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    The Men Who Built America on History Channel

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    LeRinkRat
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2012 - 11:48 AM ET #1

    four part series about how John D. Rockefeller, Cornelius Vanderbilt, Andrew Carnegie, Henry Ford and J.P. Morgan changed America. recorded episode one last night and it really looks good

    episode one repeats Saturday Oct 20th. also on again next Tuesday Oct 23rd followed by episode two

    web page >>> https://www.history.com/shows/men-who-built-america (copy & paste)

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    four part series about how John D. Rockefeller, Cornelius Vanderbilt, Andrew Carnegie, Henry Ford and J.P. Morgan changed America. recorded episode one last night and it really looks good

    episode one repeats Saturday Oct 20th. also on again next Tuesday Oct 23rd followed by episode two

    web page >>> https://www.history.com/shows/men-who-built-america (copy & paste)

     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2012 - 12:54 PM ET #2

    it was awesome. can't wait for nx episode with carnegie. A def much see

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    it was awesome. can't wait for nx episode with carnegie. A def much see

     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2012 - 6:20 PM ET #3

    Will set the dvr for the one I missed and series recording.

    Thanks for posting  I did not see any advertisement on this.

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    Will set the dvr for the one I missed and series recording.

    Thanks for posting  I did not see any advertisement on this.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2012 - 9:20 AM ET #4

    watched it last night and thought it was awesome as well  
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    watched it last night and thought it was awesome as well  
     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2012 - 2:02 PM ET #5

    I think episode 2 about the rise of Andrew Carnegie and the American steel industry could have probably been a 90 minute show. every time they came out of commercial, they spent time re-hashing what had already taken place. the labor problems caused by Henry Clay Frick's "worker pushing", which came to a head with the strike at the Homestead Works, in Pittsburgh was good labor history. makes true the statement that "a union is a monster that management creates".

    the Pinkertons were (and still are) notorious management goons that not only murdered the Homestead Steel worker but also coal miners trying to organize. (ref: the movie Matewan (1987) >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matewan)

    episode 3 sounds like it will not only be about the rise of J P Morgan in finance but also about Thomas Edison vs George Westinghouse in the "War of the Currents". hopefully it won't "drag" as much episode 2

    even for it's faults in episode 2, the series is STILL a great history of 19th and early 20th century American business.

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    I think episode 2 about the rise of Andrew Carnegie and the American steel industry could have probably been a 90 minute show. every time they came out of commercial, they spent time re-hashing what had already taken place. the labor problems caused by Henry Clay Frick's "worker pushing", which came to a head with the strike at the Homestead Works, in Pittsburgh was good labor history. makes true the statement that "a union is a monster that management creates".

    the Pinkertons were (and still are) notorious management goons that not only murdered the Homestead Steel worker but also coal miners trying to organize. (ref: the movie Matewan (1987) >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matewan)

    episode 3 sounds like it will not only be about the rise of J P Morgan in finance but also about Thomas Edison vs George Westinghouse in the "War of the Currents". hopefully it won't "drag" as much episode 2

    even for it's faults in episode 2, the series is STILL a great history of 19th and early 20th century American business.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2012 - 2:47 PM ET #6

    Part one was a great show and will watch the next one this weekend.

    LeRink, I know what you are saying about the recap after commercials. I try to time it coming out of the commercials and pass that duplicate bull shit. There are a lot of shows that do this and it is annoying.

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    Part one was a great show and will watch the next one this weekend.

    LeRink, I know what you are saying about the recap after commercials. I try to time it coming out of the commercials and pass that duplicate bull shit. There are a lot of shows that do this and it is annoying.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2012 - 4:40 PM ET #7

    the shows "first look" at new episodes is on Tuesday nights, Jimmag, IF you want to set your DVR for episode 3 and beyond  
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    the shows "first look" at new episodes is on Tuesday nights, Jimmag, IF you want to set your DVR for episode 3 and beyond  
     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2012 - 11:13 AM ET #8

    "They didn't build that"


    - Obama
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    "They didn't build that"


    - Obama
     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2012 - 12:17 PM ET #9

    H-L please don't bring your political bullshit into this thread. that's a "parsed quote" and anyone with half a brain knows it. it's biggest LIE in the whole damn campaigne

    the entire quote was " Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business—you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen"

    and btw, that comment was about government money paying for infrastructure that EVERYONE uses and ALLOWS businesses to MOVE their PRODUCTS to MARKET like the interstate highway system in the 1950 under a Republican President, Dwight D. Eisenhower. private contractors did the work BUT it was paid for with tax dollars.

     

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    H-L please don't bring your political bullshit into this thread. that's a "parsed quote" and anyone with half a brain knows it. it's biggest LIE in the whole damn campaigne

    the entire quote was " Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business—you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen"

    and btw, that comment was about government money paying for infrastructure that EVERYONE uses and ALLOWS businesses to MOVE their PRODUCTS to MARKET like the interstate highway system in the 1950 under a Republican President, Dwight D. Eisenhower. private contractors did the work BUT it was paid for with tax dollars.

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2012 - 2:49 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by LeRinkRat:

    H-L please don't bring your political bullshit into this thread. that's a "parsed quote" and anyone with half a brain knows it. it's biggest LIE in the whole damn campaigne

    the entire quote was " Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business—you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen"

    and btw, that comment was about government money paying for infrastructure that EVERYONE uses and ALLOWS businesses to MOVE their PRODUCTS to MARKET like the interstate highway system in the 1950 under a Republican President, Dwight D. Eisenhower. private contractors did the work BUT it was paid for with tax dollars.

     




    Political bullshit?  It's called humor, grandpa.  Go drink some prune juice you crochety old fuck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeRinkRat:

    H-L please don't bring your political bullshit into this thread. that's a "parsed quote" and anyone with half a brain knows it. it's biggest LIE in the whole damn campaigne

    the entire quote was " Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business—you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen"

    and btw, that comment was about government money paying for infrastructure that EVERYONE uses and ALLOWS businesses to MOVE their PRODUCTS to MARKET like the interstate highway system in the 1950 under a Republican President, Dwight D. Eisenhower. private contractors did the work BUT it was paid for with tax dollars.

     




    Political bullshit?  It's called humor, grandpa.  Go drink some prune juice you crochety old fuck.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2012 - 12:17 AM ET #11

    Damn good show. Watched both episodes. Very informative and provides a nice history lesson of how the country developed. 
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    Damn good show. Watched both episodes. Very informative and provides a nice history lesson of how the country developed. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2012 - 1:58 PM ET #12

    Go drink some prune juice you crochety old fuck.

    Ummm!!! Dr Pepper!!! good old Texas Prune Juice!!!

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    Go drink some prune juice you crochety old fuck.

    Ummm!!! Dr Pepper!!! good old Texas Prune Juice!!!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2012 - 1:05 PM ET #13

    Episode 3 about J P Morgan was pretty interesting. I knew he was involved with bankrolling Thomas Edison BUT didn't know he forced Edison out of General Electric. didn't realise that Nikola Tesla once worked for Edison. I DID know that he got SCREWED financially when he gave up his alternating current patents while working for George Westinghouse 

    looking forward to Episode 4 with Teddy Roosevelt vs John D. Rockefeller.

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    Episode 3 about J P Morgan was pretty interesting. I knew he was involved with bankrolling Thomas Edison BUT didn't know he forced Edison out of General Electric. didn't realise that Nikola Tesla once worked for Edison. I DID know that he got SCREWED financially when he gave up his alternating current patents while working for George Westinghouse 

    looking forward to Episode 4 with Teddy Roosevelt vs John D. Rockefeller.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2012 - 3:45 PM ET #14

    Got to watch # 2 last night in between the trick and treating. Bad blood between Rockafeller and Carnegie. Sad the way Johnstown got hit with the flood it was the largest US tradgedy until the terrorist attacks on 9-11. Saw the preview to # 3 and it is waiting for me to watch which is going to be soon. Great series.
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    Got to watch # 2 last night in between the trick and treating. Bad blood between Rockafeller and Carnegie. Sad the way Johnstown got hit with the flood it was the largest US tradgedy until the terrorist attacks on 9-11. Saw the preview to # 3 and it is waiting for me to watch which is going to be soon. Great series.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2012 - 11:47 PM ET #15

    Man,  there's to much good stuff to keep up sometimes. Especially trying to bet NCAA games. I saw the 1st "Built America" show but am gonna have to catch up.  I've always been interested in Nic Tesla. Never seen what I thought was a thorough Doc on that guy. Sounds like he got screwed around and robbed but want to know more.
    GL,    Doc
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    Man,  there's to much good stuff to keep up sometimes. Especially trying to bet NCAA games. I saw the 1st "Built America" show but am gonna have to catch up.  I've always been interested in Nic Tesla. Never seen what I thought was a thorough Doc on that guy. Sounds like he got screwed around and robbed but want to know more.
    GL,    Doc
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2012 - 4:37 PM ET #16

    Nikola Tesla is probably the most under-rated scientist, physicist and engineer of the 20th century. his list of inventions goes well beyond the commercial development of alternating current.

    the closest modern "genius who got screwed" I can compare Tesla to is Gary Kildall the original developer of the CP/M compuer operating program which Bill Gates bought for a $75,000 one time payment and relabled MS-DOS. Gates became the richist man on the world and Kindall died at age 52 a bitter alcoholic.

    Wikipage >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla

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    Nikola Tesla is probably the most under-rated scientist, physicist and engineer of the 20th century. his list of inventions goes well beyond the commercial development of alternating current.

    the closest modern "genius who got screwed" I can compare Tesla to is Gary Kildall the original developer of the CP/M compuer operating program which Bill Gates bought for a $75,000 one time payment and relabled MS-DOS. Gates became the richist man on the world and Kindall died at age 52 a bitter alcoholic.

    Wikipage >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla

     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2012 - 3:11 AM ET #17

    for some reason (maybe the election?) the final episode (4) is NOT on Tuesday Nov 6th BUT History Channel is runing all four episodes, including the finale (4), on Sunday Nov 11th.
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    for some reason (maybe the election?) the final episode (4) is NOT on Tuesday Nov 6th BUT History Channel is runing all four episodes, including the finale (4), on Sunday Nov 11th.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2012 - 1:40 PM ET #18

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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2012 - 7:55 AM ET #19

    Rat,  I think I have the last 3 episodes TVo'ed so they are around somewhere. I want to watch the 1st one again some time. Really good.

    I've heard the 30/30 episode on ESPN about the Ol Miss team (60's) and the admission of J. Meredith is one of the best they have done. Lot's of stuff I never knew. Looking forward to TVOing that. Most the 30/30's have been interesting. Glad they are doing it another season.

    This is the wrong forum  to say this but some of the best drama I've seen on TV in a long time is running on Fox News since the election. It's like one of those Mexican Novelas. The crying and theatrics are priceless.  I know, wrong forum.

    GL,    Doc
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    Rat,  I think I have the last 3 episodes TVo'ed so they are around somewhere. I want to watch the 1st one again some time. Really good.

    I've heard the 30/30 episode on ESPN about the Ol Miss team (60's) and the admission of J. Meredith is one of the best they have done. Lot's of stuff I never knew. Looking forward to TVOing that. Most the 30/30's have been interesting. Glad they are doing it another season.

    This is the wrong forum  to say this but some of the best drama I've seen on TV in a long time is running on Fox News since the election. It's like one of those Mexican Novelas. The crying and theatrics are priceless.  I know, wrong forum.

    GL,    Doc
     
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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2012 - 2:05 PM ET #20

    watched episode 4 and it was interesting that at one time the group "A.L.A.M" (the Association of Licensed Automobile
    Manufacturers) had a patient on automobile manufacturing. they also said that Standard Oil was split into 34 different companies. I though it was 6 with the Standard Oils of Ohio, Indiana, New Jersey and California with Esso and Mobil being Standard's international operations.

    IF you missed any of the episodes, all four repeat on Thursday November 15th 

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    watched episode 4 and it was interesting that at one time the group "A.L.A.M" (the Association of Licensed Automobile
    Manufacturers) had a patient on automobile manufacturing. they also said that Standard Oil was split into 34 different companies. I though it was 6 with the Standard Oils of Ohio, Indiana, New Jersey and California with Esso and Mobil being Standard's international operations.

    IF you missed any of the episodes, all four repeat on Thursday November 15th 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2012 - 3:02 AM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by KillEmAllAgain:

    I didn't know any of these men existed(honestly) and having sat through all of them..... I cant help but to sit through all of them again. One of the best series History has shown

    not to offend BUT perhaps you should record them to DVD and give them to your High School History teacher? he or she obviously didn't cover US history very well IF you have never heard of at LEAST Rockefeller, Ford or Edison   

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillEmAllAgain:

    I didn't know any of these men existed(honestly) and having sat through all of them..... I cant help but to sit through all of them again. One of the best series History has shown

    not to offend BUT perhaps you should record them to DVD and give them to your High School History teacher? he or she obviously didn't cover US history very well IF you have never heard of at LEAST Rockefeller, Ford or Edison   

     
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    It's on again and I finally got to watch it.  
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    It's on again and I finally got to watch it.  
     
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    just finished watching Henry Ford on the PBS series American Experience. great man BUT he definately had his flaws. he was virally anti semitic and once published a paper titled "The International person: The World's Problem" and treated his only son Edsel like garbage while he was alive. he WAS, however, an early industrialist who didn't exploit his labor and was the first to pay a living wage knowing that they would then be able to buy his cars and make him even MORE profit.

    it's available online @ https://video.pbs.org/video/2329934360 

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    just finished watching Henry Ford on the PBS series American Experience. great man BUT he definately had his flaws. he was virally anti semitic and once published a paper titled "The International person: The World's Problem" and treated his only son Edsel like garbage while he was alive. he WAS, however, an early industrialist who didn't exploit his labor and was the first to pay a living wage knowing that they would then be able to buy his cars and make him even MORE profit.

    it's available online @ https://video.pbs.org/video/2329934360 

     
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    OK, that's "The International J E W" not "person"
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    OK, that's "The International J E W" not "person"
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeRinkRat:

    not to offend BUT perhaps you should record them to DVD and give them to your High School History teacher? he or she obviously didn't cover US history very well IF you have never heard of at LEAST Rockefeller, Ford or Edison   

    No kidding!  Names like Vanderbilt (i.e. the university), Ford (i.e. the automobile), Edison (man had thousands of patents), and JP Morgan (i.e. still half the financial institutions today hold his name or a part thereof) have to be known just by living.  I loved this series too and I have watched each part more than once.  I loved how they interwove the stories together (meaning everying is connected).  Makes me wonder if the reason I say FRICK instread of F U C K is due to Henry Frick!  I know that is not the case but I am certain most people who ran into Henry Frick in a non social setting were saying Oh FRICK!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeRinkRat:

    not to offend BUT perhaps you should record them to DVD and give them to your High School History teacher? he or she obviously didn't cover US history very well IF you have never heard of at LEAST Rockefeller, Ford or Edison   

    No kidding!  Names like Vanderbilt (i.e. the university), Ford (i.e. the automobile), Edison (man had thousands of patents), and JP Morgan (i.e. still half the financial institutions today hold his name or a part thereof) have to be known just by living.  I loved this series too and I have watched each part more than once.  I loved how they interwove the stories together (meaning everying is connected).  Makes me wonder if the reason I say FRICK instread of F U C K is due to Henry Frick!  I know that is not the case but I am certain most people who ran into Henry Frick in a non social setting were saying Oh FRICK!

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