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    THE NBA ISNT FIXED

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    Posted: May. 2, 2012 - 4:01 PM ET #26

    Fuck You, you wasted your time posting your useless opinion on here idiot.
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    Posted: May. 2, 2012 - 4:12 PM ET #27

    gettin pretty heated in here haha.

    You don't want to think the NBA is fixed----But there sure are some BIG COINCIDENCES when it comes to going over/under key numbers at the end of a game.
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    gettin pretty heated in here haha.

    You don't want to think the NBA is fixed----But there sure are some BIG COINCIDENCES when it comes to going over/under key numbers at the end of a game.
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2012 - 4:16 PM ET #28

    The NBA is fixed. Mostly by the REF placing bets for themselves. I know a person that knows a ref that places bets all the time. REAL TALK
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    The NBA is fixed. Mostly by the REF placing bets for themselves. I know a person that knows a ref that places bets all the time. REAL TALK
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2012 - 4:18 PM ET #29

    Remember the kings vs lakers a few years back when Chris Webber and Bibby was playing. That same ref was caught cheating and wen to prison. The players don't cheat, its the ref.
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    Remember the kings vs lakers a few years back when Chris Webber and Bibby was playing. That same ref was caught cheating and wen to prison. The players don't cheat, its the ref.
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2012 - 4:18 PM ET #30

    Yes it is Fixed, you know them guys bet on all the games... I couldnt believe the Lakers game lastnight...
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    Yes it is Fixed, you know them guys bet on all the games... I couldnt believe the Lakers game lastnight...
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2012 - 4:22 PM ET #31

    I beleave the games are fixed.Last night lal vs. Denver just before the final buzzer denver gets two points to cover.They couldnot win the game with that.most of the time teams dont even bother to shoot or dunk at that time lal didnot cover won the game and so did the books.Only one reff has been arrested for fixing you mean to tell me that noone else in the entire nba was invovled?  The players do make plenty but they have freinds and family that could make money to.The more money one person has they still want more.Would you buy a used car off these guys?
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    I beleave the games are fixed.Last night lal vs. Denver just before the final buzzer denver gets two points to cover.They couldnot win the game with that.most of the time teams dont even bother to shoot or dunk at that time lal didnot cover won the game and so did the books.Only one reff has been arrested for fixing you mean to tell me that noone else in the entire nba was invovled?  The players do make plenty but they have freinds and family that could make money to.The more money one person has they still want more.Would you buy a used car off these guys?
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2012 - 5:05 PM ET #32

    You know after so many nba games, things happen. Mathematically it all makes sense. There are so many combinations of things that can happen in a game, and backdoor covers are right there. It's eventually going to happen.
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    You know after so many nba games, things happen. Mathematically it all makes sense. There are so many combinations of things that can happen in a game, and backdoor covers are right there. It's eventually going to happen.
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2012 - 5:31 PM ET #33

    Only the final results are fixed not spreads.. One team gets ordered to "take a break" and let the other team win.. This has always happened...in ALL sports. I'm an ex soccer player and I know this
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    Only the final results are fixed not spreads.. One team gets ordered to "take a break" and let the other team win.. This has always happened...in ALL sports. I'm an ex soccer player and I know this
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2012 - 5:36 PM ET #34

    how can people say NBA is not fixed when teams literally tank on purpose for better draft picks.. every season?? That's a form of match fixing and people who don't believe teams "tank" need to seriously stop betting for their sake
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    how can people say NBA is not fixed when teams literally tank on purpose for better draft picks.. every season?? That's a form of match fixing and people who don't believe teams "tank" need to seriously stop betting for their sake
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2012 - 5:38 PM ET #35

    its fixed dumb  fucks...........................BVDMOB!
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    its fixed dumb  fucks...........................BVDMOB!
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2012 - 5:52 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by pepsi562:


    agreed I'll post the link again

    Donaghy  info on officials fixing
    https://deadspin.com/5392067/excerpts-from-the-book-the-nba-doesnt-want-you-to-r 


    also to the OP, who gives a rats ass to complain when they win many people don't give a damn about ANYTHING as long as it doesn't negatively affect them.  

    its greed for money, I bet most of the people here if offered some insane deal like 1 million to shoot a person dead with no chance you'll be found out would do it, what's their probable justification, I really desperately need the money for blah blah blah, or people who kidnap people to become sex workers  why? for the money corrupt corrupt but hey its cause 

    Quote Originally Posted by BadBeat23:

    Fuck You, you wasted your time posting your useless opinion on here idiot.


    why so heated? I'm just stating what I have found about refs doing what you say is impossible and the only thing I would consider my opinion I guess would be  kidnapping people to become sex workers or killing people for money is corrupt, I guess you may not share the same viewpoint? but to each his own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pepsi562:


    agreed I'll post the link again

    Donaghy  info on officials fixing
    https://deadspin.com/5392067/excerpts-from-the-book-the-nba-doesnt-want-you-to-r 


    also to the OP, who gives a rats ass to complain when they win many people don't give a damn about ANYTHING as long as it doesn't negatively affect them.  

    its greed for money, I bet most of the people here if offered some insane deal like 1 million to shoot a person dead with no chance you'll be found out would do it, what's their probable justification, I really desperately need the money for blah blah blah, or people who kidnap people to become sex workers  why? for the money corrupt corrupt but hey its cause 

    Quote Originally Posted by BadBeat23:

    Fuck You, you wasted your time posting your useless opinion on here idiot.


    why so heated? I'm just stating what I have found about refs doing what you say is impossible and the only thing I would consider my opinion I guess would be  kidnapping people to become sex workers or killing people for money is corrupt, I guess you may not share the same viewpoint? but to each his own.
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2012 - 6:07 PM ET #37

    its not fixed ....its just rehearsed like the wwe before the game begins.....give me a frickin break.....hawks dont foul yesterday with 24 sec left ....lakers game line is -5 and 203.5...the last shot (meaningless) by farrid yesterday makes it -4 and 204...wow you think that just happened by chance.....dont you think these athletes know the lines before the games go on.....what about those timeouts do u think the frickin coach cares about how to draw up a play when his team is being blown out by 16....no its about covering or tanking the sec half line.....watch the games and you will see there are too many .....i repeat too many just random coincidences......andrew bynum three point shot earlier this year at the buzzer....a meaningless foul by boston with 7 sec left against the bulls.....these are all coincidences right???
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    its not fixed ....its just rehearsed like the wwe before the game begins.....give me a frickin break.....hawks dont foul yesterday with 24 sec left ....lakers game line is -5 and 203.5...the last shot (meaningless) by farrid yesterday makes it -4 and 204...wow you think that just happened by chance.....dont you think these athletes know the lines before the games go on.....what about those timeouts do u think the frickin coach cares about how to draw up a play when his team is being blown out by 16....no its about covering or tanking the sec half line.....watch the games and you will see there are too many .....i repeat too many just random coincidences......andrew bynum three point shot earlier this year at the buzzer....a meaningless foul by boston with 7 sec left against the bulls.....these are all coincidences right???
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2012 - 6:08 PM ET #38

    people have to understand....sports are like the stock market....you hope you picked the right stock and you make money....they are fixed ...you just hope you are on the right side..end of story
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    people have to understand....sports are like the stock market....you hope you picked the right stock and you make money....they are fixed ...you just hope you are on the right side..end of story
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2012 - 6:21 PM ET #39

    On the contrary, let me word this correctly. YOUR FUCKING RETARDED if you think sports are fixed. Players are millionaires. Their not just going to throw games for moeny. They want to win. Have you ever asked yourself what it would take to stage 60 minutes of basketball?

    Yes players are millionaires. You know who are not millionaires? Refs. Referee's can easily control the tempo of the game and can play Over the totals by putting players on the foul line. You say that people who are convinced of this are people who have lost bets but I've been on the other side of that. There was a Laker/Suns game a few years back in the final 2 and half minutes of the game I need like 28 points to go over the total. The ref in that game called ridiculous fouls on every play. The game ended up going 9 points over the total.  The ref in that guy was a guy by the name of Tim Donaghy. 
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    On the contrary, let me word this correctly. YOUR FUCKING RETARDED if you think sports are fixed. Players are millionaires. Their not just going to throw games for moeny. They want to win. Have you ever asked yourself what it would take to stage 60 minutes of basketball?

    Yes players are millionaires. You know who are not millionaires? Refs. Referee's can easily control the tempo of the game and can play Over the totals by putting players on the foul line. You say that people who are convinced of this are people who have lost bets but I've been on the other side of that. There was a Laker/Suns game a few years back in the final 2 and half minutes of the game I need like 28 points to go over the total. The ref in that game called ridiculous fouls on every play. The game ended up going 9 points over the total.  The ref in that guy was a guy by the name of Tim Donaghy. 
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2012 - 6:23 PM ET #40

    I dont believe head to heads are fixed, ie, i dont believe players LOSE games to collect money. But i have no doubts SOME totals and spreads are tampered with.
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    I dont believe head to heads are fixed, ie, i dont believe players LOSE games to collect money. But i have no doubts SOME totals and spreads are tampered with.
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2012 - 6:24 PM ET #41

    two points:

    1) what about that commercial that aired during halftime of last night's game congratulating the celtics on tying the series?  of course many would call that just a "mistake", but there is no proof that it was.  in fact, why even make any such commercial?

    2) there is ANOTHER reason why millionaires would shave points or even throw games--it's called blackmail, and NO ONE is impervious to this if they have a secret they absolutely do not want let out.

     

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    two points:

    1) what about that commercial that aired during halftime of last night's game congratulating the celtics on tying the series?  of course many would call that just a "mistake", but there is no proof that it was.  in fact, why even make any such commercial?

    2) there is ANOTHER reason why millionaires would shave points or even throw games--it's called blackmail, and NO ONE is impervious to this if they have a secret they absolutely do not want let out.

     

     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2012 - 6:27 PM ET #42

    Realy fixes only sigle team after total game start play.

    parlay can not fixes .

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    Realy fixes only sigle team after total game start play.

    parlay can not fixes .

     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2012 - 6:37 PM ET #43

    LOL, I have betting sports over 15 years. I quit my job 10 years ago, I'm still not broke. Actually winning money each year and I still believe SPORTS are ALL FIXED!
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    LOL, I have betting sports over 15 years. I quit my job 10 years ago, I'm still not broke. Actually winning money each year and I still believe SPORTS are ALL FIXED!
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2012 - 6:52 PM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by jnemeh:

    its not fixed ....its just rehearsed like the wwe before the game begins.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnemeh:

    its not fixed ....its just rehearsed like the wwe before the game begins.....

     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2012 - 7:07 PM ET #45

    a referee went to prison for it

    I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S FIXED! WORST SPORT IN THE WORLD TO BET ON

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    a referee went to prison for it

    I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S FIXED! WORST SPORT IN THE WORLD TO BET ON

     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2012 - 7:30 PM ET #46

    OH MY GOD!



    Painful stuff.

    CLEARLY the NBA CAN be fixed (and has been in the past), that is just common sense.
    But not everything about anything that happens to be unlucky for you is fixed....in fact i'd say the likelihood you were just screwed by a fix is slim, very slim.

    It cracks me up when people say things like Denver's tip in last night was part of a fix, how can you possibly think that? They just timed it to perfection to screw you over?
    Look shit happens, and when you lose a natural reaction is to defend yourself to think how could you possibly lose, you capped this game perfectly.
    Guess what? you didn't and unlucky for you it didn't work out this time, move onto the next one or don't even bother at all.

    This place is hilariously painful to read when a game is close to a line, there are two sides to a line people take a step back from your own situation and realize this.

    Its all been blown over the top, someone thought it was a good idea to cry fix when they lost and now it has got out of control, i don't just mean here either.

    Use some logic people.
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    OH MY GOD!



    Painful stuff.

    CLEARLY the NBA CAN be fixed (and has been in the past), that is just common sense.
    But not everything about anything that happens to be unlucky for you is fixed....in fact i'd say the likelihood you were just screwed by a fix is slim, very slim.

    It cracks me up when people say things like Denver's tip in last night was part of a fix, how can you possibly think that? They just timed it to perfection to screw you over?
    Look shit happens, and when you lose a natural reaction is to defend yourself to think how could you possibly lose, you capped this game perfectly.
    Guess what? you didn't and unlucky for you it didn't work out this time, move onto the next one or don't even bother at all.

    This place is hilariously painful to read when a game is close to a line, there are two sides to a line people take a step back from your own situation and realize this.

    Its all been blown over the top, someone thought it was a good idea to cry fix when they lost and now it has got out of control, i don't just mean here either.

    Use some logic people.
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2012 - 7:41 PM ET #47

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce_Bag:

    OH MY GOD!



    Painful stuff.

    CLEARLY the NBA CAN be fixed (and has been in the past), that is just common sense.
    But not everything about anything that happens to be unlucky for you is fixed....in fact i'd say the likelihood you were just screwed by a fix is slim, very slim.

    It cracks me up when people say things like Denver's tip in last night was part of a fix, how can you possibly think that? They just timed it to perfection to screw you over?
    Look shit happens, and when you lose a natural reaction is to defend yourself to think how could you possibly lose, you capped this game perfectly.
    Guess what? you didn't and unlucky for you it didn't work out this time, move onto the next one or don't even bother at all.

    This place is hilariously painful to read when a game is close to a line, there are two sides to a line people take a step back from your own situation and realize this.

    Its all been blown over the top, someone thought it was a good idea to cry fix when they lost and now it has got out of control, i don't just mean here either.

    Use some logic people.

    You worded this perfectly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce_Bag:

    OH MY GOD!



    Painful stuff.

    CLEARLY the NBA CAN be fixed (and has been in the past), that is just common sense.
    But not everything about anything that happens to be unlucky for you is fixed....in fact i'd say the likelihood you were just screwed by a fix is slim, very slim.

    It cracks me up when people say things like Denver's tip in last night was part of a fix, how can you possibly think that? They just timed it to perfection to screw you over?
    Look shit happens, and when you lose a natural reaction is to defend yourself to think how could you possibly lose, you capped this game perfectly.
    Guess what? you didn't and unlucky for you it didn't work out this time, move onto the next one or don't even bother at all.

    This place is hilariously painful to read when a game is close to a line, there are two sides to a line people take a step back from your own situation and realize this.

    Its all been blown over the top, someone thought it was a good idea to cry fix when they lost and now it has got out of control, i don't just mean here either.

    Use some logic people.

    You worded this perfectly
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2012 - 7:54 PM ET #48

    Conspiracy Theorists: Do your homework, fade the public (plenty of websites that offer that information) and walk in unison w/ Vegas.

    Non Conspiracy Theorists: Tail the public and see what happens.  To give David Stern the benefit of the doubt means you trust anyone.  Just don't lie to yourself thinking these players don't pay attention to these lines.  

    Good day and good gambling.
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    Conspiracy Theorists: Do your homework, fade the public (plenty of websites that offer that information) and walk in unison w/ Vegas.

    Non Conspiracy Theorists: Tail the public and see what happens.  To give David Stern the benefit of the doubt means you trust anyone.  Just don't lie to yourself thinking these players don't pay attention to these lines.  

    Good day and good gambling.
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2012 - 8:22 PM ET #49

    If sports weren't fixed books would be broke/wouldn't exist
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    If sports weren't fixed books would be broke/wouldn't exist
     
     
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    Disgraced former NBA ref Tim Donaghy made explosive charges against the league in response to a demand from the NBA that he pay $1 million in restitution. What does it all mean? ESPN.com's Lester Munson explains.

    • Tim Donaghy's allegations of improprieties by officials have besmirched what had been a perfect season in the NBA.

    "Referees A, F and G were officiating a playoff series between Teams 5 and 6 in May of 2002. It was the sixth game of a seven-game series, and a Team 5 victory that night would have ended the series. However, Tim learned from Referee A that Referees A and F wanted to extend the series to seven games. Tim knew referees A and F to be 'company men,' always acting in the interest of the NBA, and that night, it was in the NBA's interest to add another game to the series. Referees A and F heavily favored Team 6. Personal fouls [resulting in obviously injured players] were ignored even when they occurred in full view of the referees. Conversely, the referees called made-up fouls on Team 5 in order to give additional free throw opportunities for Team 6. Their foul-calling also led to the ejection of two Team 5 players. The referees' favoring of Team 6 led to that team's victory that night, and Team 6 came back from behind to win that series."

    Although no teams are specifically named, it is not hard to deduce the game in question. The Lakers-Kings series was the only one that postseason that went seven games, and the officiating in Game 6 was so questionable that consumer advocate and former presidential candidate Ralph Nader called for a formal investigation.

    The Lakers attempted 40 free throws to the Kings' 25 in that game, and Los Angeles made 21 of 27 from the line while Sacramento converted 7 of 9 in the fourth quarter alone.

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    Disgraced former NBA ref Tim Donaghy made explosive charges against the league in response to a demand from the NBA that he pay $1 million in restitution. What does it all mean? ESPN.com's Lester Munson explains.

    • Tim Donaghy's allegations of improprieties by officials have besmirched what had been a perfect season in the NBA.

    "Referees A, F and G were officiating a playoff series between Teams 5 and 6 in May of 2002. It was the sixth game of a seven-game series, and a Team 5 victory that night would have ended the series. However, Tim learned from Referee A that Referees A and F wanted to extend the series to seven games. Tim knew referees A and F to be 'company men,' always acting in the interest of the NBA, and that night, it was in the NBA's interest to add another game to the series. Referees A and F heavily favored Team 6. Personal fouls [resulting in obviously injured players] were ignored even when they occurred in full view of the referees. Conversely, the referees called made-up fouls on Team 5 in order to give additional free throw opportunities for Team 6. Their foul-calling also led to the ejection of two Team 5 players. The referees' favoring of Team 6 led to that team's victory that night, and Team 6 came back from behind to win that series."

    Although no teams are specifically named, it is not hard to deduce the game in question. The Lakers-Kings series was the only one that postseason that went seven games, and the officiating in Game 6 was so questionable that consumer advocate and former presidential candidate Ralph Nader called for a formal investigation.

    The Lakers attempted 40 free throws to the Kings' 25 in that game, and Los Angeles made 21 of 27 from the line while Sacramento converted 7 of 9 in the fourth quarter alone.

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