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    IT'S NBA PLAYOFF TIME ..................2026

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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2026 - 9:04 AM ET #451

    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    The analysts on this morning's Get Up agreed that KAT is the MVP at this point.  However, the show also displayed the fact that, going back for several decades, Brunson's PO average of 9.3 points in the fourth quarter trails only Dirk Nowitski's performance in 2011.

     

    Yea the hero down the stretch  and the guy scoring gets lots of credit  whether deserved or not ..............peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    The analysts on this morning's Get Up agreed that KAT is the MVP at this point.  However, the show also displayed the fact that, going back for several decades, Brunson's PO average of 9.3 points in the fourth quarter trails only Dirk Nowitski's performance in 2011.

     

    Yea the hero down the stretch  and the guy scoring gets lots of credit  whether deserved or not ..............peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2026 - 9:06 AM ET #452

    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    Quote Originally Posted by theclaw: Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams: I think I'll hold off on NBA queries until the next season.   If you have queries dog post them, I for one like to see them .........   I have some queries that favor NY in Game 3, but more queries that favor SA.  I see money has poured in on SA to bring down the line from NY -2.5 to NY -1.5, cutting some value from SA.  I am also leery about betting on SA because if the refs continue to allow Towns to rough up VW, it's hard to see a path for SA to take Game 3. I just lost on the 86.8% query I posted in Comment #435, so it is hard to have any confidence in this less-convincing query.  I am mostly posting this for my fellow SDQL adepts to get them thinking about assists/TOs ratio queries for maybe the first time. PO = 1 and AD and line < 4.7 and p:LHF and p:assists/p:TO < 1.43 SU:  25-14 (2.8,64.1%) ATS:  27-12 (5.7,69.2%) In the playoffs, Away Dogs of 1.0-4.5 points off a Loss as a Home Favorite win SU 64.1% and cover ATS 69.2% of the games if the ratio of the previous game's assists to turnovers is less than 1.43. Unfortunately most of the advantages disappear when the rounds and series games are parameters: PO = 1 and AD and line < 4.7 and p:LHF and p:assists/p:TO < 1.43 and (round = 4 or series game = 3) SU:  11-9 (-0.8,55.0%) ATS:  12-8 (1.9,60.0%) I don't bet queries with a narrow average ATS margin of just 1.9 points, and if "total > 208.2" is an added parameter, both the SU and ATS fall to 2-3.  This is mostly food for thought rather than a call to action. Good luck everybody.

     

    Nice peace_5.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    Quote Originally Posted by theclaw: Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams: I think I'll hold off on NBA queries until the next season.   If you have queries dog post them, I for one like to see them .........   I have some queries that favor NY in Game 3, but more queries that favor SA.  I see money has poured in on SA to bring down the line from NY -2.5 to NY -1.5, cutting some value from SA.  I am also leery about betting on SA because if the refs continue to allow Towns to rough up VW, it's hard to see a path for SA to take Game 3. I just lost on the 86.8% query I posted in Comment #435, so it is hard to have any confidence in this less-convincing query.  I am mostly posting this for my fellow SDQL adepts to get them thinking about assists/TOs ratio queries for maybe the first time. PO = 1 and AD and line < 4.7 and p:LHF and p:assists/p:TO < 1.43 SU:  25-14 (2.8,64.1%) ATS:  27-12 (5.7,69.2%) In the playoffs, Away Dogs of 1.0-4.5 points off a Loss as a Home Favorite win SU 64.1% and cover ATS 69.2% of the games if the ratio of the previous game's assists to turnovers is less than 1.43. Unfortunately most of the advantages disappear when the rounds and series games are parameters: PO = 1 and AD and line < 4.7 and p:LHF and p:assists/p:TO < 1.43 and (round = 4 or series game = 3) SU:  11-9 (-0.8,55.0%) ATS:  12-8 (1.9,60.0%) I don't bet queries with a narrow average ATS margin of just 1.9 points, and if "total > 208.2" is an added parameter, both the SU and ATS fall to 2-3.  This is mostly food for thought rather than a call to action. Good luck everybody.

     

    Nice peace_5.........

     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2026 - 9:06 AM ET #453

    Quote Originally Posted by Stress:

    Has there ever been more hype for a Finals game 3?  First finals game at MSG since forever, million dollar courtside seats, first President to ever attend, possibly the best playoff run ever, etc..  Maybe all this hype finally derails the Knicks.  If there ever was a good time to bet against the Knicks, I think tonight is the night.  But I'm too scared to do it.

     

    Yep............peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stress:

    Has there ever been more hype for a Finals game 3?  First finals game at MSG since forever, million dollar courtside seats, first President to ever attend, possibly the best playoff run ever, etc..  Maybe all this hype finally derails the Knicks.  If there ever was a good time to bet against the Knicks, I think tonight is the night.  But I'm too scared to do it.

     

    Yep............peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2026 - 9:08 AM ET #454

    Quote Originally Posted by Indigo999:

    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams: TC, I hope I do not once again curse you by posting a supportive query, but here I go: PO = 1 and series game = 2 and p:WAD and p:FTP > 82 SU:  5-33 (-14.0,13.2%) ATS:  9-29 (-7.9,23.7%) In the playoffs in series game #2, teams off a Win as an Away Dog that made better than 82% of their free throws are just 5-33 (13.2%) SU and 9-29 (23.7%) ATS. That -14.0 average margin is enticing, so I decided to take SA -11.5 points at +175 for a half unit. Good luck everybody.  Been my experience that when an epic query fails that the failed team often will come back to cover the next game.....we'll see how this one works out.

     

    Yes I see that as well with some of my info ........peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indigo999:

    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams: TC, I hope I do not once again curse you by posting a supportive query, but here I go: PO = 1 and series game = 2 and p:WAD and p:FTP > 82 SU:  5-33 (-14.0,13.2%) ATS:  9-29 (-7.9,23.7%) In the playoffs in series game #2, teams off a Win as an Away Dog that made better than 82% of their free throws are just 5-33 (13.2%) SU and 9-29 (23.7%) ATS. That -14.0 average margin is enticing, so I decided to take SA -11.5 points at +175 for a half unit. Good luck everybody.  Been my experience that when an epic query fails that the failed team often will come back to cover the next game.....we'll see how this one works out.

     

    Yes I see that as well with some of my info ........peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2026 - 9:15 AM ET #455

    Game 3 Wemby was a beast. It appeared he is fighting back with this rough-house Knicks team.

    Wemby leads all players in game score after 3 games at 23.6.

    Anunoby after a big game 3 leads all Knicks players 17.9, Towns 16 , Brunson 13.3 but with a huge usage of 39.6%.

    Wemby going against much stronger players throughout the  playoffs has a rebounding % of 13% which is not good.

    Towns clocks in at 16.4%.

     

    Wemby assist 16.5% to 14% TO,s 

    Towns 14.5 assist to 10.9% TO's

    Towns a little better difference 3.6 to Wemby 2.5.

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    Game 3 Wemby was a beast. It appeared he is fighting back with this rough-house Knicks team.

    Wemby leads all players in game score after 3 games at 23.6.

    Anunoby after a big game 3 leads all Knicks players 17.9, Towns 16 , Brunson 13.3 but with a huge usage of 39.6%.

    Wemby going against much stronger players throughout the  playoffs has a rebounding % of 13% which is not good.

    Towns clocks in at 16.4%.

     

    Wemby assist 16.5% to 14% TO,s 

    Towns 14.5 assist to 10.9% TO's

    Towns a little better difference 3.6 to Wemby 2.5.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2026 - 9:24 AM ET #456

    My Lines .......... game 4

     

    Knicks-.06 over Spurs .........full season

    Spurs -.34 over Knicks ..........ave

     

    My Lines 1992 to 2022.......

    Have not updated as of now.

    2.5 difference  with my line and closing line is... 10.5 ATS

    7-2 ATS if coming in off a SU win and 2.5 difference 

    3-3 ATS coming in off a SU loss and a 2.5 difference. 

    We don't have a 2.5 difference  unless the line goes up to 2.5 then using the ave we'd have the 2.5 difference on Spurs but this assuming we give Knicks no credit for playing better in playoffs.

    I think Spurs are better then end of season, closer to the ave,  so is we use end of season that give Knicks extra credit for playoffs which makes this a no play for me.

     

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    My Lines .......... game 4

     

    Knicks-.06 over Spurs .........full season

    Spurs -.34 over Knicks ..........ave

     

    My Lines 1992 to 2022.......

    Have not updated as of now.

    2.5 difference  with my line and closing line is... 10.5 ATS

    7-2 ATS if coming in off a SU win and 2.5 difference 

    3-3 ATS coming in off a SU loss and a 2.5 difference. 

    We don't have a 2.5 difference  unless the line goes up to 2.5 then using the ave we'd have the 2.5 difference on Spurs but this assuming we give Knicks no credit for playing better in playoffs.

    I think Spurs are better then end of season, closer to the ave,  so is we use end of season that give Knicks extra credit for playoffs which makes this a no play for me.

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2026 - 2:31 AM ET #457

    Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:

    My Lines .......... game 4   Knicks-.06 over Spurs .........full season Spurs -.34 over Knicks ..........ave   My Lines 1992 to 2022....... Have not updated as of now. 2.5 difference  with my line and closing line is... 10.5 ATS 7-2 ATS if coming in off a SU win and 2.5 difference  3-3 ATS coming in off a SU loss and a 2.5 difference.  We don't have a 2.5 difference  unless the line goes up to 2.5 then using the ave we'd have the 2.5 difference on Spurs but this assuming we give Knicks no credit for playing better in playoffs. I think Spurs are better then end of season, closer to the ave,  so is we use end of season that give Knicks extra credit for playoffs which makes this a no play for me.

    I guess that all means that NY could win by exactly 1 point (LOL).

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    Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:

    My Lines .......... game 4   Knicks-.06 over Spurs .........full season Spurs -.34 over Knicks ..........ave   My Lines 1992 to 2022....... Have not updated as of now. 2.5 difference  with my line and closing line is... 10.5 ATS 7-2 ATS if coming in off a SU win and 2.5 difference  3-3 ATS coming in off a SU loss and a 2.5 difference.  We don't have a 2.5 difference  unless the line goes up to 2.5 then using the ave we'd have the 2.5 difference on Spurs but this assuming we give Knicks no credit for playing better in playoffs. I think Spurs are better then end of season, closer to the ave,  so is we use end of season that give Knicks extra credit for playoffs which makes this a no play for me.

    I guess that all means that NY could win by exactly 1 point (LOL).

     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2026 - 2:45 AM ET #458

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     Thank you for summarizing all that for us...hehehehehe!!! an_winkan_angel

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     Thank you for summarizing all that for us...hehehehehe!!! an_winkan_angel

     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2026 - 1:39 PM ET #459

    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    Quote Originally Posted by theclaw: My Lines .......... game 4   Knicks-.06 over Spurs .........full season Spurs -.34 over Knicks ..........ave   My Lines 1992 to 2022....... Have not updated as of now. 2.5 difference  with my line and closing line is... 10.5 ATS 7-2 ATS if coming in off a SU win and 2.5 difference  3-3 ATS coming in off a SU loss and a 2.5 difference.  We don't have a 2.5 difference  unless the line goes up to 2.5 then using the ave we'd have the 2.5 difference on Spurs but this assuming we give Knicks no credit for playing better in playoffs. I think Spurs are better then end of season, closer to the ave,  so is we use end of season that give Knicks extra credit for playoffs which makes this a no play for me. I guess that all means that NY could win by exactly 1 point (LOL).

     

    Ha .........peace_5

     

    A lean on my lines is now 2-2 ATS. Lost games 1 & 2 both on the Spurs then won with Spurs game 3 and game 4.

    Game 3 being the biggest difference with my lines and actual line. A game i "should of" , "could of" made a play but damn those Knicks were on such a run I couldn't bring myself to do it.

    Even though I always say "stay the course  with the info", I broke my own rules.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    Quote Originally Posted by theclaw: My Lines .......... game 4   Knicks-.06 over Spurs .........full season Spurs -.34 over Knicks ..........ave   My Lines 1992 to 2022....... Have not updated as of now. 2.5 difference  with my line and closing line is... 10.5 ATS 7-2 ATS if coming in off a SU win and 2.5 difference  3-3 ATS coming in off a SU loss and a 2.5 difference.  We don't have a 2.5 difference  unless the line goes up to 2.5 then using the ave we'd have the 2.5 difference on Spurs but this assuming we give Knicks no credit for playing better in playoffs. I think Spurs are better then end of season, closer to the ave,  so is we use end of season that give Knicks extra credit for playoffs which makes this a no play for me. I guess that all means that NY could win by exactly 1 point (LOL).

     

    Ha .........peace_5

     

    A lean on my lines is now 2-2 ATS. Lost games 1 & 2 both on the Spurs then won with Spurs game 3 and game 4.

    Game 3 being the biggest difference with my lines and actual line. A game i "should of" , "could of" made a play but damn those Knicks were on such a run I couldn't bring myself to do it.

    Even though I always say "stay the course  with the info", I broke my own rules.

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2026 - 1:53 PM ET #460

    Anunoby has put himself in position for MVP, blocks Fox at the end then tips in the winning basket.

    He goes a sensational 7 of 9 on 3's and 10 of 15 overall.

    He leads the Knicks in game score, a players overall contributions, after 4 games.

     

    Meanwhile Wemby misses 2 big FT's and has a poor shooting game like 36% and 20% on 3's in a game he almost certainly needed to win.

    He did get 13 rebounds which was an improvement on his recent play.

    And had 0 TO's.

     

    Is Wemby going to be another Lebron or will he go on to be another Shaq, who after being swept 4-0 by Hakeem and the Rockets won 3 straight titles some years later.

    Lebron did win back to back Titles after losing 2 Finals and crashing in one of those,  and he did loss more Finals overall then he won.

    A you tube talked about Wemby having a high center of gravity so even if he bulks up he still could get pushed around by other strong bigs with a lower center of gravity. 

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    Anunoby has put himself in position for MVP, blocks Fox at the end then tips in the winning basket.

    He goes a sensational 7 of 9 on 3's and 10 of 15 overall.

    He leads the Knicks in game score, a players overall contributions, after 4 games.

     

    Meanwhile Wemby misses 2 big FT's and has a poor shooting game like 36% and 20% on 3's in a game he almost certainly needed to win.

    He did get 13 rebounds which was an improvement on his recent play.

    And had 0 TO's.

     

    Is Wemby going to be another Lebron or will he go on to be another Shaq, who after being swept 4-0 by Hakeem and the Rockets won 3 straight titles some years later.

    Lebron did win back to back Titles after losing 2 Finals and crashing in one of those,  and he did loss more Finals overall then he won.

    A you tube talked about Wemby having a high center of gravity so even if he bulks up he still could get pushed around by other strong bigs with a lower center of gravity. 

     
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    Wembanyama is skating on thin ice:  he already has 3 flagrant fouls this postseason and one more would result in an automatic one-game suspension.  I don't foresee SA winning 3 straight without him.

    He's a young guy, but he needs more self-control or he might be crippling his team.

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    Wembanyama is skating on thin ice:  he already has 3 flagrant fouls this postseason and one more would result in an automatic one-game suspension.  I don't foresee SA winning 3 straight without him.

    He's a young guy, but he needs more self-control or he might be crippling his team.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    Wembanyama is skating on thin ice:  he already has 3 flagrant fouls this postseason and one more would result in an automatic one-game suspension.  I don't foresee SA winning 3 straight without him. He's a young guy, but he needs more self-control or he might be crippling his team.

     

    Good point.............peace_5

    Knicks are roughing him up but within limits are allowed while it seems Wemby wants to fight back but he doesn't  understand to do it within those limits. 

    That is a part of the game Wemby needs to learn.

    Players can get physical, hold some but you can't  swing your elbows purposely trying to hit someone out of frustration.

    You can't  grab Brunson by the back of his neck and push his head down, he did get away with that but that is not how you get physical back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    Wembanyama is skating on thin ice:  he already has 3 flagrant fouls this postseason and one more would result in an automatic one-game suspension.  I don't foresee SA winning 3 straight without him. He's a young guy, but he needs more self-control or he might be crippling his team.

     

    Good point.............peace_5

    Knicks are roughing him up but within limits are allowed while it seems Wemby wants to fight back but he doesn't  understand to do it within those limits. 

    That is a part of the game Wemby needs to learn.

    Players can get physical, hold some but you can't  swing your elbows purposely trying to hit someone out of frustration.

    You can't  grab Brunson by the back of his neck and push his head down, he did get away with that but that is not how you get physical back.

     
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    My Lines ..............game 5

    Spurs -5.94 over Knicks ...... full season

    Spurs -8.34 ........ ave

     

    In closeout games since 1992 ......... we give no additional pts for trailing in the series.

    In all games --- 23-11 ATS

    2 pt difference---- 13-6 ATS

    All other games UNDER 2 pt difference --- 10-5 ATS

     

    THE BOOK as I mentioned before is using the end of season ratings at least according to my ratings.

     

    End of the season we do have a lean on Spurs. 

    Ave we have a play on Spurs.

    I did use end of season stats for Pacers last season in closeout game 6 & 7 .

    Had I used Pacers as of Jan 2cd which is when they became a much better team the 2 pt difference  picks up another win in game 6 on Pacers .

    Game 7 was a 2 pt difference either way.

     

    Play has to be on Spurs or no play.

     

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    My Lines ..............game 5

    Spurs -5.94 over Knicks ...... full season

    Spurs -8.34 ........ ave

     

    In closeout games since 1992 ......... we give no additional pts for trailing in the series.

    In all games --- 23-11 ATS

    2 pt difference---- 13-6 ATS

    All other games UNDER 2 pt difference --- 10-5 ATS

     

    THE BOOK as I mentioned before is using the end of season ratings at least according to my ratings.

     

    End of the season we do have a lean on Spurs. 

    Ave we have a play on Spurs.

    I did use end of season stats for Pacers last season in closeout game 6 & 7 .

    Had I used Pacers as of Jan 2cd which is when they became a much better team the 2 pt difference  picks up another win in game 6 on Pacers .

    Game 7 was a 2 pt difference either way.

     

    Play has to be on Spurs or no play.

     

     
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    peace_5peaceclover

     
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    Good luck with SA.  The road team has covered all four games; maybe this game the home team will step up big.

    This query only covers 9 games, but it says SA should win SU with an average margin of 10.0 points:

    PO = 1 and series game = 5 and HF and -2.2 > line > -8.7 and p:LAD and p:ATSW

    SU:  9-0 (10.0,100.0%)

    ATS:  6-3 (5.2,66.7%)

    OU:  2-7-0 (-5.6,22.2%)

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    Good luck with SA.  The road team has covered all four games; maybe this game the home team will step up big.

    This query only covers 9 games, but it says SA should win SU with an average margin of 10.0 points:

    PO = 1 and series game = 5 and HF and -2.2 > line > -8.7 and p:LAD and p:ATSW

    SU:  9-0 (10.0,100.0%)

    ATS:  6-3 (5.2,66.7%)

    OU:  2-7-0 (-5.6,22.2%)

     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2026 - 4:00 PM ET #466

    TC, in Comment #463 you said you had a play on SA but you didn't mention the line or units.  I'm sure your tailers would love to know.

    TIA.

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    TC, in Comment #463 you said you had a play on SA but you didn't mention the line or units.  I'm sure your tailers would love to know.

    TIA.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2026 - 9:27 PM ET #467

    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    TC, in Comment #463 you said you had a play on SA but you didn't mention the line or units.  I'm sure your tailers would love to know. TIA.

     

    I said play is on Spurs, that is if anyone wants to make a play based on my info.

    I may or may not...........peace_5

     

    Let's see where this line settles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    TC, in Comment #463 you said you had a play on SA but you didn't mention the line or units.  I'm sure your tailers would love to know. TIA.

     

    I said play is on Spurs, that is if anyone wants to make a play based on my info.

    I may or may not...........peace_5

     

    Let's see where this line settles.

     
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    If you want to watch a great video explaining B. RUSSEL VS WILT.

    This guy breaks down alot of info. He points out what I talked about before playoffs that high usage players don't win titles.

    He measures high usage differently 

    It really helps explain why Russel won titles but Wilt didn't  do well in winning  titles.

    And why Wilt scored 50 points per game, in that year he was an extreme outlier in usage from his  outlier high usage self.

     

    Great channel....... thinking basketball

    Greatest Peaks, Russell VS Wilt

    Look it up

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    If you want to watch a great video explaining B. RUSSEL VS WILT.

    This guy breaks down alot of info. He points out what I talked about before playoffs that high usage players don't win titles.

    He measures high usage differently 

    It really helps explain why Russel won titles but Wilt didn't  do well in winning  titles.

    And why Wilt scored 50 points per game, in that year he was an extreme outlier in usage from his  outlier high usage self.

     

    Great channel....... thinking basketball

    Greatest Peaks, Russell VS Wilt

    Look it up

     
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    I regard Bill Russell as the NBA GOAT, but the game has changed so drastically that he could never win 11 NBA championships today.  Today's 3-pointers/bombs away/quasi-Horse style of play doesn't provide much of a chance for an inside powerhouse to dominate.

    Will Victor Wembanyama gain some muscle and win 11 championships?  I am not holding my breath.

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    I regard Bill Russell as the NBA GOAT, but the game has changed so drastically that he could never win 11 NBA championships today.  Today's 3-pointers/bombs away/quasi-Horse style of play doesn't provide much of a chance for an inside powerhouse to dominate.

    Will Victor Wembanyama gain some muscle and win 11 championships?  I am not holding my breath.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2026 - 7:55 PM ET #470

    Teams down 3 - 1 with a single digit spread 46 - 26 - 3 ats
    and coming off a 1 possesion loss 14 - 1 - 0 ats

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    Teams down 3 - 1 with a single digit spread 46 - 26 - 3 ats
    and coming off a 1 possesion loss 14 - 1 - 0 ats

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    @theclaw I regard Bill Russell as the NBA GOAT, but the game has changed so drastically that he could never win 11 NBA championships today.  Today's 3-pointers/bombs away/quasi-Horse style of play doesn't provide much of a chance for an inside powerhouse to dominate. Will Victor Wembanyama gain some muscle and win 11 championships?  I am not holding my breath.

     

    Exactly dog .............peace_5

    And why it is so difficult to compare players as they played in different  era with different rules and style of play.

    A great example I like to use to show how big a difference  each era can be is look at Wilt setting the rebou d record with 27.2 per game in 1961.

    That year there were 146 rebounds available  in the average NBA game.

    When Shaq won his first title in 2000 there was 86 rebounds available  in the average game.

    Now how can you compare the rebound totals to each other, impossible.

    How could Shaq come even remotely close to 27 rebounds  a game with only 86 available  ?

    Era's make a huge difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    @theclaw I regard Bill Russell as the NBA GOAT, but the game has changed so drastically that he could never win 11 NBA championships today.  Today's 3-pointers/bombs away/quasi-Horse style of play doesn't provide much of a chance for an inside powerhouse to dominate. Will Victor Wembanyama gain some muscle and win 11 championships?  I am not holding my breath.

     

    Exactly dog .............peace_5

    And why it is so difficult to compare players as they played in different  era with different rules and style of play.

    A great example I like to use to show how big a difference  each era can be is look at Wilt setting the rebou d record with 27.2 per game in 1961.

    That year there were 146 rebounds available  in the average NBA game.

    When Shaq won his first title in 2000 there was 86 rebounds available  in the average game.

    Now how can you compare the rebound totals to each other, impossible.

    How could Shaq come even remotely close to 27 rebounds  a game with only 86 available  ?

    Era's make a huge difference.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by eshady29:

    Teams down 3 - 1 with a single digit spread 46 - 26 - 3 atsand coming off a 1 possesion loss 14 - 1 - 0 ats

     

    Good stuff ...............peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by eshady29:

    Teams down 3 - 1 with a single digit spread 46 - 26 - 3 atsand coming off a 1 possesion loss 14 - 1 - 0 ats

     

    Good stuff ...............peace_5

     
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    peace_5

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    peace_5

     
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    I broke down the 1991 Bulls Playoff Only PR, the first title won by MJ and Bulls..........

    73.15..... 5th best of all teams i have done at this point.

    And 11.96 better then the Lakers.

    That makes now 4 Teams over 10 pts better with all 4 winning by 4-0 or 4-1.

    Will the Knicks make it 5 for 5 Teams tonight ?

    All 4 of the other teams had home court in the finals, Knicks are the first road team to be over 10 pts better.

     

    I still like Spurs tonight ..............an_cheers

     

     

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    I broke down the 1991 Bulls Playoff Only PR, the first title won by MJ and Bulls..........

    73.15..... 5th best of all teams i have done at this point.

    And 11.96 better then the Lakers.

    That makes now 4 Teams over 10 pts better with all 4 winning by 4-0 or 4-1.

    Will the Knicks make it 5 for 5 Teams tonight ?

    All 4 of the other teams had home court in the finals, Knicks are the first road team to be over 10 pts better.

     

    I still like Spurs tonight ..............an_cheers

     

     

     
     
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    Spurs -5 (-120) over Knicks --- 1.2 units

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