Moneyball (2011)

Trailer

Aaron Sorkin + Brad Pitt + Philip Seymour Hoffman + Jonah Hill (in a non-comedy movie) + Baseball =

Will probably read the book before the movie comes out.

It looks very promising...

looks good...and I've heard great things about the book, but haven't read it 

i can't believe they would actually make a movie about baseball and think it will do well i think there gonna take a loss on this one but i'm sure the sports degens will like it

What's the release date?

Seems like this movie has been in "the making" for years

Billy Beane is so overrated its a joke. His teams never won anything. They used to run the bases like teeball teams. They had the worst fundamentals of any teams you ever wanted to watch. They won 1 playoff series with this guy as the GM.

Ill go see it I guess but its a joke they made a movie about him

Trailer makes it look okay if you dont know anything about the subject

sports movies often crash and burn and its hard to see moviegoers rushing out to see this one and at the end of the day, beane didnt really get anywhere, the best the a's did was make it past the first round of the playoffs once

Really liked the book, but I think the movie flops

Clearly you didn't get the premise of the book if you actually read it.

Beane's paradigm into how to run a baseball team is genius. The A's made the playoffs five times between 2000 and 2006. ALL WHILE HAVING A PAYROLL OF ROUGHLY 1/5 THE YANKEES PAYROLL!!!!!!

Read the fucking book and pay attention to it and you might understand why he is one of the best GM's in the game. This isn't Hockey, Football, or Basketball. There is no payroll except what your owner dictates you can spend. The Yankees are willing to spend $200+ million on their team. A's ownership is only willing to spend $40 million or so. So Bean has 1/5 the room to work with as Brian Cashman does. But he was STILL able to make the playoffs.

Once you get to the playoffs it's just a matter of getting hot, getting breaks, making plays. It's a much smaller sample size than the regular season. Basically anything can happen in the playoffs.

The book is great. It's not just about Baseball though. It's about finding more effective ways of operating in an industry. It's also about thinking outside of the box and becoming efficient. Baseball just gives the setting.

Maybe if they didnt run the bases like fucking idiots they wouldve won some playoff rounds..that play in Boston where Tejada stopped between 3rd and home. That play in Oakland vs NY where Giambi doesnt slide and lets Jeters flip throw him out... I could go on and on.

Also the "a walk is as good as a hit" concept has been around FOREVER and they act like Billy Beane invented it

You know why he made the playoffs those years? He had Hudson Mulder and Zito.

Since when has a GM had anything to do with the players running the bases? How do two base running mistakes make Beane a bad GM? Can you name a GM in baseball with a similar payroll in baseball that has had as much success in baseball as Beane has. In fact payroll aside, name a GM that has had that much success. Beane was the first GM to use sabremetrics and apply it to front office use. And where do you think Soto, Mulder,

Sorry my phone is being erratic today. To finish my last sentence....and where do you think Zito, Mulder, and Hudson all cane from? They didn't just fall out of the sky.

The Twins won 2 world series I dont recall them having a big payroll either year  but that was waaaaay back

The Marlins 2nd Title they did not have a big payroll that's fairly recent...25th highest

The White Sox and Cardinals were both middle of the pack as far as payroll when they won

You cant discount payroll because I can say the Yankees had more success and end the argument, obviously there is a disparity in payrolls and those teams can afford mistakes unlike Beane and other GMs but I do think he is overrated.

I will go see the movie though.

The twins won both world series when teams weren't blowing each other out of the water with payroll. They certainly weren't the highest, but I would be willing to bet they didn't match up with a team in the playoffs that had a payroll of 5 times the twins payroll.

The Marlins

Sorry this phone sucks......

The Marlins world series was legit....then they let some good players go and haven't done anything since. Caught lightning in a bottle. Cards and White Sox still spend decent money on teams.

You just can't discount how many times the A's made the playoffs last decade without giving credit to Beane. The book even addresses why his teams struggled in the playoffs. Look at the Atlanta Braves of the 90's, all those division titles and only one world series championship. It doesn't make their teams bad or Bobby Cox a bad manager.

Ask Pirates fans if they would want Beane running their team.

Braves didnt win because their pitchers (Maddux) was usually awful in a big spots

The point is Beane put his organization in a spot to be successful considering the payroll the owner allows him to use.

It's about efficiency. He gets more wins per dollar spent on payroll than just about any GM. He is not overated. Read the book and it just might open your eyes.

I dont want to read that book...I can see the movie

I see your point. I still think he is overrated in the sense that they act like hes the first guy to ever want guys that get on base. I do think he has to take some blame for a team with terrible fundamentals. He hires the managers

I learned my lesson in the book vs. movie argument when "Friday Night Lights" come on the big screen.

That movie strayed so far from the truth it was rediculous. I understand movies leaving some things out due to time constraints. But to just blantently change major scenes, settings, and character personalities is just wrong.

I enjoy movies but I take them with a grain of salt these days.

been wanting to read the book but would rather watch a film or better yet documentary about it...btw this movie has explosions in the sky in it!!!  (austin,tx represent)  they should be in every other movie...screw the vid, just listen..

I'm only 29. I honestly didn't really start reading books that became movies until a few years ago. Call me behind the curve if you will, but it is what it is.

Believe me, I don't think any Dan Brown book should EVER have been made into a movie. People are just asking for disasters with those.

Read the book. This book really does translate to more than just baseball. It's really more about thinking outside of the box. It could be applied to a lot of aspects of life.