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Posted: #501
 Giani   what don't you understand
Morn guys
well upon review i went 5-2-1 overall i believe if incorrect don't bash me as we all are human and lets be truthful as all this is a guessing game what these guys will do
the important losses were Greinke as i really though he was the best play for the day

Wainwright in 5 and the over in 9 came thru exactly as i expected so all was not lost in how i cap my games

My overs were disappointing with Nyy and detroit games as the starters did much better than i ever expected when you review their past performances of which i gage everything 
Atlanta game came thru as expected
Laa game also
Royals Gm also
Mets gm Under also
In the end i lost both parlays going 5-2-1 or 5/3 not good so i'm on to today as i'm on more RL plays today




 
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Posted: #502
Starters that have my attention today
Harvey
Ryu
Cahill
Liriano
Lee
Kuroda
Jiminez
Wilson
Shields
Sale
my problem is who will disappoint me today
 
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When you choose F5 be more specific I am not complaining just hard to follow for me thanks
 
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This is the Runs allowed by all starters inning 1-5 as almost all starters pitch the first 5 full innings and further depending on their pitch count as we all know,These #'s reflect what they allowed in all their starts to date in 5 innings

For me the # is a good # if runs allowed do not pass 2 runs,anything above a 2 is bad and posted in black

These starters show the best to continue to allow the least # of runs and the longer they do not allow a 3 or above they get my play and the longer they don't allow a 3 i play them more than the others.Now if their team does not support them that IMO is not their fault should they lose
If you review the # of games and the record of starter you can pick out the starter that should best continue to pitch well and poss win if gets team support

These Starters show the best opportunity to win in 5 inn today and in most cases SHOULD win in 9 if pen and team supports their effort when reviewed against their opposition

Harvey 1-5 inn 0-1-0-0-1-1-0-2-2 ( 9 games and only 2 RA)
Ryu 1-5 inn 1-2-1-2-0-1-4-0-2
Cahill 1-5 inn1-4-0-3-1-0-2-1-0
Liriano 1-5 inn 0-1 ( 2 starts)
Lee 1-5 inn 0-3-0-5-0-5-1-0-0
Kuroda 1-5 inn 1-5 6-3-0-0-3-0-0-1-0
Jiminez 1-5 inn 1-7-7-2-0-1-1-1
Wilson 1-5 inn 4-4-1-3-1-2-6-0-1
Shields 1-5 inn 1-4-1-0-3-2-0-3-0
Sale 1-5 inn 0-2-9-3-2-2-1-0-0
add one Gonzalez 1-5 0-1-7-5-1-8-1-0-2
 
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 Starters i will play in 5 inn are posted in BOLD and the longer they post a 1 i like them more

Harvey 1-5 inn 0-1-0-0-1-1-0-2-2 ( 9 games and only 2 RA at most)
Ryu 1-5 inn 1-2-1-2-0-1-4-0-2 Ryu (0-2)  see note below
Cahill 1-5 inn1-4-0-3-1-0-2-1-0 Cahill (1-0)
Liriano 1-5 inn 0-1 ( 2 starts) ( Liriano (0-1)
Lee 1-5 inn 0-3-0-5-0-5-1-0-0 (Lee 1-0-0)
Kuroda 1-5 inn 1-5 6-3-0-0-3-0-0-1-0 Kuroda (0-0-1-0)
Jiminez 1-5 inn 1-7-7-2-0-1-1-1 (Jiminez (0-1-1-1)
Wilson 1-5 inn 4-4-1-3-1-2-6-0-1 ( Wilson 0-1)
Shields 1-5 inn 1-4-1-0-3-2-0-3-0 Shields (0)  ( see below)
Sale 1-5 inn 0-2-9-3-2-2-1-0-0 Sale ( 1-0-0)
Gonzalez 1-5 inn 0-1-7-5-1-8-1-0-2 Playing him due to Bumgarners record 1-5 inn  0-1-0-2-0-0-5-1-9

Ryu much better than opposition Peralta in 5 inn 4-1-6-2-2-1-4-7

Shields i will be playing in 9 inn as his opposition is much worse in 9 than 5 inn

9 inn Shields 1-8-3-4-3-2-2-3-2 vs Lyles 7-6-12-8


 
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Now regarding plays in 9 inn 

Most of the starters i like in 5 i will also play in 9 and especially if the juice is high and if so i will play them on the RL to reduce the juice

As i have noted all their runs allowed in 5 inn i also have what their runs allowed with pen have been for game,Starters on right have piched well thru 9 full inn with and without pen

Harvey 9 inn 4-2-2-0-3-4               -0-3-2 ( runs of 3 and below are good)
Ryu 9 inn 3-2-5-7-2-2-4-1-8
Cahill 9 inn 6-5-0-4-                       2-2-2-3-2 ( 5 great games)
Liriano 9 inn                                       2-1
Lee 9 inn 0-3-4-5-6-6-                     2-1-3
Kuroda 9 inn 7-6-0-3-3-4                 -2-2-0
Jiminez 9 inn 2-11-7-4-0-3-6               -3
Wilson 9 inn 5-9-1-3-3-4-7                -3-3
Shields 9 inn 1-8-3-4-                       3-2-2-3-2 (5 great games)
Sale 9 inn 0-3 -9-                              3-2-2-1-0-0 ( 6 great games)
Gonzalez 9 inn 1-7-9-6-1-8-2-2-5
I will play all these Starters on RL if juice is against them as they should win by 2 or more with these pitching performances
 
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Now My plays( If Starter has Juice i will be on the RL) in 9 inn
Ryu to win in 5 inn
Cahill to win in 5 and 9 inn
Gonzalez to win in 5 inn
Liriano /Samardzia gm under in 5 and 9
lee in 5 and 9
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Rays gm over with these two Hellickson/Buehrle in 9 inn
Jiminez to win in 5 inn ( Verlander not good of late )
If Verlander can bring his a game the under should easily win
but can he as his last 2 starts are very bad 7-10 RA in 9 inn

Kuroda will win this in 5 and 9 I have no faith in Hammell

Ditto for Wilson as Maurer is that bad 7-4-6 RA last 3 starts in 9 inn 

Sale should Prevail in 5 and 9


Shields should win in 9 easily

 
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Posted: #509
there you have my thoughts 

GL in your selections
 
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Posted: #510
Sale is scratched Steve.

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Harvey 1-5 inn 0-1-0-0-1-1-0-2-2 ( PUSH) 2-2
Ryu 1-5 inn 1-2-1-2-0-1-4-0-2 Ryu (0-2)  see note below
Cahill 1-5 inn1-4-0-3-1-0-2-1-0 Cahill (1-0)allows 4
Liriano 1-5 inn 0-1 ( 2 starts) ( Liriano (0-1)
Lee 1-5 inn 0-3-0-5-0-5-1-0-0 (Lee 1-0-0)
Kuroda 1-5 inn 1-5 6-3-0-0-3-0-0-1-0 Kuroda (0-0-1-0)
Jiminez 1-5 inn 1-7-7-2-0-1-1-1 (Jiminez (0-1-1-1)
Wilson 1-5 inn 4-4-1-3-1-2-6-0-1 ( Wilson 0-1)
Shields 1-5 inn 1-4-1-0-3-2-0-3-0 Shields (0)  ( see below)
Sale Cancel sale PC Change
Gonzalez 1-5 inn 0-1-7-5-1-8-1-0-2 Playing him due to Bumgarners record 1-5 inn  0-1-0-2-0-0-5-1-9

 
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Harvey 9 inn 4-2-2-0-3-4  -0-3-2 ( runs of 3 and below are good) he and pen allow 7 runs
Ryu 9 inn 3-2-5-7-2-2-4-1-8
Cahill 9 inn 6-5-0-4-                2-2-2-3-2 ( 5 great games)
Liriano 9 inn                              2-1
Lee 9 inn 0-3-4-5-6-6-              2-1-3
Kuroda 9 inn 7-6-0-3-3-4          -2-2-0
Jiminez 9 inn 2-11-7-4-0-3-6    -3
Wilson 9 inn 5-9-1-3-3-4-7      -3-3
Shields 9 inn 1-8-3-4-             3-2-2-3-2 (5 great games)
Sale 9 inn Pitcher change
Gonzalez 9 inn 1-7-9-6-1-8-2-2-5
 
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Going to put a RL parlay together all in 9 inn

Lee
Kuroda
Wilson
Shields
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adding Jiminez but in 5 inn
all married to tomorrow's plays (Starters to be Named)
Boston GM Over ( Dempster/Mc Callister) line is 9.5
Royals Gm  Santana -145 to win in  9 but will take it on the RL
Detroit ( Porcello) - 180 more against Diamond and his past 2 starts in 9 inn  (6-12) will take Porcello on the RL to reduce juice

 GL in your selections

 
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Posted: #514
Pitchers not showing up t -nite

Now My plays( If Starter has Juice i will be on the RL) in 9 inn
Ryu to win in 5 inn
Cahill to win in 5 and 9 inn

Gonzalez to win in 5 inn PUSH
Liriano /Samardzia gm under in 5 and 9 Pending
lee in 5 and 9 Pending
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Rays gm over with these two Hellickson/Buehrle in 9 inn only 7
Jiminez to win in 5 inn ( Verlander not good of late )
If Verlander can bring his a game the under should easily win
Verlander was not the problem t nite
Kuroda will win this in 5 and 9 I have no faith in Hammell 
as they say when looks too easy it probably is

Ditto for Wilson as Maurer is that bad 7-4-6 RA last 3 starts in 9 inn 
Wilson easy  why him and not the rest
Shields should win in 9 easily Pending 

 
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Sister in law visiting and posted under her handle Stevo1
 
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What a disappointing day yesterday

Kuroda allows 6 runs in F5 
Cahill allows 4 runs in F5
Jiminez allows 11 runs in F5
Shields just allows 2 in F5 but Lyles allows just 1 run 

Gonzalez gets a push in F5 and a W in 9
Lee gets a shutout for game
Ryu only allows 2 runs in F5 and no more for the game
Wilson allows 0 runs thru F5 and just 1 run for game

No way Kuroda should had pitched that bad
No way Lyles could pitch that good
 
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5 games today and mot much to play even for a degenerate so like a lot of people taking the morning off and will try and put something together later with tomorrows plays as there is not much today although gas can Blanton is pitching for LAA and as good as they are i can't see them winning this contest with him on the mound
Blanton RA in 9 inn 5-11-8-7-3-3-11-9
no wonder the line is 9
Santana RA in 9 inn 5-1-2-2-2-4-4-2
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Mc Callister 9 inn 4-4-6-3-2-0-3-4
Dempster 9 innin 4-8-2-4-3-1-6-12
Hows this not an Over
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Diamond has been ugly his last 2 Starts thru 9 inn with 6-12
where as Porcello has been better of late L 3 9 inn 3-4-1
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Like i said not much here today when compared to tomorrow
Zimmerman in 9 inn 1-2-3-2-0-0-1-2-2 (13 RA in 81 Inn of pitching) pretty damn good
 
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Results

Blanton RA in 9 inn 5-11-8-7-3-3-11-9only a 4
no wonder the line is 9
Santana RA in 9 inn 5-1-2-2-2-4-4-2-5 
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Mc Callister 9 inn 4-4-6-3-2-0-3-4-6
Dempster 9 innin 4-8-2-4-3-1-6-12-another 12
Hows this not an Over
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Diamond has been ugly his last 2 Starts thru 9 inn with 6-12-7
where as Porcello has been better of late L 3 9 inn 3-4-1-6
Can't trust either of these two 13 runs
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Like i said not much here today when compared to tomorrow
Zimmerman in 9 inn 1-2-3-2-0-0-1-2-2 (13 RA in 81 Inn of pitching) pretty damn good
 
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As said even a degenerate had problems wagering yesterday

Kendrick RA 1-5 inn   2-2-0-1-0-1-2-2-3    ????
Kendrick RA   -9 inn 13-3-1-3-0-2-2-2-10  ????
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Zimmerman RA 1-5 inn 1-1-0-2-0-0-1-1-1
Zimmerman RA  -9 inn 1-2-3-2-0-0-1-2-2
Zimmerman gets my play in both 5 and 9 inn
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Medlen RA 1-5 inn 2-1-2-2-5-3-2-5-1
Medlen RA   -9 inn 2-2-3-4-7-3-5-5-1
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Hefner 1-5 inn 1-5-6-1-0-4-3-5
Hefner   -9 inn 7-7-7-3-2-6-6-8
Medlen or the Over for me in 5 and 9
Line is 7.5  So hefner is going to pitch a shutout today
 to be continued
 
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Feldman 1-5 inn 4-7-4-1-0-0-1-0 ( great L5)
Feldman    9 inn 4-7-4-2-2-2-1-2 ( Ditto)
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Arroyo 1-5 inn 3-0-0-2-6-0-4-0-0
Arroyo    9 inn 4-5-2-2-8-2-7-1-0
Line is 8( Under in 5 and 9 for me)
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Burnett 1-5 inn 2-1-2-0-2-2-1-3-1
Burnett    9 inn 3-1-5-0-3-3-1-5-4 
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Estrada 1-5 inn 4-2-3-3-2-5-8-0-2 ( can he continue)???
Estrada    9 inn 8-4-3-4-2-8-10-1-4
Line is 8 Leaning under in F 5

 
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1ST 5 OVER HEFNER LOOKS STRONG!
 
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Stults 1-5 inn 0-4-3-5-7-0-1-1-0
Stults 9 inn    1-4-3-5-7-2-1-3-1
Last 4 starts look good
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Mc Carthy 1-5 inn 4-6-3-3-5-3-2-0-0 ( can this continue)
Mc Carthy 9    inn 9-6-4-4-6-9-3-4-0
Line is 9 Like the Under in 5 inn and line is 4.5
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Lynn 1-5 inn  5-1-4-0-0-0-2-3-4
Lynn   9 inn 10-1-6-0-1-2-2-3-6
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Capuano 1-5 inn 6-6-0-0
Capuano    9 inn 9-9-3-3 
Capuano in 5 inn ???
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Chattwood 1-5 inn 3-0-1
Chatwood     9 inn 5-2-2
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Lincecum 1-5 inn 2-6-4-0-2-5-4-0 -6
Lincecum    9 inn 3-6-7-0-2-6-6-1-10
Chattwood for me in 5 and 9 ( Lincecum too erratic for me)
or the Over
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First start for Dedundo and Nolin   i do not play starters on first start my rule
nothing to base their pitching on and i do not value past performances
so pass the first 2 games for me
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But i do like Tillman's pitching this year as his last 6 starts are outstanding,so maybe a shot with the under hoping Nolin can get thru the first 5 inn b4 they catch up with him 
Tillman 1-5 inn 5-2-4-0-2-0-1-1-2
Tillman    9 inn 6-2-6 1-3-1-3-3-3
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Sanchez worries me as too inconsistent so will pass the other play
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Masterson 1-5 inn 1-0-0-4-2-4-2-3-0-0
Masterson 9    inn 1-0-0-6-2-9-6-3-0-0-
2 shutouts in last 2 starts
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Lackey 1-5 inn 2-1-3-1-5-1(so what lackey shows up today
Lackey    9 inn 5-1-5-5-5-1
Masterson for me in both 5 and 9 inn
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Phelps 1-5 inn 4-2-1-1
Phelps    9 inn 4-2-1-2
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Hernandez 1-5 inn 2-4-3-1-4-1-2-6 ( too erratic for me)
Hernandez    9 inn 6-6-5-1-5-6-2-6 ( Ditto)
Phelps in 5 and 9 for me
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Vargus 1-5 inn 1-1-7-0-0-0-3-1-0
Vargus    9 inn 3-8-8-4-2-0-5-2-2
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Mendoza 1-5 inn 1-5-6-5-1
Mendoza    9 inn 4-8-8-5-5
Vargus in 9 inn for me
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Milone 1-5 inn 2-4-1-4-0-2-1-5-1
Milone    9 inn 2-5-2-8-3-5-1-6-1
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Bedard 1-5 inn 2-  6-3-6-4-1-1
Bedard    9 inn 9-11-5-7-5-8-2 ( Can he be trusted???)
Line is 8.5 ( Pass this Play ) too ??????
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Grimm 1-5 inn 2-2-0-5-4-2
Grimm    9 inn 3-3-3-6-5-2
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Saunders 1-5 inn 4-0-0-7  -5-2  -7-1-2
Saunders    9 inn 6-0-3-7-10-2 10-1-5
Both too erratic for me pass


 
 
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