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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2013 - 9:35 PM ET #1

    This has worked out just the way I wished. The Packers defense is suspect. The defensive line is below average. Not good playing against a team that will pound it. Lacy will get hit hard and often. That Bears defense doesn't even compare to what they will face Sunday. They are poised to make a long run. Defense will travel. I have been calling these Niner games pretty accurately. I think they make it to the Superbowl. This bunch prides on that by any means necessary motto. Lets face it Kaep puts up BIG #'s against the Pack. I will be putting $5500 of my hard won money on them.. I want to try to catch the best line possible. Go 49ers!!

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    This has worked out just the way I wished. The Packers defense is suspect. The defensive line is below average. Not good playing against a team that will pound it. Lacy will get hit hard and often. That Bears defense doesn't even compare to what they will face Sunday. They are poised to make a long run. Defense will travel. I have been calling these Niner games pretty accurately. I think they make it to the Superbowl. This bunch prides on that by any means necessary motto. Lets face it Kaep puts up BIG #'s against the Pack. I will be putting $5500 of my hard won money on them.. I want to try to catch the best line possible. Go 49ers!!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2013 - 9:39 PM ET #2

    My question for everyone is....Which direction will this line move? Comments will help all.
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    My question for everyone is....Which direction will this line move? Comments will help all.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2013 - 9:51 PM ET #3

    Im pretty sure the PUBLIC IS ON SF... If the public naturally moves this line.. Its should easily go to Gb+3... The public always has more money as a whole... But it doesnt mean the public will move lines... Sharps can move lines with little to no money... 
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    Im pretty sure the PUBLIC IS ON SF... If the public naturally moves this line.. Its should easily go to Gb+3... The public always has more money as a whole... But it doesnt mean the public will move lines... Sharps can move lines with little to no money... 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoldingXYZ:

    Im pretty sure the PUBLIC IS ON SF... If the public naturally moves this line.. Its should easily go to Gb+3... The public always has more money as a whole... But it doesnt mean the public will move lines... Sharps can move lines with little to no money... 

     

    You have no clue what the meaning of "public/sharp" is....and you prove it every week

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoldingXYZ:

    Im pretty sure the PUBLIC IS ON SF... If the public naturally moves this line.. Its should easily go to Gb+3... The public always has more money as a whole... But it doesnt mean the public will move lines... Sharps can move lines with little to no money... 

     

    You have no clue what the meaning of "public/sharp" is....and you prove it every week

     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2013 - 9:58 PM ET #5

    In response to the trolls,, i will have a LONG write up and it will be titled SHARPS VS JOE PUB.. SIMPLY BECAUSE TROLLS DESERVE IT...


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    In response to the trolls,, i will have a LONG write up and it will be titled SHARPS VS JOE PUB.. SIMPLY BECAUSE TROLLS DESERVE IT...


     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2013 - 10:02 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by HoldingXYZ:

    In response to the trolls,, i will have a LONG write up and it will be titled SHARPS VS JOE PUB.. SIMPLY BECAUSE TROLLS DESERVE IT...



    Will you please keep all of your muddled ideas confined to one retarded thread? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoldingXYZ:

    In response to the trolls,, i will have a LONG write up and it will be titled SHARPS VS JOE PUB.. SIMPLY BECAUSE TROLLS DESERVE IT...



    Will you please keep all of your muddled ideas confined to one retarded thread? 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2013 - 10:04 PM ET #7

    @XYZ So you think the public will be on the Niners? I thought the same last week and everyone pounded the Cardinals. I think the Packers weather perception mixed with the Rodgers rod riders may go push pts to GB.
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    @XYZ So you think the public will be on the Niners? I thought the same last week and everyone pounded the Cardinals. I think the Packers weather perception mixed with the Rodgers rod riders may go push pts to GB.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2013 - 10:16 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by HoldingXYZ:

    In response to the trolls,, i will have a LONG write up and it will be titled SHARPS VS JOE PUB.. SIMPLY BECAUSE TROLLS DESERVE IT...



    You are the KING OF TROLLS PAL !!!! bar none!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoldingXYZ:

    In response to the trolls,, i will have a LONG write up and it will be titled SHARPS VS JOE PUB.. SIMPLY BECAUSE TROLLS DESERVE IT...



    You are the KING OF TROLLS PAL !!!! bar none!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2013 - 12:13 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by insiders-edge:

    @XYZ So you think the public will be on the Niners? I thought the same last week and everyone pounded the Cardinals. I think the Packers weather perception mixed with the Rodgers rod riders may go push pts to GB.

    The reason why i think where the action is ,, is very simple...
    All of the outcomes in week16 were upsets and public took a hit,, following week17 all of the teams that didnt cover the spread last week all covered in week17,,,its flipflopped.. Not only that,, i have data on a spread sheet for any given week... This year,, divisional match ups took turns literally to cover the spread,, here's a few examples

    NE-MIA
    MIA-NE

    CAR-ATL
    ATL-CAR

    GB-DET
    DET-GB

    CHI-GB
    GB-CHI

    ATL-NO
    NO-ATL

    MIA-JET
    JET-MIA

    I mean i can keep going on and on... Teams have a very consistent pattern,, especially when there's heavy action... Heavy action teams are exposed on certain matchups relative to the spreads...

    Shouldnt the teams that beat another team do relatively the same over time? This isnt the case... The data just doesnt come out the way it should,, Its also relative to the history and image of each team,, more winning history usually means more action,, bigger city means more action... People in Greenbay dont gamble... Look what they did along the years,, Now look at the Saints,,, 
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    @XYZ So you think the public will be on the Niners? I thought the same last week and everyone pounded the Cardinals. I think the Packers weather perception mixed with the Rodgers rod riders may go push pts to GB.

    The reason why i think where the action is ,, is very simple...
    All of the outcomes in week16 were upsets and public took a hit,, following week17 all of the teams that didnt cover the spread last week all covered in week17,,,its flipflopped.. Not only that,, i have data on a spread sheet for any given week... This year,, divisional match ups took turns literally to cover the spread,, here's a few examples

    NE-MIA
    MIA-NE

    CAR-ATL
    ATL-CAR

    GB-DET
    DET-GB

    CHI-GB
    GB-CHI

    ATL-NO
    NO-ATL

    MIA-JET
    JET-MIA

    I mean i can keep going on and on... Teams have a very consistent pattern,, especially when there's heavy action... Heavy action teams are exposed on certain matchups relative to the spreads...

    Shouldnt the teams that beat another team do relatively the same over time? This isnt the case... The data just doesnt come out the way it should,, Its also relative to the history and image of each team,, more winning history usually means more action,, bigger city means more action... People in Greenbay dont gamble... Look what they did along the years,, Now look at the Saints,,, 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2013 - 12:24 AM ET #10

    Here's another flip flop... Majority of teams that are in must win situations lost,, meanwhile majority of teams that didnt need to win,, all won,,, i mean look at SD,BAL,PITT,, SD being the weakest  team overall and statistically shouldnt make it... This chain of reaction i tellya,, Greenbay did it back when they won the SB,, If you go back and look at teams that inched their way into the SB,, and also in a ten year period,, there has only been 1 Superbowl where the two best teams "record wise"  went head on in the SB,, that would be when the saints played the colts...
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    Here's another flip flop... Majority of teams that are in must win situations lost,, meanwhile majority of teams that didnt need to win,, all won,,, i mean look at SD,BAL,PITT,, SD being the weakest  team overall and statistically shouldnt make it... This chain of reaction i tellya,, Greenbay did it back when they won the SB,, If you go back and look at teams that inched their way into the SB,, and also in a ten year period,, there has only been 1 Superbowl where the two best teams "record wise"  went head on in the SB,, that would be when the saints played the colts...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2013 - 12:32 AM ET #11

    I disagree I don't think public is sold on Niners...Rodgers back. In Green Bay getting points...I think the line stays the same. And I am on the Niners 
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    I disagree I don't think public is sold on Niners...Rodgers back. In Green Bay getting points...I think the line stays the same. And I am on the Niners 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2013 - 12:35 AM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by dustmiester:

    I disagree I don't think public is sold on Niners...Rodgers back. In Green Bay getting points...I think the line stays the same. And I am on the Niners 

    The way i look at it is this...


    GB MONEY VS SF MONEY...

    SF made it last year... If they get passed the first round i dont see them getting passed the second... That's not how the league works... Underdog stories are powerful.... Its what people love... 

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    Quote Originally Posted by dustmiester:

    I disagree I don't think public is sold on Niners...Rodgers back. In Green Bay getting points...I think the line stays the same. And I am on the Niners 

    The way i look at it is this...


    GB MONEY VS SF MONEY...

    SF made it last year... If they get passed the first round i dont see them getting passed the second... That's not how the league works... Underdog stories are powerful.... Its what people love... 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2013 - 12:38 AM ET #13

    Look at what a backup quarterback and a good kicker did to The patriots....

    Now look at what ROGERS did in Greenbay... They are the brightest stars... They both are from small cities... Most people have never step foot in these places,, that's what i see in common... 
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    Look at what a backup quarterback and a good kicker did to The patriots....

    Now look at what ROGERS did in Greenbay... They are the brightest stars... They both are from small cities... Most people have never step foot in these places,, that's what i see in common... 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2013 - 12:43 AM ET #14

    Seattle is another team that came in last year and just Crushed teams... They come out of no where... This year CINCINATTI is crushing teams... 

    And you know the story with Manning,, that crap is so scripted its unreal... Not that i dont like the guy... 

    SF is crushing teams late this year and they will fail getting in.. Simply because teams do not make it back to back in the SB... When everyone already owns a SF JERSEY,, they need to start selling more jerseys.. I mean look a Farve,, he got traded everywhere to sell jerseys imo,, now you have to buy a Rogers jersey... LOL
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    Seattle is another team that came in last year and just Crushed teams... They come out of no where... This year CINCINATTI is crushing teams... 

    And you know the story with Manning,, that crap is so scripted its unreal... Not that i dont like the guy... 

    SF is crushing teams late this year and they will fail getting in.. Simply because teams do not make it back to back in the SB... When everyone already owns a SF JERSEY,, they need to start selling more jerseys.. I mean look a Farve,, he got traded everywhere to sell jerseys imo,, now you have to buy a Rogers jersey... LOL
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2013 - 12:47 AM ET #15

    Players are like stock in the market... And selling jerseys is the name of the game... thats why the QB is the most protected Asset... 
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    Players are like stock in the market... And selling jerseys is the name of the game... thats why the QB is the most protected Asset... 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2013 - 2:46 AM ET #16

    HoldingXYZ is COOKED
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2013 - 3:05 AM ET #17

    Im not cooked.. But i love cooking books,,  i'll cook yours as well.. 
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    Im not cooked.. But i love cooking books,,  i'll cook yours as well.. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2013 - 3:14 AM ET #18

    Nice write up.  We have the same thoughts exactly!  Glad to see I'm not the only one.  You, my friend, will be #winning!
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    Nice write up.  We have the same thoughts exactly!  Glad to see I'm not the only one.  You, my friend, will be #winning!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2013 - 5:49 AM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by HoldingXYZ:




    I mean i can keep going on and on... 


    Please don't!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoldingXYZ:




    I mean i can keep going on and on... 


    Please don't!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2013 - 7:54 AM ET #21

    71% on the 9ers, the highest of any game.

    And considering the public won both 70% last week, and they come into the playoffs winning 4 straight weeks with week 17 the best record, I highly, highly doubt the public wins this week.

    Has nothing to do with games being fixed and alot to do with simply bad, bad capping of games but the masses.

    9ers are not the same team they were last year, their game has fallen way off, not a good indication for a defending conference champ.

    After reading many threads here on the site, seems most are living in last year, 9ers not the same team.

    The team winning the most  consecutive games coming in  to playoffs is historically a bad ATS bet, I've been posting this for 4 years now to the tune of 1-3 ATS and 1-3 SU, in their opening playoff game and 1-4 ATS and SU overall,  including huge favorites losing SU, like Denver last year.

    Yet year after year we see the same love for the hottest team come playoff time and we see it again this year, and that folks is piss-poor capping.

     

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    71% on the 9ers, the highest of any game.

    And considering the public won both 70% last week, and they come into the playoffs winning 4 straight weeks with week 17 the best record, I highly, highly doubt the public wins this week.

    Has nothing to do with games being fixed and alot to do with simply bad, bad capping of games but the masses.

    9ers are not the same team they were last year, their game has fallen way off, not a good indication for a defending conference champ.

    After reading many threads here on the site, seems most are living in last year, 9ers not the same team.

    The team winning the most  consecutive games coming in  to playoffs is historically a bad ATS bet, I've been posting this for 4 years now to the tune of 1-3 ATS and 1-3 SU, in their opening playoff game and 1-4 ATS and SU overall,  including huge favorites losing SU, like Denver last year.

    Yet year after year we see the same love for the hottest team come playoff time and we see it again this year, and that folks is piss-poor capping.

     

     
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    The weather could factor if there is snow. Defenses always play bad in snow..they can't back up on pass defense have a hard time tackling etc. It may snow in philly again which favors philly and the ground game. Watch the weather..if it snows take the over.
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    As far as GB poor defense, Pack with Rodgers in the line-up have outgained opp by 55.5 ruhing yards per game.

    9ers by 41.6

    Even with GB poor defense they create a bigger advantage.

    Rodgers ave per pass att, 7.78

    Kap 6.52

    Ave per pass att differential..........................Pack 1.47

    9ers 1.23

    Even with the Packs poor pass defense they create a bigger advantge.

    And remember last year the masses were on GB over 9ers, and I have already seen write-ups by guys on GB last year that are now on 9ers this year.

    The tendency for many is they fell good about backing teams that were successful last year, even if they lose they still fell good about the bet even though there is little evidence to back such things up.

    That's why they backed GB last year because 9ers with Kap had no prior success and Rodgers with GB has won a SB.

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    As far as GB poor defense, Pack with Rodgers in the line-up have outgained opp by 55.5 ruhing yards per game.

    9ers by 41.6

    Even with GB poor defense they create a bigger advantage.

    Rodgers ave per pass att, 7.78

    Kap 6.52

    Ave per pass att differential..........................Pack 1.47

    9ers 1.23

    Even with the Packs poor pass defense they create a bigger advantge.

    And remember last year the masses were on GB over 9ers, and I have already seen write-ups by guys on GB last year that are now on 9ers this year.

    The tendency for many is they fell good about backing teams that were successful last year, even if they lose they still fell good about the bet even though there is little evidence to back such things up.

    That's why they backed GB last year because 9ers with Kap had no prior success and Rodgers with GB has won a SB.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2013 - 8:10 AM ET #24

    I add the snow would neutralize the SF defense as well. Rodgers could have a field day.
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    Weather will play a factor in this game.... Going to be single digits or below with wind chill....

    100000 question is Kap in cold weather.... Anyone got any stats on that?!?
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    Weather will play a factor in this game.... Going to be single digits or below with wind chill....

    100000 question is Kap in cold weather.... Anyone got any stats on that?!?
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