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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2021 - 7:53 AM ET #1

    It’s sad when people on this forum talk about games being scripted/staged/setup. I tend to lean on the side of players and coaches busting their tail to prepare to play these games week after week. It’s not easy to ask players to perform under pressure in front of millions. It’s sports people… if golfers duff under pressure and lose a tournament, you would call that a fix too? 

    Lets just give credit that these line makers are just that damn good and many games henge on 1-2 big plays and in football it’s always coming down to last possession whether you win or lose. Hell I had the under 49.5 in the Arizona game and sweated it out but not once would I have claimed fix if Green Bay or Arizona scored. Vent your frustration on players not making the plays but don’t compare real sport competition to wwf. Come on people, you’re better than that. 

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    It’s sad when people on this forum talk about games being scripted/staged/setup. I tend to lean on the side of players and coaches busting their tail to prepare to play these games week after week. It’s not easy to ask players to perform under pressure in front of millions. It’s sports people… if golfers duff under pressure and lose a tournament, you would call that a fix too? 

    Lets just give credit that these line makers are just that damn good and many games henge on 1-2 big plays and in football it’s always coming down to last possession whether you win or lose. Hell I had the under 49.5 in the Arizona game and sweated it out but not once would I have claimed fix if Green Bay or Arizona scored. Vent your frustration on players not making the plays but don’t compare real sport competition to wwf. Come on people, you’re better than that. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2021 - 8:05 AM ET #2

    I tend to agree I think the only way a game could actually be rigged is by the referees … but most flags are for good reason but sometimes calls are fishy 

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    I tend to agree I think the only way a game could actually be rigged is by the referees … but most flags are for good reason but sometimes calls are fishy 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2021 - 8:15 AM ET #3

    @vcuminh

     Amen

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     Amen

     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2021 - 9:17 AM ET #5

    Agree. 

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    Agree. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2021 - 10:02 AM ET #7

    @vcuminh

     Your serious right did u not see that final play to coicdently keep the game under u think every play is real amd game dude fkin kill urself a fkin monkey can see sports are dirty u believe in the tooth fairy also?

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     Your serious right did u not see that final play to coicdently keep the game under u think every play is real amd game dude fkin kill urself a fkin monkey can see sports are dirty u believe in the tooth fairy also?

     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2021 - 10:03 AM ET #8

    A bunch of crybabies. If you really want to focus on something that's fixed look at our elections now that's something that's fixed and rigged. The NFL is not and it's just a bunch of loser crybabies doing what they do best.... crying.

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    A bunch of crybabies. If you really want to focus on something that's fixed look at our elections now that's something that's fixed and rigged. The NFL is not and it's just a bunch of loser crybabies doing what they do best.... crying.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2021 - 10:42 AM ET #9

    Do yourself a favor, check the over/under on Thursdays for first half and second haft from week 1 to week 8.

    NFL has arranged every 4 weeks.

    For example: week 1 to week 4 over/under 1h/2h is 4/4

    week 5 to week 8 over/under 1h/2h is also 4/4

    It balance out almost every year?

    Explain to me, is it coincidence?

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    Do yourself a favor, check the over/under on Thursdays for first half and second haft from week 1 to week 8.

    NFL has arranged every 4 weeks.

    For example: week 1 to week 4 over/under 1h/2h is 4/4

    week 5 to week 8 over/under 1h/2h is also 4/4

    It balance out almost every year?

    Explain to me, is it coincidence?

     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2021 - 10:45 AM ET #10

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     So Arizona was more concerned with keeping the game under then winning and to keep it under they drove all the way down the field and purposely threw an interception? What a perfect way to appease both the entertainment script and the Vegas script! *sigh*

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     So Arizona was more concerned with keeping the game under then winning and to keep it under they drove all the way down the field and purposely threw an interception? What a perfect way to appease both the entertainment script and the Vegas script! *sigh*

     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2021 - 10:46 AM ET #11

     

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     What did the "NFL" do to guarantee the under on that last drive? Tell Arizona to drive down the field and throw an interception?

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     What did the "NFL" do to guarantee the under on that last drive? Tell Arizona to drive down the field and throw an interception?

     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2021 - 10:49 AM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by Win2017:

    Do yourself a favor, check the over/under on Thursdays for first half and second haft from week 1 to week 8. NFL has arranged every 4 weeks. For example: week 1 to week 4 over/under 1h/2h is 4/4 week 5 to week 8 over/under 1h/2h is also 4/4 It balance out almost every year? Explain to me, is it coincidence?

     

    Exactly. NFL told the Packers to get stopped inside the 5, 7 different plays and Kyler to drive 95 yards to throw an INT when his WR wasn't looking. Genius I tell ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2017:

    Do yourself a favor, check the over/under on Thursdays for first half and second haft from week 1 to week 8. NFL has arranged every 4 weeks. For example: week 1 to week 4 over/under 1h/2h is 4/4 week 5 to week 8 over/under 1h/2h is also 4/4 It balance out almost every year? Explain to me, is it coincidence?

     

    Exactly. NFL told the Packers to get stopped inside the 5, 7 different plays and Kyler to drive 95 yards to throw an INT when his WR wasn't looking. Genius I tell ya.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2021 - 10:54 AM ET #13

    sometimes you need an excuse to lose your 5 bucks and blame somebody else and these eeejits jump on the easiest bandwagon...instead of just saying got that one wrong and moving on...

     

    In the old days you just took your moosing and moved on...fekin millenials think everything is a conspiracy...

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    sometimes you need an excuse to lose your 5 bucks and blame somebody else and these eeejits jump on the easiest bandwagon...instead of just saying got that one wrong and moving on...

     

    In the old days you just took your moosing and moved on...fekin millenials think everything is a conspiracy...

     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2021 - 11:12 AM ET #14

    @Win2017

     Yes is true, odd are even NFL did admitted they are entertainment ONLY final scores is not decided by a players. You just need to be on the right side, if you gamble long enough you should know this, if not stop gambling.

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     Yes is true, odd are even NFL did admitted they are entertainment ONLY final scores is not decided by a players. You just need to be on the right side, if you gamble long enough you should know this, if not stop gambling.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2021 - 12:05 PM ET #15

    @BBGunzz

     They have the way to do it and I don't argue how they do it but I know

    for sure they have arrangements for it because it is repeated over 10 years. 

    Did you check the stat on Thursdays?

    Then I will put the money in your pocket if you check the stat 1h/2h for Sunday nights 

    and Monday (combined)

    Week 1 to week 4 over/ under (Sunday nights and Monday) is 8/8 (already happened)

    Week 5 to week 8 still have this coming Sunday night and Monday for you to figure it out.

    BOL if you believe it or not. No more argument from me.

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     They have the way to do it and I don't argue how they do it but I know

    for sure they have arrangements for it because it is repeated over 10 years. 

    Did you check the stat on Thursdays?

    Then I will put the money in your pocket if you check the stat 1h/2h for Sunday nights 

    and Monday (combined)

    Week 1 to week 4 over/ under (Sunday nights and Monday) is 8/8 (already happened)

    Week 5 to week 8 still have this coming Sunday night and Monday for you to figure it out.

    BOL if you believe it or not. No more argument from me.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2021 - 12:10 PM ET #16

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     That’s what I don’t understand with most betters. The nfl stated in court that they are entertainment not a sport and can manipulate outcomes when sued over spygate. It’s not like they try hiding it and we betters just have to know that when placing our bets or don’t bet as the nfl is all about making money not fair sporting events. 

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     That’s what I don’t understand with most betters. The nfl stated in court that they are entertainment not a sport and can manipulate outcomes when sued over spygate. It’s not like they try hiding it and we betters just have to know that when placing our bets or don’t bet as the nfl is all about making money not fair sporting events. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2021 - 12:12 PM ET #17

    It's extremely difficult to bring a group of 50+ players to fix a gm...STOP THE NONSENSE AND HANDICAP THOROUGHLY. LOSE SLEEPIF YOU HAVE TO.....STOP IT!

     

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    It's extremely difficult to bring a group of 50+ players to fix a gm...STOP THE NONSENSE AND HANDICAP THOROUGHLY. LOSE SLEEPIF YOU HAVE TO.....STOP IT!

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2021 - 12:37 PM ET #18

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     If Arizona was trying so hard to get an under they really made it hard on themselves by turning it over twice inside their own 20! haha

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     If Arizona was trying so hard to get an under they really made it hard on themselves by turning it over twice inside their own 20! haha

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by punta:

    It's extremely difficult to bring a group of 50+ players to fix a gm...STOP THE NONSENSE AND HANDICAP THOROUGHLY. LOSE SLEEPIF YOU HAVE TO.....STOP IT!
     

    It's not remotely difficult. They only make the big bucks because they do as told.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by punta:

    It's extremely difficult to bring a group of 50+ players to fix a gm...STOP THE NONSENSE AND HANDICAP THOROUGHLY. LOSE SLEEPIF YOU HAVE TO.....STOP IT!
     

    It's not remotely difficult. They only make the big bucks because they do as told.

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2021 - 1:24 PM ET #20

    I appreciate everybody’s feedback whether they totally disagree with what I’m saying or if they’re on my side. It’s a free speech open forum. 

    All I’m saying is that it’s so hard to get 60 players and coaches to get in on a fix together. Every week I come to this forum trying to get some really good insight from intelligent handicappers but it seems all I hear lately is that what a “perfect script”, this “game is rigged”, “ what’s “script for tonight”. This is sports, the real life ultimate adrenaline drama you can’t get anywhere else.

    There are times in the past where Dwight Howard or Shaq screwed me on the over because they cannot shoot free throws. In college basketball those kids shoot 60% from the stripe. One can look at the final score and come to this conclusion “holy crap I missed the over by one point, it’s rigged because he could have made that layup but chose to dribble it out” It’s not because the last was nit taken missed but in actuality it’s all those free throws that were missed throughout the game. 

    Take a step back and look at the game in its entirety and not just one drive or series to formulate the “script” hypothesis. I’m sure Kyle Murray wasn’t laying on the turf after that INT thinking, “man…thank god that under hit and no overtime at -600, that would not be good for the market.”

     

     

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    I appreciate everybody’s feedback whether they totally disagree with what I’m saying or if they’re on my side. It’s a free speech open forum. 

    All I’m saying is that it’s so hard to get 60 players and coaches to get in on a fix together. Every week I come to this forum trying to get some really good insight from intelligent handicappers but it seems all I hear lately is that what a “perfect script”, this “game is rigged”, “ what’s “script for tonight”. This is sports, the real life ultimate adrenaline drama you can’t get anywhere else.

    There are times in the past where Dwight Howard or Shaq screwed me on the over because they cannot shoot free throws. In college basketball those kids shoot 60% from the stripe. One can look at the final score and come to this conclusion “holy crap I missed the over by one point, it’s rigged because he could have made that layup but chose to dribble it out” It’s not because the last was nit taken missed but in actuality it’s all those free throws that were missed throughout the game. 

    Take a step back and look at the game in its entirety and not just one drive or series to formulate the “script” hypothesis. I’m sure Kyle Murray wasn’t laying on the turf after that INT thinking, “man…thank god that under hit and no overtime at -600, that would not be good for the market.”

     

     

     
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    By the way, it is far easy to formulate your own opinions to justify your losses but in actuality, you were just on the wrong side that day based on how the events turned out.

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    By the way, it is far easy to formulate your own opinions to justify your losses but in actuality, you were just on the wrong side that day based on how the events turned out.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2021 - 1:35 PM ET #22

    Take a step back and look at the game in its entirety and not just one drive or series to formulate the “script” hypothesis. I’m sure Kyle Murray wasn’t laying on the turf after that INT thinking, “man…thank god that under hit and no overtime at -600, that would not be good for the market.”

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    We have taken a step back. You're the one still buying what you're sold.

    Lol you have absolutely no clue what someone on your tv is thinking. You have no clue what he did all week. Lol at assuming a level of honesty while engaging in a  thing that was invented by mafia in the first place- gambling.

    Right in front of your face they screw you over and you still watch sports like A child.

    It's a entertainment business. 

     

     

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    Take a step back and look at the game in its entirety and not just one drive or series to formulate the “script” hypothesis. I’m sure Kyle Murray wasn’t laying on the turf after that INT thinking, “man…thank god that under hit and no overtime at -600, that would not be good for the market.”

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    We have taken a step back. You're the one still buying what you're sold.

    Lol you have absolutely no clue what someone on your tv is thinking. You have no clue what he did all week. Lol at assuming a level of honesty while engaging in a  thing that was invented by mafia in the first place- gambling.

    Right in front of your face they screw you over and you still watch sports like A child.

    It's a entertainment business. 

     

     

     
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    @vcuminh

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     I’m 63 and always loved the game but as time went on too many times shit is pretty shady. I quit watching and betting a few years back after too many bs plays. I came back with no believe that anything has changed and as I stated above the nfl said in court they’re in the entertainment business. So just use it as another tool when trying to make your bets is all. When TB played the Eagles in prime time a few weeks back I read prior to the game Tom Brady was 0-10 ats in his last prime time games???? Tom Brady 0 for anything raised a red flag. When they were up 21 midway in the third it looked like that streak was over. Low and behold a couple of interceptions later Toms 0-11 and I won three of my four bets as I had one -7. Maybe just a lucky guess but it sure makes you wonder as I read 78% of the money was on TB?????  Use what you can find but the nfl loves the gambling and money has ways of changing people. 

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     I’m 63 and always loved the game but as time went on too many times shit is pretty shady. I quit watching and betting a few years back after too many bs plays. I came back with no believe that anything has changed and as I stated above the nfl said in court they’re in the entertainment business. So just use it as another tool when trying to make your bets is all. When TB played the Eagles in prime time a few weeks back I read prior to the game Tom Brady was 0-10 ats in his last prime time games???? Tom Brady 0 for anything raised a red flag. When they were up 21 midway in the third it looked like that streak was over. Low and behold a couple of interceptions later Toms 0-11 and I won three of my four bets as I had one -7. Maybe just a lucky guess but it sure makes you wonder as I read 78% of the money was on TB?????  Use what you can find but the nfl loves the gambling and money has ways of changing people. 

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kpcinco:

    @vcuminh  I’m 63 and always loved the game but as time went on too many times shit is pretty shady. I quit watching and betting a few years back after too many bs plays. I came back with no believe that anything has changed and as I stated above the nfl said in court they’re in the entertainment business. So just use it as another tool when trying to make your bets is all. When TB played the Eagles in prime time a few weeks back I read prior to the game Tom Brady was 0-10 ats in his last prime time games???? Tom Brady 0 for anything raised a red flag. When they were up 21 midway in the third it looked like that streak was over. Low and behold a couple of interceptions later Toms 0-11 and I won three of my four bets as I had one -7. Maybe just a lucky guess but it sure makes you wonder as I read 78% of the money was on TB?????  Use what you can find but the nfl loves the gambling and money has ways of changing people.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kpcinco:

    @vcuminh  I’m 63 and always loved the game but as time went on too many times shit is pretty shady. I quit watching and betting a few years back after too many bs plays. I came back with no believe that anything has changed and as I stated above the nfl said in court they’re in the entertainment business. So just use it as another tool when trying to make your bets is all. When TB played the Eagles in prime time a few weeks back I read prior to the game Tom Brady was 0-10 ats in his last prime time games???? Tom Brady 0 for anything raised a red flag. When they were up 21 midway in the third it looked like that streak was over. Low and behold a couple of interceptions later Toms 0-11 and I won three of my four bets as I had one -7. Maybe just a lucky guess but it sure makes you wonder as I read 78% of the money was on TB?????  Use what you can find but the nfl loves the gambling and money has ways of changing people.
     

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