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#1
Large number and SEA is not the same team. bad offensive line...cant run theball and the defense is not the swame.
lokoing for stafford to keep em close.
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Anyone else on Detroit Lions +8?
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#2
While I agree with all your points, I dont know if Detroit has what it takes to take down Seattle at home. Detroit hasn't been a great road team and Seattle has one of the best home field advantages. Yes, they just lost to AZ as a home favorite, but division rivals always bring a little extra and those 2 teams play each other incredibly tough. Also the lack of a strong run game for Detroit could mitigate the loss of Earl Thomas for Seattle.
At the moment, the only thing I personally like in this game is in a teaser. I actually just included Seattle in a 7 point teaser to get them to -1. Wish I got it in earlier today before -8 so it would have been just a Seattle win to cover. Oh well.
Lets hope Seattle wins and Detroit covers the number, for both our sakes lol
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#7
I absolutely like Detroit +8. I will even throw a small bit for Detroit ML to be honest. Here's why...
This will be Matt Stafford's 3rd playoff game-- 1st one was against New Orleans and 2nd one was against Dallas. He has never played a home playoff game in his career so this is nothing new... Give a man enough playoff games and eventually he will win one of them. I don't know how much his finger will affect his abilities but I have to imagine that it has at least gotten somewhat better since he injured it. I also like the fact that he owns the interceptions he's made recently rather than deflecting his mistakes onto his bad finger. It's the right mentality to have.
Seahawks then... they really are not the team that they were a few years ago. Lynch is gone, there are some big injuries on D, Wilson still doesn't know how to layup a ball to Graham who was supposed to be a game-changing acquisition (Yes, I'm aware he got there in 2015) etc. etc. I don't like their chemistry whatsoever and, beyond that, the Seahawks do a lot of charading and bickering with the media which is not that great for focus in my opinion.
Everyone is saying that the Lions pretty much stand no chance at Qwest Field and blah, blah, blah but that is all a bit silly to me. Yes, on paper, Seahawks do have a bit of an edge. When comparing individual games during the season though, I'd say that both teams had their on games and their off games. If Detroit shows up to play there is every reason to believe that they can compete and give the Seahawks a run for their money.
Yet another point in hand, Sure, Detroit had a dismal end to their season but guess what??? The Seahawks LOST THEIR PLAYOFF BYE in the FINAL TWO WEEKS. To me, that is very bad juju when a team has to play an extra game they never should have had to play in the first place. It would have been very hard pressed and unexpected to see the Lions earn the 2 spot in their final weeks so the only thing they really lost was a home field advantage for one game-- it still would have been very likely that they would have been in the wild card. Then compare who the Lions played to end their season--- @Giants, @Cowboys, vs. Packers. Seahawks played vs. Rams, vs. Cards, @49ers. Detroit had a very tough stretch of games at the end of the season, Seattle had a cakewalk.
Lastly, looking at the grander scheme of things, I figure that there is going to be at least one upset in the wild card games. I really don't see the Steelers losing to the Dolphins, Raiders and Texans are pretty much a toss-up anymore so I don't know how much of an upset it would be regardless of who wins that one... that leaves Seattle vs. Detroit and Green Bay vs. New York. It's my strong belief that one of those two match-ups that I listed last will end in upset.
That is lengthy reasoning as to why I like Detroit to pull off an epic upset or, at the very least, cover. Will they have to put together a really solid showing? Yes. Is it possible? Without a doubt.
This will be Matt Stafford's 3rd playoff game-- 1st one was against New Orleans and 2nd one was against Dallas. He has never played a home playoff game in his career so this is nothing new... Give a man enough playoff games and eventually he will win one of them. I don't know how much his finger will affect his abilities but I have to imagine that it has at least gotten somewhat better since he injured it. I also like the fact that he owns the interceptions he's made recently rather than deflecting his mistakes onto his bad finger. It's the right mentality to have.
Seahawks then... they really are not the team that they were a few years ago. Lynch is gone, there are some big injuries on D, Wilson still doesn't know how to layup a ball to Graham who was supposed to be a game-changing acquisition (Yes, I'm aware he got there in 2015) etc. etc. I don't like their chemistry whatsoever and, beyond that, the Seahawks do a lot of charading and bickering with the media which is not that great for focus in my opinion.
Everyone is saying that the Lions pretty much stand no chance at Qwest Field and blah, blah, blah but that is all a bit silly to me. Yes, on paper, Seahawks do have a bit of an edge. When comparing individual games during the season though, I'd say that both teams had their on games and their off games. If Detroit shows up to play there is every reason to believe that they can compete and give the Seahawks a run for their money.
Yet another point in hand, Sure, Detroit had a dismal end to their season but guess what??? The Seahawks LOST THEIR PLAYOFF BYE in the FINAL TWO WEEKS. To me, that is very bad juju when a team has to play an extra game they never should have had to play in the first place. It would have been very hard pressed and unexpected to see the Lions earn the 2 spot in their final weeks so the only thing they really lost was a home field advantage for one game-- it still would have been very likely that they would have been in the wild card. Then compare who the Lions played to end their season--- @Giants, @Cowboys, vs. Packers. Seahawks played vs. Rams, vs. Cards, @49ers. Detroit had a very tough stretch of games at the end of the season, Seattle had a cakewalk.
Lastly, looking at the grander scheme of things, I figure that there is going to be at least one upset in the wild card games. I really don't see the Steelers losing to the Dolphins, Raiders and Texans are pretty much a toss-up anymore so I don't know how much of an upset it would be regardless of who wins that one... that leaves Seattle vs. Detroit and Green Bay vs. New York. It's my strong belief that one of those two match-ups that I listed last will end in upset.
That is lengthy reasoning as to why I like Detroit to pull off an epic upset or, at the very least, cover. Will they have to put together a really solid showing? Yes. Is it possible? Without a doubt.
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#9
I think the biggest difference in the two teams is the coaching. Jim Caldwell is a bum conservative wimp when it comes to big games. he plays not to lose and gets burned 99% of the time. Pete Carrol is usually aggressive in big games and will keep his foot on the gas if he gets a lead. IF it should happen like that...Seattle will win by more then a touchdown. Caldwell will find a way to lose this game. Seattle ML looks the best here
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#13
Absol. det is a great play here.
If this was 2 years ago when the hawks were rolling and det would be the same as they are now the hawks would have been a 10-11 pt. fav. and there is no way the hawks are the same team as then and the p/s change is a fg or less from that team---NO WAY.
I know det is backing in and not playing great but on the other hand they are not playing as bad as some think. They played the Giants tough on the road and had a chance there if not for some deep in giant territory TOs---played a full cowboy squad even for a half on the road again then had a bad 2nd half and exactly the same vs the packers-good 1st bad 2nd so plenty of both but not all 1 so not horrible and this was vs any of 3 teams that could win the SB.
The hawks are quite similar--playing decent at times and bad in the same game finishing the season and their def. is not scaring anyone anymore and this is vs sig. worse teams then the lions have played.
Reading the press and the comment section from the fans in sea. they are quite down on the team and it will not take much for the loud starting out crowd to turn on them somewhat if things are not going their way early like they did vs arz 2 weeks ago. The fans are spoiled there and they do not like what they have seen lately and they will let them know that and the pressure is all on the hawks here big time and det. is coming in knowing nobody expects anything out of them now so they will be very loose and golden tate will have a ball i believe finding holes in the secondary were he KNOWS earl thomas would have been.
I expect a rel. low scoring boring game in weather that is expected to be not ideal and if sea. is up by 10 or 11 with 2-6 min. left mr. late game magic with 4 downs to play with will put 3 or 7 up vs a prevent to get under the #--worse case.
Sea 20
Det 17
Maybe in overtime
If this was 2 years ago when the hawks were rolling and det would be the same as they are now the hawks would have been a 10-11 pt. fav. and there is no way the hawks are the same team as then and the p/s change is a fg or less from that team---NO WAY.
I know det is backing in and not playing great but on the other hand they are not playing as bad as some think. They played the Giants tough on the road and had a chance there if not for some deep in giant territory TOs---played a full cowboy squad even for a half on the road again then had a bad 2nd half and exactly the same vs the packers-good 1st bad 2nd so plenty of both but not all 1 so not horrible and this was vs any of 3 teams that could win the SB.
The hawks are quite similar--playing decent at times and bad in the same game finishing the season and their def. is not scaring anyone anymore and this is vs sig. worse teams then the lions have played.
Reading the press and the comment section from the fans in sea. they are quite down on the team and it will not take much for the loud starting out crowd to turn on them somewhat if things are not going their way early like they did vs arz 2 weeks ago. The fans are spoiled there and they do not like what they have seen lately and they will let them know that and the pressure is all on the hawks here big time and det. is coming in knowing nobody expects anything out of them now so they will be very loose and golden tate will have a ball i believe finding holes in the secondary were he KNOWS earl thomas would have been.
I expect a rel. low scoring boring game in weather that is expected to be not ideal and if sea. is up by 10 or 11 with 2-6 min. left mr. late game magic with 4 downs to play with will put 3 or 7 up vs a prevent to get under the #--worse case.
Sea 20
Det 17
Maybe in overtime
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Posted:
#14
Quote Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:
Large number and SEA is not the same team. bad offensive line...cant run theball and the defense is not the swame. lokoing for stafford to keep em close.
Large number and SEA is not the same team. bad offensive line...cant run theball and the defense is not the swame. lokoing for stafford to keep em close.
Detroit is not the same with staffords finger hurt, last 3 games were against playoff teams, and no covers, Seattle kinda mailed it in recently, but they will be pumped now, gl on what you do, but I'm taking Seattle
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#15
Quote Originally Posted by Coverlkablanket:
Seattle wins big. Lots of Turnovers for Lions in Seattle. Seattle on the road is a whole different bird.
Seattle wins big. Lots of Turnovers for Lions in Seattle. Seattle on the road is a whole different bird.
Yeah, but lets see the Flacons and Matt Ryan Beat Russell Wilson at home at this Stage in Russells' Career.....I personally do not think it is gonna happen
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#17
I've been on and off the Seahawks for the last 5 seasons. SB vs Broncos was one of my all time biggest payouts. This is definitely not the same squad from a few yrs ago. Just as all great teams fade, when they win a SB, the superstars get paid and then you have to cut costs at other positions (OL). They just don't have the same fire and hunger as they did and the salary cap has thinned out their young talent. That being said, the Lions are not the team to take them down or even provide a serious challenge. That will happen down the line at ATL. If you are looking for a dog, I would lean to NYG this weekend.
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#20
^
1 dimension teams never bold well vs a seahawks team that is loaded with veterans on D.
Their O may not look dangerous but they are full of explosive play makers. After seeing how DET secondary tried to fair vs rodgers, I wouldn't put my money on them stopping Seattle's big play ability.
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#22
Quote Originally Posted by bigamoose:
possible str8 up winner lions
cherck the history of teams that REALLY lost to Tampa bay since the bucs been in this league 1973 every team that lost to them never ever won a superbowl.
I'm on the lions +8 points
possible str8 up winner lions
cherck the history of teams that REALLY lost to Tampa bay since the bucs been in this league 1973 every team that lost to them never ever won a superbowl.
I'm on the lions +8 points
Pretty sure Lions can't pull off a win in Seattle but like +8 made add a bit of a teaser.
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Posted:
#23
Quote Originally Posted by desertspade:
I absolutely like Detroit +8. I will even throw a small bit for Detroit ML to be honest. Here's why...
This will be Matt Stafford's 3rd playoff game-- 1st one was against New Orleans and 2nd one was against Dallas. He has never played a home playoff game in his career so this is nothing new... Give a man enough playoff games and eventually he will win one of them. I don't know how much his finger will affect his abilities but I have to imagine that it has at least gotten somewhat better since he injured it. I also like the fact that he owns the interceptions he's made recently rather than deflecting his mistakes onto his bad finger. It's the right mentality to have.
Seahawks then... they really are not the team that they were a few years ago. Lynch is gone, there are some big injuries on D, Wilson still doesn't know how to layup a ball to Graham who was supposed to be a game-changing acquisition (Yes, I'm aware he got there in 2015) etc. etc. I don't like their chemistry whatsoever and, beyond that, the Seahawks do a lot of charading and bickering with the media which is not that great for focus in my opinion.
Everyone is saying that the Lions pretty much stand no chance at Qwest Field and blah, blah, blah but that is all a bit silly to me. Yes, on paper, Seahawks do have a bit of an edge. When comparing individual games during the season though, I'd say that both teams had their on games and their off games. If Detroit shows up to play there is every reason to believe that they can compete and give the Seahawks a run for their money.
Yet another point in hand, Sure, Detroit had a dismal end to their season but guess what??? The Seahawks LOST THEIR PLAYOFF BYE in the FINAL TWO WEEKS. To me, that is very bad juju when a team has to play an extra game they never should have had to play in the first place. It would have been very hard pressed and unexpected to see the Lions earn the 2 spot in their final weeks so the only thing they really lost was a home field advantage for one game-- it still would have been very likely that they would have been in the wild card. Then compare who the Lions played to end their season--- @Giants, @Cowboys, vs. Packers. Seahawks played vs. Rams, vs. Cards, @49ers. Detroit had a very tough stretch of games at the end of the season, Seattle had a cakewalk.
Lastly, looking at the grander scheme of things, I figure that there is going to be at least one upset in the wild card games. I really don't see the Steelers losing to the Dolphins, Raiders and Texans are pretty much a toss-up anymore so I don't know how much of an upset it would be regardless of who wins that one... that leaves Seattle vs. Detroit and Green Bay vs. New York. It's my strong belief that one of those two match-ups that I listed last will end in upset.
That is lengthy reasoning as to why I like Detroit to pull off an epic upset or, at the very least, cover. Will they have to put together a really solid showing? Yes. Is it possible? Without a doubt.
I absolutely like Detroit +8. I will even throw a small bit for Detroit ML to be honest. Here's why...
This will be Matt Stafford's 3rd playoff game-- 1st one was against New Orleans and 2nd one was against Dallas. He has never played a home playoff game in his career so this is nothing new... Give a man enough playoff games and eventually he will win one of them. I don't know how much his finger will affect his abilities but I have to imagine that it has at least gotten somewhat better since he injured it. I also like the fact that he owns the interceptions he's made recently rather than deflecting his mistakes onto his bad finger. It's the right mentality to have.
Seahawks then... they really are not the team that they were a few years ago. Lynch is gone, there are some big injuries on D, Wilson still doesn't know how to layup a ball to Graham who was supposed to be a game-changing acquisition (Yes, I'm aware he got there in 2015) etc. etc. I don't like their chemistry whatsoever and, beyond that, the Seahawks do a lot of charading and bickering with the media which is not that great for focus in my opinion.
Everyone is saying that the Lions pretty much stand no chance at Qwest Field and blah, blah, blah but that is all a bit silly to me. Yes, on paper, Seahawks do have a bit of an edge. When comparing individual games during the season though, I'd say that both teams had their on games and their off games. If Detroit shows up to play there is every reason to believe that they can compete and give the Seahawks a run for their money.
Yet another point in hand, Sure, Detroit had a dismal end to their season but guess what??? The Seahawks LOST THEIR PLAYOFF BYE in the FINAL TWO WEEKS. To me, that is very bad juju when a team has to play an extra game they never should have had to play in the first place. It would have been very hard pressed and unexpected to see the Lions earn the 2 spot in their final weeks so the only thing they really lost was a home field advantage for one game-- it still would have been very likely that they would have been in the wild card. Then compare who the Lions played to end their season--- @Giants, @Cowboys, vs. Packers. Seahawks played vs. Rams, vs. Cards, @49ers. Detroit had a very tough stretch of games at the end of the season, Seattle had a cakewalk.
Lastly, looking at the grander scheme of things, I figure that there is going to be at least one upset in the wild card games. I really don't see the Steelers losing to the Dolphins, Raiders and Texans are pretty much a toss-up anymore so I don't know how much of an upset it would be regardless of who wins that one... that leaves Seattle vs. Detroit and Green Bay vs. New York. It's my strong belief that one of those two match-ups that I listed last will end in upset.
That is lengthy reasoning as to why I like Detroit to pull off an epic upset or, at the very least, cover. Will they have to put together a really solid showing? Yes. Is it possible? Without a doubt.
I like your thinking but the Lions will be in tough to pull out a victory but the 8 pts certainly help. I guess when you look at it their last win was at New Orleans not a great team but they won on the road by 20 at the Saints so you never know. I can't believe Staffords finger will be any better and that's a huge problem.
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#25
Quote Originally Posted by Spytheweb:
Lions last went to Seattle last season as a 10 point dog and lost 13-10.
I'll take the Lions +7.5.
Lions last went to Seattle last season as a 10 point dog and lost 13-10.
I'll take the Lions +7.5.
+ the lions should have won 17-10 if not for the worst blown ref. call of the year.
Det is about the same as they were at that time and Sea is much worse.
OT coming and 8 points is gravy.
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