The bottom line here is that there's value on Cleveland IMO.
Two good young pitchers who essentially went through their rookie seasons last year. Each pitcher trended in a different direction in the second half, with Moore really improving and McAllister looking gassed:
First Half/Second Half FIPs:
Moore: 4.46/3.25
McAllister: 3.09/4.43
As a result, Moore is a hot young pitcher on the upswing, but McAllister is an afterthought. But taking a closer look at McAllister, as the season went on, although his average velocity was more or less constant, his velocity variation increased, suggesting he had a hard time maintaining pitch velocity over the course of the season. Perhaps his poor second half numbers were more a conditioning problem than the league catching up to him. Either way he seems to be worth a flyer at this price at the beginning of the season. It's also worth noting McAllister control has looked good this spring 12/5 SO/BB when compared to Moore 20/14. Finally, the Indians offense? Not that bad, especially when compared with TB.
BOL out there.
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Recap:
Guthrie (KC) +115 @ Floyd (CHW) = WIN
Wood (CHC) +130 @ McDonald (PIT) = WIN
Dempster (BOS) @ Pettitte (NYY) -116 = WIN
Record:
4-0 (+4.40)
Nice start on posted plays.
Adding one to start, will likely add later:
McAllister (CLE) +156 @ Moore (TB)
The bottom line here is that there's value on Cleveland IMO.
Two good young pitchers who essentially went through their rookie seasons last year. Each pitcher trended in a different direction in the second half, with Moore really improving and McAllister looking gassed:
First Half/Second Half FIPs:
Moore: 4.46/3.25
McAllister: 3.09/4.43
As a result, Moore is a hot young pitcher on the upswing, but McAllister is an afterthought. But taking a closer look at McAllister, as the season went on, although his average velocity was more or less constant, his velocity variation increased, suggesting he had a hard time maintaining pitch velocity over the course of the season. Perhaps his poor second half numbers were more a conditioning problem than the league catching up to him. Either way he seems to be worth a flyer at this price at the beginning of the season. It's also worth noting McAllister control has looked good this spring 12/5 SO/BB when compared to Moore 20/14. Finally, the Indians offense? Not that bad, especially when compared with TB.
Honestly, pretty nervous betting on dead arm Miley, who pitched a not-so-whopping 13.1 innings this spring with poor control. And he got shelled in his only start at Miller last year. So yeah, if this doesn't work out, I'll look back at these points and think I'm an idiot. But,
- Lohse didn't have a spring at all
- Lohse way outpitched his peripherals last year (2.86 ERA, 3.51 FIP)
- Lohse pitched in front of a better defense last year
- Lohse has also sucked at Miller
And,
- MIL bullpen has started off worse than ARI (1.50 v 1.04 WHIP)
- If Axford hasn't been removed from the closer role yet, then if ARI is down a few runs late, MIL will basically let them right back in it
- For all the small sample size hate on Miley, he was actually pretty good last year, with 2.86/3.45 home/road FIPs
- Although both offenses have looked good, gun to the head I'm going with ARI
BOL to the forum
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Adding:
Miley (ARI) +127 @ Lohse (MIL)
Honestly, pretty nervous betting on dead arm Miley, who pitched a not-so-whopping 13.1 innings this spring with poor control. And he got shelled in his only start at Miller last year. So yeah, if this doesn't work out, I'll look back at these points and think I'm an idiot. But,
- Lohse didn't have a spring at all
- Lohse way outpitched his peripherals last year (2.86 ERA, 3.51 FIP)
- Lohse pitched in front of a better defense last year
- Lohse has also sucked at Miller
And,
- MIL bullpen has started off worse than ARI (1.50 v 1.04 WHIP)
- If Axford hasn't been removed from the closer role yet, then if ARI is down a few runs late, MIL will basically let them right back in it
- For all the small sample size hate on Miley, he was actually pretty good last year, with 2.86/3.45 home/road FIPs
- Although both offenses have looked good, gun to the head I'm going with ARI
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