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    Vegas, I am your pimp and you are my prostitute. All you do is pay me! KNICKS @ HEAT WRITE-UP!

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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2014 - 11:50 AM ET #201

    Quote Originally Posted by RodWoman:

      If he really is injured then why is he playing? He's a stiff when he's healthy.  Then you got Smith!  22 attempts!  Disarray!  They are so bad.

    He definitely is injured and they have no replacement.

    Still they could gut it out by inserting Hardaway or platooning Shump (awful offensively) but Tim is light years from Melo and every game the Knicks fall deeper into the abyss.

    I would rest Melo just to give him extra time but I understand why they can't.

    He really is killing the team. But the Knicks have such a lack of depth, Woodson has little choice. Still he is basically responsible for shooting the team out of the Wizards and heat game (along with JR in that one) in addition to other miscues.

    Since the next game is Friday, there is no reason to sit him. If almost a week is not enough time, nothing is. But he comes out and is 2/7 at the half, bench his a** and let Hardaway to earn his paycheck ASAP. It's a do or die. You can't ride Melo any and every game...

    We'll see as the week progresses but I don't think a week is nearly enough time for this to heal. This is an injury that takes extensive rehab and months to get to a place where you are 100% if you don't get surgery, not a week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RodWoman:

      If he really is injured then why is he playing? He's a stiff when he's healthy.  Then you got Smith!  22 attempts!  Disarray!  They are so bad.

    He definitely is injured and they have no replacement.

    Still they could gut it out by inserting Hardaway or platooning Shump (awful offensively) but Tim is light years from Melo and every game the Knicks fall deeper into the abyss.

    I would rest Melo just to give him extra time but I understand why they can't.

    He really is killing the team. But the Knicks have such a lack of depth, Woodson has little choice. Still he is basically responsible for shooting the team out of the Wizards and heat game (along with JR in that one) in addition to other miscues.

    Since the next game is Friday, there is no reason to sit him. If almost a week is not enough time, nothing is. But he comes out and is 2/7 at the half, bench his a** and let Hardaway to earn his paycheck ASAP. It's a do or die. You can't ride Melo any and every game...

    We'll see as the week progresses but I don't think a week is nearly enough time for this to heal. This is an injury that takes extensive rehab and months to get to a place where you are 100% if you don't get surgery, not a week.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2014 - 1:50 AM ET #202

    Quote Originally Posted by stakz:

    LOL i dont even read his threads just assume he is on knicks cuz of the homer he is


    like i said post ticket history of nba season he is a fraud and loser

    must fade!!!!
    You're a jackarse
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    Quote Originally Posted by stakz:

    LOL i dont even read his threads just assume he is on knicks cuz of the homer he is


    like i said post ticket history of nba season he is a fraud and loser

    must fade!!!!
    You're a jackarse
     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2014 - 3:12 AM ET #203

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    @bakat
    @lc
    @valour
    @vin

    @lmb I can't play the lakers rockets game. The whole laker team has been shut down (although I know why you are asking - get thrashed by the clippers and win the next big one like setup in the OKC game? Good memory).

    Yesterday Bazemore went down and he gets an MRI today so likely won't play.

    Nick young is playing through an injury and can get shut down at any moment.

    Gasol
    Nash
    Kaman
    Farmar
    All done for the season.

    I couldn't hang a line on that game if I were Vegas. 18-20? Is that enough? Not if the lakers have only 7 healthy guys and Jordan hill as their starting center (and no backup center!). And he's really a forward "Kinda movin' around underneath" so I'm using the center designation liberally. Vegas will probably go 17/18. 16 at a bare minimum on a b2b.

    I'm looking at the  records and the lakers aren't in as great a shape for the draft as you think. They have the sixth worst record. If a team leapfrog a them they get the 7th pick. If two teams do, they get the eighth pick. This is assuming their lottery balls don't come up.

    Those aren't rock solid picks for what will be the worst season in their history.

    The ONLY thing they have going for them is that if they lose one more, they set the all-time laker record for losses in a season. That is motivation to win something before year's end.

    Utah can still tie them or pass them as they will likely not lose out. Lakers should lose out if they are smart and owner/coach/GM are the rying to with this player shutdown but players don't tank, they play it right to the end. 

    Lakers will likely win just one more. Which one? We'll have to see.

    Better games are the last home game against the Grizz on 4-13 or the last game of the season against the spurs if the spurs rest everyone (and it is still very iffy even if that happens).


    The NCAA: Beginnerboy put the second largest bet of the year on kentucky. I'll roll with his pick.


    Sorry, Scal, it was a very tough game to watch and have money on. As I wrote in the College Basketball Forum, Kentucky didn't start playing till the 5:41 mark, down 15-30. From there, they outplay Uconn for the next 26 minutes and still lost, never being able to take that elusive lead (when they had multiple chances) and missed the free throws. Basically, everything that could go wrong went wrong but this team was so talented that they hung around until the end (most teams would have just caved). They are men among boys (in terms of size, strength and even speed, although it took them 15 minutes to find that extra gear) but, and this is a big but that I overlooked, their mental faculties are still developing. In every game they played, it took these guys an entire half to figure out that they were the better team and could have their way with their opponents. You'd think that by the time they got to the title game they would have the confidence (and experience, from the previous games) needed to steamroll their opponent. But no, they started off slow again and this time, paid the price (and made us pay it with them). How unfortunate. I do have an NBA game, however, which will help us get back on track. I'm looking at the Grizz/ Miami game for Wed and just created a thread about it. I really like the spot the Grizz will be in, and now it is just a question of what the line will be. Miami is off of a back to back (so that won't help with the line) but I recall when they were in a similar spot against Houston they only got 2.5 points, so I'm hoping for something in that range as I'm very confident that the Grizz will cover with ease. Again, sorry for overestimating the mental faculties of teenagers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    @bakat
    @lc
    @valour
    @vin

    @lmb I can't play the lakers rockets game. The whole laker team has been shut down (although I know why you are asking - get thrashed by the clippers and win the next big one like setup in the OKC game? Good memory).

    Yesterday Bazemore went down and he gets an MRI today so likely won't play.

    Nick young is playing through an injury and can get shut down at any moment.

    Gasol
    Nash
    Kaman
    Farmar
    All done for the season.

    I couldn't hang a line on that game if I were Vegas. 18-20? Is that enough? Not if the lakers have only 7 healthy guys and Jordan hill as their starting center (and no backup center!). And he's really a forward "Kinda movin' around underneath" so I'm using the center designation liberally. Vegas will probably go 17/18. 16 at a bare minimum on a b2b.

    I'm looking at the  records and the lakers aren't in as great a shape for the draft as you think. They have the sixth worst record. If a team leapfrog a them they get the 7th pick. If two teams do, they get the eighth pick. This is assuming their lottery balls don't come up.

    Those aren't rock solid picks for what will be the worst season in their history.

    The ONLY thing they have going for them is that if they lose one more, they set the all-time laker record for losses in a season. That is motivation to win something before year's end.

    Utah can still tie them or pass them as they will likely not lose out. Lakers should lose out if they are smart and owner/coach/GM are the rying to with this player shutdown but players don't tank, they play it right to the end. 

    Lakers will likely win just one more. Which one? We'll have to see.

    Better games are the last home game against the Grizz on 4-13 or the last game of the season against the spurs if the spurs rest everyone (and it is still very iffy even if that happens).


    The NCAA: Beginnerboy put the second largest bet of the year on kentucky. I'll roll with his pick.


    Sorry, Scal, it was a very tough game to watch and have money on. As I wrote in the College Basketball Forum, Kentucky didn't start playing till the 5:41 mark, down 15-30. From there, they outplay Uconn for the next 26 minutes and still lost, never being able to take that elusive lead (when they had multiple chances) and missed the free throws. Basically, everything that could go wrong went wrong but this team was so talented that they hung around until the end (most teams would have just caved). They are men among boys (in terms of size, strength and even speed, although it took them 15 minutes to find that extra gear) but, and this is a big but that I overlooked, their mental faculties are still developing. In every game they played, it took these guys an entire half to figure out that they were the better team and could have their way with their opponents. You'd think that by the time they got to the title game they would have the confidence (and experience, from the previous games) needed to steamroll their opponent. But no, they started off slow again and this time, paid the price (and made us pay it with them). How unfortunate. I do have an NBA game, however, which will help us get back on track. I'm looking at the Grizz/ Miami game for Wed and just created a thread about it. I really like the spot the Grizz will be in, and now it is just a question of what the line will be. Miami is off of a back to back (so that won't help with the line) but I recall when they were in a similar spot against Houston they only got 2.5 points, so I'm hoping for something in that range as I'm very confident that the Grizz will cover with ease. Again, sorry for overestimating the mental faculties of teenagers.
     
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    Great pic Scal and I love your writeups. Keep it up and shut those haters down!
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    Great pic Scal and I love your writeups. Keep it up and shut those haters down!
     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2014 - 9:18 AM ET #205

    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:


    Sorry, Scal, it was a very tough game to watch and have money on. As I wrote in the College Basketball Forum, Kentucky didn't start playing till the 5:41 mark, down 15-30. From there, they outplay Uconn for the next 26 minutes and still lost, never being able to take that elusive lead (when they had multiple chances) and missed the free throws. Basically, everything that could go wrong went wrong but this team was so talented that they hung around until the end (most teams would have just caved). They are men among boys (in terms of size, strength and even speed, although it took them 15 minutes to find that extra gear) but, and this is a big but that I overlooked, their mental faculties are still developing. In every game they played, it took these guys an entire half to figure out that they were the better team and could have their way with their opponents. You'd think that by the time they got to the title game they would have the confidence (and experience, from the previous games) needed to steamroll their opponent. But no, they started off slow again and this time, paid the price (and made us pay it with them). How unfortunate. I do have an NBA game, however, which will help us get back on track. I'm looking at the Grizz/ Miami game for Wed and just created a thread about it. I really like the spot the Grizz will be in, and now it is just a question of what the line will be. Miami is off of a back to back (so that won't help with the line) but I recall when they were in a similar spot against Houston they only got 2.5 points, so I'm hoping for something in that range as I'm very confident that the Grizz will cover with ease. Again, sorry for overestimating the mental faculties of teenagers.

    No big whoop. No need for the apology.

    That was the one thing I was afraid of with 5 freshman: the start. And their start was just horrid. You said it right. It was too much to overcome. A ten point lead in college is at least a 16 point lead in the pros. 

    Of all the great coaches in college basketball, Kevin Ollie now has a championship. Amazing.

    If you saw Calhoun clapping at the end there, he was doing it with slight disdain. He had a look of: "I should still be the one out there as head coach and under this confetti right now. This guy? He's an amateur."

    Sounds good on Memphis. It will just be about a favorable line. 
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    Sorry, Scal, it was a very tough game to watch and have money on. As I wrote in the College Basketball Forum, Kentucky didn't start playing till the 5:41 mark, down 15-30. From there, they outplay Uconn for the next 26 minutes and still lost, never being able to take that elusive lead (when they had multiple chances) and missed the free throws. Basically, everything that could go wrong went wrong but this team was so talented that they hung around until the end (most teams would have just caved). They are men among boys (in terms of size, strength and even speed, although it took them 15 minutes to find that extra gear) but, and this is a big but that I overlooked, their mental faculties are still developing. In every game they played, it took these guys an entire half to figure out that they were the better team and could have their way with their opponents. You'd think that by the time they got to the title game they would have the confidence (and experience, from the previous games) needed to steamroll their opponent. But no, they started off slow again and this time, paid the price (and made us pay it with them). How unfortunate. I do have an NBA game, however, which will help us get back on track. I'm looking at the Grizz/ Miami game for Wed and just created a thread about it. I really like the spot the Grizz will be in, and now it is just a question of what the line will be. Miami is off of a back to back (so that won't help with the line) but I recall when they were in a similar spot against Houston they only got 2.5 points, so I'm hoping for something in that range as I'm very confident that the Grizz will cover with ease. Again, sorry for overestimating the mental faculties of teenagers.

    No big whoop. No need for the apology.

    That was the one thing I was afraid of with 5 freshman: the start. And their start was just horrid. You said it right. It was too much to overcome. A ten point lead in college is at least a 16 point lead in the pros. 

    Of all the great coaches in college basketball, Kevin Ollie now has a championship. Amazing.

    If you saw Calhoun clapping at the end there, he was doing it with slight disdain. He had a look of: "I should still be the one out there as head coach and under this confetti right now. This guy? He's an amateur."

    Sounds good on Memphis. It will just be about a favorable line. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bhawksfan:

    Great pic Scal and I love your writeups. Keep it up and shut those haters down!
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    Great pic Scal and I love your writeups. Keep it up and shut those haters down!
     
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    the only thing i ever saw you write that made me say uggghhhh  is the opening title with pimps and person...it is a Racist comment ,denigerating the human race Scal.        fyi. i know u against racism.u knocked a lotta heads over the yrs.....when man pimp woman, &vicey versa, it is a abomination of humanity. I LOVE YR WRITEUPS and the way u stand for ppl.  i know u was joking...but to compare yrself to a pimp is very bad for yr soul.  sorry, dont hate me, i had to tell you.    

    knicks in playoffs will be dangerous 1st rnd for someone.  
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    the only thing i ever saw you write that made me say uggghhhh  is the opening title with pimps and person...it is a Racist comment ,denigerating the human race Scal.        fyi. i know u against racism.u knocked a lotta heads over the yrs.....when man pimp woman, &vicey versa, it is a abomination of humanity. I LOVE YR WRITEUPS and the way u stand for ppl.  i know u was joking...but to compare yrself to a pimp is very bad for yr soul.  sorry, dont hate me, i had to tell you.    

    knicks in playoffs will be dangerous 1st rnd for someone.  
     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2014 - 10:45 AM ET #208

    Quote Originally Posted by BIGfnPOO:

    the only thing i ever saw you write that made me say uggghhhh  is the opening title with pimps and person...it is a Racist comment ,denigerating the human race Scal.        fyi. i know u against racism.u knocked a lotta heads over the yrs.....when man pimp woman, &vicey versa, it is a abomination of humanity. I LOVE YR WRITEUPS and the way u stand for ppl.  i know u was joking...but to compare yrself to a pimp is very bad for yr soul.  sorry, dont hate me, i had to tell you.    

    knicks in playoffs will be dangerous 1st rnd for someone.  

    Big, it's compete and unadulterated satire. Nothing more.

    I would never write a title like that with any seriousness. If I did, it's quite childish as someone said in this thread.

    (And if there was even a single woman who read this thread - there isn't - I wouldn't write it out of respect for that single one).


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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGfnPOO:

    the only thing i ever saw you write that made me say uggghhhh  is the opening title with pimps and person...it is a Racist comment ,denigerating the human race Scal.        fyi. i know u against racism.u knocked a lotta heads over the yrs.....when man pimp woman, &vicey versa, it is a abomination of humanity. I LOVE YR WRITEUPS and the way u stand for ppl.  i know u was joking...but to compare yrself to a pimp is very bad for yr soul.  sorry, dont hate me, i had to tell you.    

    knicks in playoffs will be dangerous 1st rnd for someone.  

    Big, it's compete and unadulterated satire. Nothing more.

    I would never write a title like that with any seriousness. If I did, it's quite childish as someone said in this thread.

    (And if there was even a single woman who read this thread - there isn't - I wouldn't write it out of respect for that single one).


     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2014 - 4:31 PM ET #209

    Scal... according to your last few write ups you've made it clear that the hawks and pistons really don't want to win. So going with that you say its fair to think that this game should go over 210 due to little defense or do you think the two have little correlation. 

    I know you don't bet totals just curious what you think about the reasoning.
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    Scal... according to your last few write ups you've made it clear that the hawks and pistons really don't want to win. So going with that you say its fair to think that this game should go over 210 due to little defense or do you think the two have little correlation. 

    I know you don't bet totals just curious what you think about the reasoning.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2014 - 5:56 PM ET #210

    Quote Originally Posted by brendansilver:

    Scal... according to your last few write ups you've made it clear that the hawks and pistons really don't want to win. So going with that you say its fair to think that this game should go over 210 due to little defense or do you think the two have little correlation. 

    I know you don't bet totals just curious what you think about the reasoning.

    I never play totals.

    I am rooting for the pistons hard tonight as I want the Knicks playoff hopes, however small, to remain alive to keep them motivated. 

    I just don't see what the Pistons have to play for here to beat a team that is now as focused as it's been all year and has a magic number of 3 with some very weak competition ahead, pistons included.

    Also if the pistons win, it brings them 2 games behind the Cavs. 

    And guess who the pistons play in their next game: the Cavs.

    And guess what happens to the Pistons if they finish with a better record than the Cavs (or tiebreakers may put them ahead too)? They lose their first round draft pick.

    This sets up a 'must lose' for the management and coaches to arrange a lineup, rest guys too long and basically sabotage their own team to lose the next 4 or some of the next 4 if the pistons win tonight. They will be too close to the Cavs for comfort's sake. But lose to the Cavs and it all goes away.

    Why would the Pistons want to get within one game of losing their draft pick?

    So (cliff notes):

    If the Pistons win tonight it:

    1) Helps the Knicks playoff chances and keeps them motivated. (Good for capping the Knicks)
    2) Sets up what has to be a 'must lose' vs. the Cavs. (Interesting cap for one game but the line will be an issue).

    Again, players will not tank but coaches can most certainly be on indirect orders to do so with a wink and a nod.

    So let's cheer for an outright Pistons win tonight for gambling's sake! It's a tall order against a Hawks team that looks great vs. a team that has nothing to play for but stranger things have happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brendansilver:

    Scal... according to your last few write ups you've made it clear that the hawks and pistons really don't want to win. So going with that you say its fair to think that this game should go over 210 due to little defense or do you think the two have little correlation. 

    I know you don't bet totals just curious what you think about the reasoning.

    I never play totals.

    I am rooting for the pistons hard tonight as I want the Knicks playoff hopes, however small, to remain alive to keep them motivated. 

    I just don't see what the Pistons have to play for here to beat a team that is now as focused as it's been all year and has a magic number of 3 with some very weak competition ahead, pistons included.

    Also if the pistons win, it brings them 2 games behind the Cavs. 

    And guess who the pistons play in their next game: the Cavs.

    And guess what happens to the Pistons if they finish with a better record than the Cavs (or tiebreakers may put them ahead too)? They lose their first round draft pick.

    This sets up a 'must lose' for the management and coaches to arrange a lineup, rest guys too long and basically sabotage their own team to lose the next 4 or some of the next 4 if the pistons win tonight. They will be too close to the Cavs for comfort's sake. But lose to the Cavs and it all goes away.

    Why would the Pistons want to get within one game of losing their draft pick?

    So (cliff notes):

    If the Pistons win tonight it:

    1) Helps the Knicks playoff chances and keeps them motivated. (Good for capping the Knicks)
    2) Sets up what has to be a 'must lose' vs. the Cavs. (Interesting cap for one game but the line will be an issue).

    Again, players will not tank but coaches can most certainly be on indirect orders to do so with a wink and a nod.

    So let's cheer for an outright Pistons win tonight for gambling's sake! It's a tall order against a Hawks team that looks great vs. a team that has nothing to play for but stranger things have happened.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2014 - 5:58 PM ET #211

    By the way, hawks DO want this win based on their last two performances. A 45-15 lead on the Pacers pretty much out all the tanking business to bed. Do the pistons want it too? I hope so.
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    By the way, hawks DO want this win based on their last two performances. A 45-15 lead on the Pacers pretty much out all the tanking business to bed. Do the pistons want it too? I hope so.
     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2014 - 7:02 PM ET #212

    Smith said if they make the playoffs the would be dangerous , then they got beat at home against Washington . That's the problem with this team , no matter how they play , or who they get beat by , they still think they area good team

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    Smith said if they make the playoffs the would be dangerous , then they got beat at home against Washington . That's the problem with this team , no matter how they play , or who they get beat by , they still think they area good team

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