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    49ers suspend their TV analyst for stating the obvious...or was it racist?

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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2019 - 9:11 PM ET #1

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28227397/49ers-suspend-radio-analyst-tim-ryan-lamar-jackson-comments

    I thought the same thing watching the game. It was hard to see the ball. Rain was a factor as well, but so was Lamar's Jersey and skin color against that ball. Is it really racist to say/think this? Or is this political correctness gone crazy?

    Here is exactly what Ryan said:

    "He's really good at that fake, Lamar Jackson, but when you consider his dark skin color with a dark football with a dark uniform, you could not see that thing," Ryan said on air. "I mean you literally could not see when he was in and out of the mesh point."
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    I thought the same thing watching the game. It was hard to see the ball. Rain was a factor as well, but so was Lamar's Jersey and skin color against that ball. Is it really racist to say/think this? Or is this political correctness gone crazy?

    Here is exactly what Ryan said:

    "He's really good at that fake, Lamar Jackson, but when you consider his dark skin color with a dark football with a dark uniform, you could not see that thing," Ryan said on air. "I mean you literally could not see when he was in and out of the mesh point."
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2019 - 9:15 PM ET #2

    Nothing to see here. We live in a politically correct world. He’s technically correct. Not a racial slur by any stretch. 
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    Nothing to see here. We live in a politically correct world. He’s technically correct. Not a racial slur by any stretch. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2019 - 9:38 PM ET #3

    The guy was just analyzing, that's his job. Sounds to me like he is really into football if he saw such an intricate part of the game and shared it with the viewers.

    I played QB in highschool(insert your Al Bundy jokes here) where we ran the wing-T. Nothing but fakes to multiple running backs on every play. So deception was a key focus and the coaches harped about it constantly. I know exactly what Ryan is talking about. 

    And with a wet leather football against a black jersey and Lamar's arms, of coarse it was hard to see. And he executes those belly fakes very well.

    You know what the sad thing is? If racism didn't exist, no one would think twice about what he said.

    Now, a potentially controversial and ethical question, but I'll ask it...If that analyst was an African American, would the Niners fire him?

    That's just how I see it, sports first. I mean I'm not black and don't know what it feels like being called dark skinned. But I've been called marshmallow a s s and it didn't bother me.
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    The guy was just analyzing, that's his job. Sounds to me like he is really into football if he saw such an intricate part of the game and shared it with the viewers.

    I played QB in highschool(insert your Al Bundy jokes here) where we ran the wing-T. Nothing but fakes to multiple running backs on every play. So deception was a key focus and the coaches harped about it constantly. I know exactly what Ryan is talking about. 

    And with a wet leather football against a black jersey and Lamar's arms, of coarse it was hard to see. And he executes those belly fakes very well.

    You know what the sad thing is? If racism didn't exist, no one would think twice about what he said.

    Now, a potentially controversial and ethical question, but I'll ask it...If that analyst was an African American, would the Niners fire him?

    That's just how I see it, sports first. I mean I'm not black and don't know what it feels like being called dark skinned. But I've been called marshmallow a s s and it didn't bother me.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2019 - 9:41 PM ET #4

    In this day and age we live in, yes that was "racist." 
    I put quotation marks because although he may of not meant it like that, people assume these days. 
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    In this day and age we live in, yes that was "racist." 
    I put quotation marks because although he may of not meant it like that, people assume these days. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2019 - 9:49 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by ActionMagnet:

    Nothing to see here. We live in a politically correct world. He’s technically correct. Not a racial slur by any stretch.

    yeah what a sad world. dude got in trouble by only stating facts...think about it from that view too..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ActionMagnet:

    Nothing to see here. We live in a politically correct world. He’s technically correct. Not a racial slur by any stretch.

    yeah what a sad world. dude got in trouble by only stating facts...think about it from that view too..

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2019 - 9:53 PM ET #6

    I call b*llsheet! I'm real tired of this political correctness movement.

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    I call b*llsheet! I'm real tired of this political correctness movement.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2019 - 9:55 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    The guy was just analyzing, that's his job. Sounds to me like he is really into football if he saw such an intricate part of the game and shared it with the viewers.

    I played QB in highschool(insert your Al Bundy jokes here) where we ran the wing-T. Nothing but fakes to multiple running backs on every play. So deception was a key focus and the coaches harped about it constantly. I know exactly what Ryan is talking about. 

    And with a wet leather football against a black jersey and Lamar's arms, of coarse it was hard to see. And he executes those belly fakes very well.

    You know what the sad thing is? If racism didn't exist, no one would think twice about what he said.

    Now, a potentially controversial and ethical question, but I'll ask it...If that analyst was an African American, would the Niners fire him?

    That's just how I see it, sports first. I mean I'm not black and don't know what it feels like being called dark skinned. But I've been called marshmallow a s s and it didn't bother me.


    Excellent point. I've heard Ryan on the radio. He is one of the most astute analysts out there. He goes into the nuances and subtleties of the game  (I've not hear one racist sounding comment from him) and this is what he gets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    The guy was just analyzing, that's his job. Sounds to me like he is really into football if he saw such an intricate part of the game and shared it with the viewers.

    I played QB in highschool(insert your Al Bundy jokes here) where we ran the wing-T. Nothing but fakes to multiple running backs on every play. So deception was a key focus and the coaches harped about it constantly. I know exactly what Ryan is talking about. 

    And with a wet leather football against a black jersey and Lamar's arms, of coarse it was hard to see. And he executes those belly fakes very well.

    You know what the sad thing is? If racism didn't exist, no one would think twice about what he said.

    Now, a potentially controversial and ethical question, but I'll ask it...If that analyst was an African American, would the Niners fire him?

    That's just how I see it, sports first. I mean I'm not black and don't know what it feels like being called dark skinned. But I've been called marshmallow a s s and it didn't bother me.


    Excellent point. I've heard Ryan on the radio. He is one of the most astute analysts out there. He goes into the nuances and subtleties of the game  (I've not hear one racist sounding comment from him) and this is what he gets.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2019 - 9:55 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by Phillip2002:

    yeah what a sad world. dude got in trouble by only stating facts...think about it from that view too..


    And I assume that he's not getting paid during his suspension. Who pays his bills now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillip2002:

    yeah what a sad world. dude got in trouble by only stating facts...think about it from that view too..


    And I assume that he's not getting paid during his suspension. Who pays his bills now?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2019 - 9:56 PM ET #9

    This whole country filled with racism and haters specially on covers .
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    This whole country filled with racism and haters specially on covers .
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2019 - 10:00 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by Egoodie:

    This whole country filled with racism and haters specially on covers .

     

    You another soyboy, snowflake? Suck it up, it's a rough world!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egoodie:

    This whole country filled with racism and haters specially on covers .

     

    You another soyboy, snowflake? Suck it up, it's a rough world!

     
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    You another soyboy, snowflake? Suck it up, it's a rough world!

    White people are only good at hotdogs and keyboard warriors.  
    Just stating facts 
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    You another soyboy, snowflake? Suck it up, it's a rough world!

    White people are only good at hotdogs and keyboard warriors.  
    Just stating facts 
     
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    English is my 2nd language . When you go visit other countries they treat people with respect in this country is nothing but racist. Been in army for 8 years 11 bravo 
    Infantry when visiting other countries didnt see any racicicm like United states.  Just facts 
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    English is my 2nd language . When you go visit other countries they treat people with respect in this country is nothing but racist. Been in army for 8 years 11 bravo 
    Infantry when visiting other countries didnt see any racicicm like United states.  Just facts 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2019 - 10:31 PM ET #14

    It's not about rough world been through war so dont hide behind your keyboard and talk tough usually those are the biggest pussies 
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    It's not about rough world been through war so dont hide behind your keyboard and talk tough usually those are the biggest pussies 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Egoodie:

    It's not about rough world been through war so dont hide behind your keyboard and talk tough usually those are the biggest pussies 


    This is how innocent people get persecuted . Just because there are racists in this country does not mean this man was being racist. He was stating facts, as he saw it. I am married to a black woman and have biracial kids. I have seen racism in action against them. I don't see any racism here. Just overreaction by a lot of people who are too scared to stand up for what is right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Egoodie:

    It's not about rough world been through war so dont hide behind your keyboard and talk tough usually those are the biggest pussies 


    This is how innocent people get persecuted . Just because there are racists in this country does not mean this man was being racist. He was stating facts, as he saw it. I am married to a black woman and have biracial kids. I have seen racism in action against them. I don't see any racism here. Just overreaction by a lot of people who are too scared to stand up for what is right.
     
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    BB, agree Dont think he was being racist but in the country we live in racism still exists , Its a judgment call was responding to jpot and about how hes tired of political correctness movement.  Half these people that are racist never visited other countries.  
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    BB, agree Dont think he was being racist but in the country we live in racism still exists , Its a judgment call was responding to jpot and about how hes tired of political correctness movement.  Half these people that are racist never visited other countries.  
     
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    49ers should suspend Kyle Shanahan for calling a pass play on 4th and 1 when the whole world could see Mostert at least getting 4 yards a run 
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    49ers should suspend Kyle Shanahan for calling a pass play on 4th and 1 when the whole world could see Mostert at least getting 4 yards a run 
     
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    Fyi... I'm currently  recovering from PTSD didn't mean to offend any one of any race goodluck 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Egoodie:

    BB, agree Dont think he was being racist but in the country we live in racism still exists , Its a judgment call was responding to jpot and about how hes tired of political correctness movement.  Half these people that are racist never visited other countries.  


    I know what you're saying. I'm an immigrant myself. But in other countries the racism is often hidden under a veneer of civility. France, for example. Even if your family has been there for 4 generations, they'll still look at you as an outsider. You'll never be one of them. In America, the racism, when it surfaces, it is obvious. I actually prefer that, since I know exactly where people stand. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Egoodie:

    BB, agree Dont think he was being racist but in the country we live in racism still exists , Its a judgment call was responding to jpot and about how hes tired of political correctness movement.  Half these people that are racist never visited other countries.  


    I know what you're saying. I'm an immigrant myself. But in other countries the racism is often hidden under a veneer of civility. France, for example. Even if your family has been there for 4 generations, they'll still look at you as an outsider. You'll never be one of them. In America, the racism, when it surfaces, it is obvious. I actually prefer that, since I know exactly where people stand. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2019 - 1:43 AM ET #22

    That’s the generation we’re in.. “politically correct”and click bait also possibly ruining people’s lives over “poor choice of words”.. that’s tagging someone with the racial card for saying the word - dark

    If this is now..what does the future hold for us with all these sensitive people in power-and more to come with this generation..that seemed extreme to me..smh
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    That’s the generation we’re in.. “politically correct”and click bait also possibly ruining people’s lives over “poor choice of words”.. that’s tagging someone with the racial card for saying the word - dark

    If this is now..what does the future hold for us with all these sensitive people in power-and more to come with this generation..that seemed extreme to me..smh
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2019 - 1:45 AM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by one_bad_toy:

    400 years and counting


    What does this mean?
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    400 years and counting


    What does this mean?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2019 - 1:49 AM ET #24

    Exactly Chomp.....I was thinking about all those Great Comedians back in the day......can joke about whoever and whatever with no backlash........and now it's.... who do you offend......PC Culture it is....for the worst....such a sensitive period we live in.....
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    Exactly Chomp.....I was thinking about all those Great Comedians back in the day......can joke about whoever and whatever with no backlash........and now it's.... who do you offend......PC Culture it is....for the worst....such a sensitive period we live in.....
    Go Niners on Sunday....
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by lmb4321:

    Exactly Chomp.....I was thinking about all those Great Comedians back in the day......can joke about whoever and whatever with no backlash........and now it's.... who do you offend......PC Culture it is....for the worst....such a sensitive period we live in.....
    Go Niners on Sunday....

    Comedians have it the worst. They can't say sh*t anymore!!! 

    One of the best roasts I've seen was Flava Flav. People of all races who like each other, laugh at each other. Some one said that he looks like a skeleton wrapped in electrical tape, snoop dog nearly pissed himself.

    The uptight PC crowd does not know how to laugh. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by lmb4321:

    Exactly Chomp.....I was thinking about all those Great Comedians back in the day......can joke about whoever and whatever with no backlash........and now it's.... who do you offend......PC Culture it is....for the worst....such a sensitive period we live in.....
    Go Niners on Sunday....

    Comedians have it the worst. They can't say sh*t anymore!!! 

    One of the best roasts I've seen was Flava Flav. People of all races who like each other, laugh at each other. Some one said that he looks like a skeleton wrapped in electrical tape, snoop dog nearly pissed himself.

    The uptight PC crowd does not know how to laugh. 
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