, a prediction of Seattle scoring just 7 points isn't very logical because if you look at the last meeting it's clear that they obviously aren't overmatched by the Saints D.
-Their only touchdown (a two-yard pass to Ben Obomanu) cut the lead to 21-13 and was immediately responded by Brees and Colston on a beautiful play. To cut it one score and then have that TD erased IMMEDIATELY is a huge blow mentally and momentum-wise.
-Marshawn Lynch lost TWO fumbles in that game. Those are the types of mistakes that an underdog can't make. After also losing a costly fumble last week, it's logical to assume that with emphasis on ball security, these turnovers may not occur in the next meeting at Qwest.
Of course, if the Seahawks don't play better on defense (in the secondary, rushing the passer), the Saints are going to score at will again. But why can't they play better on this particular day? Especially at home?
#5 - Special Teams. Jon Ryan is one of the best punters in the league. Olindo Mare is very good. Leon Washington can take it back anytime he touches it. Garrett Hartley can miss big kicks, Reggie Bush can fumble, and Pierre Thomas/whoever else is returning kicks isn't much of a threat for a great return. The Saints are better on O and D but ST is 1/3 of the game and the Hawks have a clear advantage there.
#6 - Based on the Saints road games this season, the Seahawks will most likely be able to keep it close. Close game at home in the NFL playoffs = they've got a shot to win it.
Look at New Orleans on the road this year:
-Defeated Alex Smith and the 49ers by 3.
-LOST 30-20 to Max Hall and the Arizona Cardinals in the only other game this year they went out west anywhere near Seattle.
-Destroyed Tampa Bay. Got off to a fast start and the Bucs played probably their worst game of the year.
-Destroyed Carolina. OK who cares.
-Defeated Jon Kitna and the Cowboys by 3 on Thanksgiving (helped by Garrett's ridiculous FG decisions).
-Defeated the 4-12 Bengals by 4.
-Lost in Baltimore.
-Defeated the Falcons by 3.
Vegas has the road team favored by 10+ here, but if you look at how they've actually performed away from NO, how can you back them to win in a blowout? Then if it's close in the 4th Q, the home team can definitely win it.
I'm not saying it's going to happen. I'm not saying the Saints can't impose their will and demolish Seattle. On paper, they absolutely should. I'm just saying there's a chance - as there's always a chance- that the Seattle Seahawks shock the World Champion New Orleans Saints at home on Saturday.
Just saw this post
Great one at that not jumping on the bandwagon had sea and the over yesterday
Now do 1 on the Jets going into foxboro and winning outright
I had them too though not as bad as it could have been and my jets made up for it ---- who do you like today ? If seattle could do it so can chiefs and GB
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Mr B ...No comment?
I know it will be a good one though
I had them too though not as bad as it could have been and my jets made up for it ---- who do you like today ? If seattle could do it so can chiefs and GB
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