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    DID VEGAS WIN OR LOSE ON THIS SUPERBOWL

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    Europa
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2011 - 2:05 AM ET #51

    Quote Originally Posted by Wizard41:

    vegas got beat, read the article in the link above

    they wish they won 8-10 million

    not this year.

    reports are out of losses by vegas....perfect storm...over and gbay won they wanted neither

    i agree public loves fav and Over, so Vegas will get hit by them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizard41:

    vegas got beat, read the article in the link above

    they wish they won 8-10 million

    not this year.

    reports are out of losses by vegas....perfect storm...over and gbay won they wanted neither

    i agree public loves fav and Over, so Vegas will get hit by them.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2011 - 2:06 AM ET #52

    not this year

    turn your light off biotch

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    not this year

    turn your light off biotch

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2011 - 2:08 AM ET #53

    vegas lost

    they dont always win at the book

    they always win at tables

    the public hurt them with this one

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    vegas lost

    they dont always win at the book

    they always win at tables

    the public hurt them with this one

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2011 - 2:10 AM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by nepatriots_12:

    Vegas Always Wins...yea, maybe they lost a little on GB spread and a bit on the Over but they made a ton on Pit ML, props/parlays/teasers and JUICE. Vegas ALWAYS wins.


    This couldn't be further from the truth. In the long run, yes, they make a profit over the course of a year. I can tell you though from personal experience that there are some weekends that the book gets crushed. Think back about 5 years ago. There was a weekend where a larger number than usual of favorites covered. It was capped off by a Monday night game between the Jets and the Falcons. A customer of mine teased the game- both sides and both totals and won the 4 team tease. It took several weeks to come back from one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nepatriots_12:

    Vegas Always Wins...yea, maybe they lost a little on GB spread and a bit on the Over but they made a ton on Pit ML, props/parlays/teasers and JUICE. Vegas ALWAYS wins.


    This couldn't be further from the truth. In the long run, yes, they make a profit over the course of a year. I can tell you though from personal experience that there are some weekends that the book gets crushed. Think back about 5 years ago. There was a weekend where a larger number than usual of favorites covered. It was capped off by a Monday night game between the Jets and the Falcons. A customer of mine teased the game- both sides and both totals and won the 4 team tease. It took several weeks to come back from one.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2011 - 5:02 AM ET #55

    Thanks Oakster for doing your research and not talking out of your ass this is along the lines of what I posted earlier.......................

    The books were seeing heavy money on Green Bay and over the total of 45.

    "It was a worst-case scenario for us with the Packers and over," Las Vegas Hilton sports book director Jay Kornegay said. "Going into the game, we knew exactly what we didn't need, and unfortunately that scenario came true.

    "It's not that bad. We lost a little bit."

    MGM Resorts sports book director Jay Rood said parlays linking Green Bay and over the total did the most damage.

    "The combination of that two-team parlay was brutally rough," Rood said. "It was the worst Super Bowl that I've been a part of. That's an accurate statement."


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    Thanks Oakster for doing your research and not talking out of your ass this is along the lines of what I posted earlier.......................

    The books were seeing heavy money on Green Bay and over the total of 45.

    "It was a worst-case scenario for us with the Packers and over," Las Vegas Hilton sports book director Jay Kornegay said. "Going into the game, we knew exactly what we didn't need, and unfortunately that scenario came true.

    "It's not that bad. We lost a little bit."

    MGM Resorts sports book director Jay Rood said parlays linking Green Bay and over the total did the most damage.

    "The combination of that two-team parlay was brutally rough," Rood said. "It was the worst Super Bowl that I've been a part of. That's an accurate statement."


     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2011 - 5:04 AM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by oakster:

    This couldn't be further from the truth. In the long run, yes, they make a profit over the course of a year. I can tell you though from personal experience that there are some weekends that the book gets crushed. Think back about 5 years ago. There was a weekend where a larger number than usual of favorites covered. It was capped off by a Monday night game between the Jets and the Falcons. A customer of mine teased the game- both sides and both totals and won the 4 team tease. It took several weeks to come back from one.



       
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    Quote Originally Posted by oakster:

    This couldn't be further from the truth. In the long run, yes, they make a profit over the course of a year. I can tell you though from personal experience that there are some weekends that the book gets crushed. Think back about 5 years ago. There was a weekend where a larger number than usual of favorites covered. It was capped off by a Monday night game between the Jets and the Falcons. A customer of mine teased the game- both sides and both totals and won the 4 team tease. It took several weeks to come back from one.



       
     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2011 - 5:37 AM ET #57

    Why worry about how Vegas does?...lol  You should be more concerned about yourself...if you're a loser or a winner overall since you've been gambling...what happens in one day is really not that significant unless you're a dummy who went all in and lost everything in one day...lol

    In the long run Vegas does fine, it's really about all the loser gamblers who indirectly pay the winner gamblers. The gambling establishments have the juice and so they do fine in the long run.

    So say for example you're a gambler that overall since you've been gambling has lost 5 grand...well there's another gambler out there that overall has won 5 grand overall and so in a sense you indirectly paid that winner gambler the 5 grand you lost...the big establishments like Vegas don't lose in the long run and so the gamblers who are winners overall get their money indirectly from the losers..

     

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    Why worry about how Vegas does?...lol  You should be more concerned about yourself...if you're a loser or a winner overall since you've been gambling...what happens in one day is really not that significant unless you're a dummy who went all in and lost everything in one day...lol

    In the long run Vegas does fine, it's really about all the loser gamblers who indirectly pay the winner gamblers. The gambling establishments have the juice and so they do fine in the long run.

    So say for example you're a gambler that overall since you've been gambling has lost 5 grand...well there's another gambler out there that overall has won 5 grand overall and so in a sense you indirectly paid that winner gambler the 5 grand you lost...the big establishments like Vegas don't lose in the long run and so the gamblers who are winners overall get their money indirectly from the losers..

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2011 - 5:44 AM ET #58

    People betting on the dumb props helps Vegas survive.

    The Giants defeating the Patriots, made Vegas lose a lot of money. If it can happen once, it can happen again.

    The Cowboys and Steelers are Americas team. Vegas must have made profit off of the Steelers fans.

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    People betting on the dumb props helps Vegas survive.

    The Giants defeating the Patriots, made Vegas lose a lot of money. If it can happen once, it can happen again.

    The Cowboys and Steelers are Americas team. Vegas must have made profit off of the Steelers fans.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2011 - 5:50 AM ET #59

    By the way, as long as there are casino slot machine money going to these Sportsbooks in Vegas. They will not be out of business.

    The online Sportsbooks that does not have a casino slot machines are in trouble.

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    By the way, as long as there are casino slot machine money going to these Sportsbooks in Vegas. They will not be out of business.

    The online Sportsbooks that does not have a casino slot machines are in trouble.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2011 - 6:52 AM ET #60

    think most were on Green Bay
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2011 - 9:56 AM ET #61

    VEGAS ALWAYS WINS   ONE WAY OR THE OTHER

    YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE PRETTY DUMB TO THINK OTHERWISE!!!

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    VEGAS ALWAYS WINS   ONE WAY OR THE OTHER

    YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE PRETTY DUMB TO THINK OTHERWISE!!!

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2011 - 10:02 AM ET #62

    they had a rough day......

    source: LA Times

     

    https://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-super-bowl-vegas-20110207,0,2227070.story

     

     

     

     

     

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    they had a rough day......

    source: LA Times

     

    https://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-super-bowl-vegas-20110207,0,2227070.story

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    "The combination of the 'over' and the Packers' victory was lethal," Rood said. "It's the worst Super Bowl I've seen since being here in 1993. There was no getting around it. Not a great scenario."

    No one enjoyed the rollercoaster ride of events as much as Purcell, who shimmied on the Mirage sports book carpet and was doused in beer after realizing these winnings: a lucrative parlay of Packers to the over, a $200 future-book bet made before the season on the 14-to-1 Packers to win the Super Bowl, a $50 bet that Green Bay's Nick Collins would intercept a pass that paid $750, and another longshot gamble that Packers receiver Jordy Nelson would score the game's first touchdown
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    "The combination of the 'over' and the Packers' victory was lethal," Rood said. "It's the worst Super Bowl I've seen since being here in 1993. There was no getting around it. Not a great scenario."

    No one enjoyed the rollercoaster ride of events as much as Purcell, who shimmied on the Mirage sports book carpet and was doused in beer after realizing these winnings: a lucrative parlay of Packers to the over, a $200 future-book bet made before the season on the 14-to-1 Packers to win the Super Bowl, a $50 bet that Green Bay's Nick Collins would intercept a pass that paid $750, and another longshot gamble that Packers receiver Jordy Nelson would score the game's first touchdown
     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2011 - 10:22 AM ET #64

    Quote Originally Posted by dytide:

    they had a rough day......

    source: LA Times

     

    https://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-super-bowl-vegas-20110207,0,2227070.story

     

     

     

     

     

    Nevada gaming authorities are expected to release by Tuesday the final numbers...

    It will be interesting to see how much Vegas books "lost" yesterday, i just heard from CNBC said that big Steeler tickets had prevented Vegas from losing. i will trust more on Nevada State Board numbers than book managers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dytide:

    they had a rough day......

    source: LA Times

     

    https://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-super-bowl-vegas-20110207,0,2227070.story

     

     

     

     

     

    Nevada gaming authorities are expected to release by Tuesday the final numbers...

    It will be interesting to see how much Vegas books "lost" yesterday, i just heard from CNBC said that big Steeler tickets had prevented Vegas from losing. i will trust more on Nevada State Board numbers than book managers.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2011 - 11:23 AM ET #65

    they lost huge  big timers had bet 500,000  to 1 million on packers moved spreads and money like crazy

     

    - 3  points -115

     

    as the articles posted above  said

    so be happy that the bookies and vegas lost one

    i won on the overs i already had the steelers to win the bowl for a $1000  so i lost nothing

    i won $3050 when they won afc

    one thing i did find out was a free biorhythm chart and just knew that BIG ben was in bad shape

    low physical and emotional  it also showed that woodson was going to have a bad day and that rodgers also was going to be sub par  most of game

    not for nothing but Ben blew the game Packers had 0 turnovers and scored on all 3 to's they got from steelers

     

    so just by that statistic alone the Packers DID beat steelers

     

    i knew that they wanted packers to win Goodell hated BEN and Harrison all year long

     

    the refs were quick with the flags on steelers

    all year they got heavily flagged

    but even still that goof for steelers with that penalty pushed steelers back 15 yards

    BUT i still don't think Ben would have pulled it off !

    so one thing for sure we know same ol shit next year both the loser and winner will burn your cash

    neither team will be back in the bowl !

     

     

     

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    they lost huge  big timers had bet 500,000  to 1 million on packers moved spreads and money like crazy

     

    - 3  points -115

     

    as the articles posted above  said

    so be happy that the bookies and vegas lost one

    i won on the overs i already had the steelers to win the bowl for a $1000  so i lost nothing

    i won $3050 when they won afc

    one thing i did find out was a free biorhythm chart and just knew that BIG ben was in bad shape

    low physical and emotional  it also showed that woodson was going to have a bad day and that rodgers also was going to be sub par  most of game

    not for nothing but Ben blew the game Packers had 0 turnovers and scored on all 3 to's they got from steelers

     

    so just by that statistic alone the Packers DID beat steelers

     

    i knew that they wanted packers to win Goodell hated BEN and Harrison all year long

     

    the refs were quick with the flags on steelers

    all year they got heavily flagged

    but even still that goof for steelers with that penalty pushed steelers back 15 yards

    BUT i still don't think Ben would have pulled it off !

    so one thing for sure we know same ol shit next year both the loser and winner will burn your cash

    neither team will be back in the bowl !

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2011 - 11:33 AM ET #66

    Quote Originally Posted by DumbWalrus:

    LOL @ this thread.

    The FAVORITE wins and the OVER Hits and you ask if Vegas won??

    Public won huge $$$$$$$

    You gotta be kidding me to think the majority took GB.  GB might be the favorite but Pitt was most likely wagered on more.  Most of my betting friends took Pitt and most of the vocal members of Covers took Pitt.  That's enough of a rough estimate to say that most took Pitt.

    And yes, most of you guys on Covers are 'Sharps' so imagine what the 'public/squares' did when they expected Pitt to be the favored and when they saw Pitt getting points they salivated and lined up like sheep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DumbWalrus:

    LOL @ this thread.

    The FAVORITE wins and the OVER Hits and you ask if Vegas won??

    Public won huge $$$$$$$

    You gotta be kidding me to think the majority took GB.  GB might be the favorite but Pitt was most likely wagered on more.  Most of my betting friends took Pitt and most of the vocal members of Covers took Pitt.  That's enough of a rough estimate to say that most took Pitt.

    And yes, most of you guys on Covers are 'Sharps' so imagine what the 'public/squares' did when they expected Pitt to be the favored and when they saw Pitt getting points they salivated and lined up like sheep.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dytide:

    they had a rough day......

    source: LA Times

     

    https://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-super-bowl-vegas-20110207,0,2227070.story

     

     

     

     

     

    Do you really still believe all these articles?   What do you expect Vegas to say?  Imagine if Vegas say we always win, took you money so don't come back and play. 

    Even if you lost, the illusion after reading this article gives you the belief that the majority won and you will eventually beat the books since most people did.  That's is exactly a real gambler's mindset and that's what they want you to belive.

      Let me guess, they are also worried for your well-being just like cigarette companies so they promote 1-800-gambler?

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    they had a rough day......

    source: LA Times

     

    https://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-super-bowl-vegas-20110207,0,2227070.story

     

     

     

     

     

    Do you really still believe all these articles?   What do you expect Vegas to say?  Imagine if Vegas say we always win, took you money so don't come back and play. 

    Even if you lost, the illusion after reading this article gives you the belief that the majority won and you will eventually beat the books since most people did.  That's is exactly a real gambler's mindset and that's what they want you to belive.

      Let me guess, they are also worried for your well-being just like cigarette companies so they promote 1-800-gambler?

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2011 - 11:38 AM ET #68

    Locals in NY got killed. Nothing but GB and the Over action.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dytide:

    they had a rough day......

    source: LA Times

     

    https://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-super-bowl-vegas-20110207,0,2227070.story

     

     

     

     

     

    Vegas wins or losses don't account for the majority of bets being made either supposedly.  Where would you imagine all the pros or so-called pros reside?  Yes, they are in Vegas so if anything all these so called 'sharps' would have loaded up on the Pack.  That doesn't mean that the majority didn't take the Pitt gift line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dytide:

    they had a rough day......

    source: LA Times

     

    https://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-super-bowl-vegas-20110207,0,2227070.story

     

     

     

     

     

    Vegas wins or losses don't account for the majority of bets being made either supposedly.  Where would you imagine all the pros or so-called pros reside?  Yes, they are in Vegas so if anything all these so called 'sharps' would have loaded up on the Pack.  That doesn't mean that the majority didn't take the Pitt gift line.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2011 - 11:52 AM ET #70

    Umm my bookie took about 100% action on Pitt + points...

    He won 20k at least on the side... so I'd say Vegas did well, except on the OVER.

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    Umm my bookie took about 100% action on Pitt + points...

    He won 20k at least on the side... so I'd say Vegas did well, except on the OVER.

     
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    I should say, he made about 20k on Pitt bets... especially since NOBODY and I mean NOBODY bet GB minus the points.
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2011 - 11:55 AM ET #72

    there is one common bet that everyone I knew was on, THE OVER................
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    there is one common bet that everyone I knew was on, THE OVER................
     
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    They gave a bone to Joey Public Steelers +3 and everyone bit, hook ,line and sinker. You don't even need to watch the game ......just figure out where the house position is and follow suit. Way too easy

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    They gave a bone to Joey Public Steelers +3 and everyone bit, hook ,line and sinker. You don't even need to watch the game ......just figure out where the house position is and follow suit. Way too easy

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzwald:

    Umm my bookie took about 100% action on Pitt + points...

    He won 20k at least on the side... so I'd say Vegas did well, except on the OVER.

     

    Same with my local too...........They fucking cleaned up on Pittsburgh no questions about it!!!

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    Umm my bookie took about 100% action on Pitt + points...

    He won 20k at least on the side... so I'd say Vegas did well, except on the OVER.

     

    Same with my local too...........They fucking cleaned up on Pittsburgh no questions about it!!!

     
     
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    always win
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