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    2013 MLB 5 inn and 9 inn Thread

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    stevo1
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2013 - 7:00 PM ET #1

    Had a great ST for 2013
    Thanks to 
    Royals 21-3-1
    Seattle 16-8-0
    On to 2013 MLB Season

    Starters that are starting their 1st start for 2013 and their 1st start of past years regardless of team they were with,This should give us some insight what to expect in days going forward of starter
    Sunday 03/31
    Texas 
    Runs allowed ,Harrison Last 3 years 1st start
     Year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 0/0/0
    2011 0/1/1
    2010 1/3/4
    Astro's
    Runs allowed Norris
     year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 2/0/2
    2011 5/2/7
    2010 7/1/8
     according to these past records it appears as the logical winner will be Harrison
    Once we get into 3 games i will eliminate past years and just post current, once we get a feel of starters abilities 

    Under is looking good too in 5 and 9


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    Had a great ST for 2013
    Thanks to 
    Royals 21-3-1
    Seattle 16-8-0
    On to 2013 MLB Season

    Starters that are starting their 1st start for 2013 and their 1st start of past years regardless of team they were with,This should give us some insight what to expect in days going forward of starter
    Sunday 03/31
    Texas 
    Runs allowed ,Harrison Last 3 years 1st start
     Year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 0/0/0
    2011 0/1/1
    2010 1/3/4
    Astro's
    Runs allowed Norris
     year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 2/0/2
    2011 5/2/7
    2010 7/1/8
     according to these past records it appears as the logical winner will be Harrison
    Once we get into 3 games i will eliminate past years and just post current, once we get a feel of starters abilities 

    Under is looking good too in 5 and 9


     
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    good luck
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    Thread requirement is the Starter is responsible for the complete game regardless of time in game and will get the W or L just as we who wager on it get a W or L on our wager Ties in 5 inn are just that Pushes





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    steveo; charging a starter with a loss if he was ahead or tied at 5 innings seems a little severe. That would make him responsible for bullpen performance he had no control over. Why not keep your record as 5 innings or whenever he exited the game? If you are playing 5 innings, which I do too, that would seem to be more indicative of probable future performance. Just my 2 cents worth. BOL of course, we are in this together to an extent.

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    steveo; charging a starter with a loss if he was ahead or tied at 5 innings seems a little severe. That would make him responsible for bullpen performance he had no control over. Why not keep your record as 5 innings or whenever he exited the game? If you are playing 5 innings, which I do too, that would seem to be more indicative of probable future performance. Just my 2 cents worth. BOL of course, we are in this together to an extent.

     
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    Key to me i tie the starter to my WAGER and i have been doing it for years,even more so to a 5 inn wager as you know i play a lot of 5 inn plays. but if i play a 9 inn wager i place the blame on him as in the long run it normally balances out as in some cases the relievers and team will bail him out of some losses too
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    Key to me i tie the starter to my WAGER and i have been doing it for years,even more so to a 5 inn wager as you know i play a lot of 5 inn plays. but if i play a 9 inn wager i place the blame on him as in the long run it normally balances out as in some cases the relievers and team will bail him out of some losses too
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevo1:

    Key to me i tie the starter to my WAGER and i have been doing it for years,even more so to a 5 inn wager as you know i play a lot of 5 inn plays. but if i play a 9 inn wager i place the blame on him as in the long run it normally balances out as in some cases the relievers and team will bail him out of some losses too
    I really don't know if it evens out in the long run but I do know there are guys I will back 5 innings only because their bullpens and offenses are not good enough to count on for a bail out. Let's both try to get a better feel for that this year. I would be willing to track it stat wise except that I already track so many thing unavailable elsewhere I really don't have the time, but maybe one of your fans would be willing? Never hurts to ask for a volunteer. If (insert name) is already a fan of yours and tailing you he might be willing to do something to help you too.
    Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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    Key to me i tie the starter to my WAGER and i have been doing it for years,even more so to a 5 inn wager as you know i play a lot of 5 inn plays. but if i play a 9 inn wager i place the blame on him as in the long run it normally balances out as in some cases the relievers and team will bail him out of some losses too
    I really don't know if it evens out in the long run but I do know there are guys I will back 5 innings only because their bullpens and offenses are not good enough to count on for a bail out. Let's both try to get a better feel for that this year. I would be willing to track it stat wise except that I already track so many thing unavailable elsewhere I really don't have the time, but maybe one of your fans would be willing? Never hurts to ask for a volunteer. If (insert name) is already a fan of yours and tailing you he might be willing to do something to help you too.
     
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    After thinking about it i usually post both 5 and 9 inn results,although i usually fault the starter for both losses only because they do not always stop pitching after 5 inn although our 5 inn wager stops

    I always record both anyway so i can always break them out easily enough

    Just did  all of Mondays plays and i need to find an easier way as 3 hours is wayyy too much time for this

    I'll go wacky in  2 weeks with all this work
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    After thinking about it i usually post both 5 and 9 inn results,although i usually fault the starter for both losses only because they do not always stop pitching after 5 inn although our 5 inn wager stops

    I always record both anyway so i can always break them out easily enough

    Just did  all of Mondays plays and i need to find an easier way as 3 hours is wayyy too much time for this

    I'll go wacky in  2 weeks with all this work
     
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    Game one on Monday format

    Padres/Volquez
    Runs allowed 
    Year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 3-2-5
    2011 5-1-6 
    2010 only have #'s from July so pass

    Mets/Niese
    Runs allowed 
     year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 0-5-5
    2011 2-0-2
    2010 2-1-3
    Niese appears as the play in 5 inn and over in 9
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    Game one on Monday format

    Padres/Volquez
    Runs allowed 
    Year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 3-2-5
    2011 5-1-6 
    2010 only have #'s from July so pass

    Mets/Niese
    Runs allowed 
     year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 0-5-5
    2011 2-0-2
    2010 2-1-3
    Niese appears as the play in 5 inn and over in 9
     
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    game 2
    Cubs/ Samardzija
    Year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 0-3-3 only one year record

    Pirates/Burnett
    Runs allowed 
     year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 2-4-6
    2011 3-3-6
    2010 4-0-4
     Samardzija appears as the play but just one year,maybe pass

    game 3
    Rockies/Chacin
    Runs allowed 
    Year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 7-0-7
    2011 0-0-0
    2010 0-1-1

    Brewers/Gallardo
    Runs allowed 
     year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 1-0-1
    2011 2-5-7
    2010 4-1-5
    Gallardo appears as the play
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    game 2
    Cubs/ Samardzija
    Year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 0-3-3 only one year record

    Pirates/Burnett
    Runs allowed 
     year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 2-4-6
    2011 3-3-6
    2010 4-0-4
     Samardzija appears as the play but just one year,maybe pass

    game 3
    Rockies/Chacin
    Runs allowed 
    Year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 7-0-7
    2011 0-0-0
    2010 0-1-1

    Brewers/Gallardo
    Runs allowed 
     year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 1-0-1
    2011 2-5-7
    2010 4-1-5
    Gallardo appears as the play
     
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    game 4 and 5

    Giants/Cain
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 2-5-7
    2011 0-0-0
    20101-3-4

    Lad / Kershaw
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 0-3-3
    2011 0-1-1
    2010 3-1-4
    Liking the Under in 5 inn
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    Phillies / Hamels
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 3-3-6
    2011 6-1-7
    2010 3-1-4
    Braves/ Hudson
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 2-1-3
    2011 1-1-2
    2010 0-5-5
    Hudson appears as the Play
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    game 4 and 5

    Giants/Cain
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 2-5-7
    2011 0-0-0
    20101-3-4

    Lad / Kershaw
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 0-3-3
    2011 0-1-1
    2010 3-1-4
    Liking the Under in 5 inn
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    Phillies / Hamels
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 3-3-6
    2011 6-1-7
    2010 3-1-4
    Braves/ Hudson
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 2-1-3
    2011 1-1-2
    2010 0-5-5
    Hudson appears as the Play
     
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    game 6 and 7

    Cards /Wainwright
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 1-5-6
    2011 0-3-3
    2010 Pass
    D'Backs/Kennedy
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 2-2-4
    2011 3-3-6
    2010 3-0-3
    Wainwright appears as the play
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    Boston/Lester
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 0-3-3
    2011 5-4-9
    2010 4-2-6

    Nyy / Sabathia
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 5-2-7
    2011 3-0-3
    2010 2-6-8
    This game looks like an Over in 5 and 9 inn
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    game 6 and 7

    Cards /Wainwright
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 1-5-6
    2011 0-3-3
    2010 Pass
    D'Backs/Kennedy
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 2-2-4
    2011 3-3-6
    2010 3-0-3
    Wainwright appears as the play
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    Boston/Lester
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 0-3-3
    2011 5-4-9
    2010 4-2-6

    Nyy / Sabathia
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 5-2-7
    2011 3-0-3
    2010 2-6-8
    This game looks like an Over in 5 and 9 inn
     
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    game 8 and 9

    Royals/Shields
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 6-0-6
    2011 0-3-3
    2010 2-1-3

    Chw / Sale
    2012 1-1-2
    only one year avail
    Sale appears as the play in 5 and 9 inn
     hate going against Royals this early
    after such a great ST
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    Detroit / Verlander
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 0-2-2
    2011 3-3-6
    2010 4-0-4

    Twins/Worley
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 1-4-5
    2011 0-3-3
    2010 no record
    Under looks good in 5 and 9 inn
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    game 8 and 9

    Royals/Shields
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 6-0-6
    2011 0-3-3
    2010 2-1-3

    Chw / Sale
    2012 1-1-2
    only one year avail
    Sale appears as the play in 5 and 9 inn
     hate going against Royals this early
    after such a great ST
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    Detroit / Verlander
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 0-2-2
    2011 3-3-6
    2010 4-0-4

    Twins/Worley
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 1-4-5
    2011 0-3-3
    2010 no record
    Under looks good in 5 and 9 inn
     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2013 - 11:13 PM ET #14

    game 10 and 11

    Cards /Wainwright
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 1-5-6
    2011 0-3-3
    2010 Pass
    D'Backs/Kennedy
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 2-2-4
    2011 3-3-6
    2010 3-0-3
    Wainwright appears as the play
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    Boston/Lester
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 0-3-3
    2011 5-4-9
    2010 4-2-6

    Nyy / Sabathia
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 5-2-7
    2011 3-0-3
    2010 2-6-8
    This game looks like an Over in 5 and 9 inn
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    game 10 and 11

    Cards /Wainwright
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 1-5-6
    2011 0-3-3
    2010 Pass
    D'Backs/Kennedy
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 2-2-4
    2011 3-3-6
    2010 3-0-3
    Wainwright appears as the play
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    Boston/Lester
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 0-3-3
    2011 5-4-9
    2010 4-2-6

    Nyy / Sabathia
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 5-2-7
    2011 3-0-3
    2010 2-6-8
    This game looks like an Over in 5 and 9 inn
     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2013 - 11:14 PM ET #15

    12 and 13

    Royals/Shields
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 6-0-6
    2011 0-3-3
    2010 2-1-3

    Chw / Sale
    2012 1-1-2
    only one year avail
    Sale appears as the play in 5 and 9 inn
     hate going against Royals this early
    after such a great ST
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    Detroit / Verlander
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 0-2-2
    2011 3-3-6
    2010 4-0-4

    Twins/Worley
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 1-4-5
    2011 0-3-3
    2010 no record
    Under looks good in 5 and 9 inn
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    12 and 13

    Royals/Shields
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 6-0-6
    2011 0-3-3
    2010 2-1-3

    Chw / Sale
    2012 1-1-2
    only one year avail
    Sale appears as the play in 5 and 9 inn
     hate going against Royals this early
    after such a great ST
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    Detroit / Verlander
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 0-2-2
    2011 3-3-6
    2010 4-0-4

    Twins/Worley
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 1-4-5
    2011 0-3-3
    2010 no record
    Under looks good in 5 and 9 inn
     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2013 - 11:16 PM ET #16

    14 and 15
    Seattle/Hernandez
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 2-5-7
    2011 2-0-2
    2010 0-3-3

    Oakland/ Anderson
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 1-0-1
    2011 0-5-5
    2010 0-2-2
    like the under in 5 inn
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    Laa / Weaver
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 0-0-0
    2011 0-2-2
    2010 3-0-3

    Cinn/ Cueto
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 0-0-0
    2011 0-0-0
    2010 2-4-6
    Like the under in 5 and 9 inn
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    14 and 15
    Seattle/Hernandez
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 2-5-7
    2011 2-0-2
    2010 0-3-3

    Oakland/ Anderson
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 1-0-1
    2011 0-5-5
    2010 0-2-2
    like the under in 5 inn
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    Laa / Weaver
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 0-0-0
    2011 0-2-2
    2010 3-0-3

    Cinn/ Cueto
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 0-0-0
    2011 0-0-0
    2010 2-4-6
    Like the under in 5 and 9 inn
     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2013 - 11:17 PM ET #17

    games 16 and 17

    Seattle/Hernandez
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 2-5-7
    2011 2-0-2
    2010 0-3-3

    Oakland/ Anderson
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 1-0-1
    2011 0-5-5
    2010 0-2-2
    like the under in 5 inn
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    Laa / Weaver
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 0-0-0
    2011 0-2-2
    2010 3-0-3

    Cinn/ Cueto
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 0-0-0
    2011 0-0-0
    2010 2-4-6
    Like the under in 5 and 9 inn
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    games 16 and 17

    Seattle/Hernandez
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 2-5-7
    2011 2-0-2
    2010 0-3-3

    Oakland/ Anderson
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 1-0-1
    2011 0-5-5
    2010 0-2-2
    like the under in 5 inn
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    Laa / Weaver
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 0-0-0
    2011 0-2-2
    2010 3-0-3

    Cinn/ Cueto
    Runs allowed
    year /5 inn /9 inn/Total
    2012 0-0-0
    2011 0-0-0
    2010 2-4-6
    Like the under in 5 and 9 inn
     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2013 - 11:44 PM ET #18

    I need to get a life,,, this is too much,but i do win a lot of games
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    I need to get a life,,, this is too much,but i do win a lot of games
     
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    Posted: Mar. 31, 2013 - 12:23 AM ET #19

    THANKS FOR ALL YOU DO!!!
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    THANKS FOR ALL YOU DO!!!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 31, 2013 - 4:39 AM ET #20

    hey steveo , i cashed earlier with your sea pick :)
    so the pick for tom r Under first hf and under fg ? 
    and did you also mean to pick Texas as well?
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    hey steveo , i cashed earlier with your sea pick :)
    so the pick for tom r Under first hf and under fg ? 
    and did you also mean to pick Texas as well?
     
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    Posted: Mar. 31, 2013 - 10:04 AM ET #21

    First i want to thank you guys and gals if any, and am looking for a couple of people that are good with spread sheets as i am not so we can formulate information we can use to post here in this forum to save time in posting 
    MLB is a stat driven animal and to be successful you must apply a lot of information regarding a play as you must evaluate the players along with the team

    If anyone is avail please let me know

    key, maybe we can join forces to eliminate duplication  
    <<<<<<<<<<<<< I am a 5 inn guy, <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    I usually do not care what happens in 6-9 innings as for me its the two top starters vs each other,but i do keep records to complete the contest.What i do not follow is the relievers and all the changes that happen after 5 inn with subs and managerial changes and all the rest involved in the final game
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    First i want to thank you guys and gals if any, and am looking for a couple of people that are good with spread sheets as i am not so we can formulate information we can use to post here in this forum to save time in posting 
    MLB is a stat driven animal and to be successful you must apply a lot of information regarding a play as you must evaluate the players along with the team

    If anyone is avail please let me know

    key, maybe we can join forces to eliminate duplication  
    <<<<<<<<<<<<< I am a 5 inn guy, <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    I usually do not care what happens in 6-9 innings as for me its the two top starters vs each other,but i do keep records to complete the contest.What i do not follow is the relievers and all the changes that happen after 5 inn with subs and managerial changes and all the rest involved in the final game
     
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    Posted: Mar. 31, 2013 - 10:10 AM ET #22

    Thanks stevo 1 for everthing you put in a lot of home work
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    Thanks stevo 1 for everthing you put in a lot of home work
     
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    Posted: Mar. 31, 2013 - 10:18 AM ET #23

    Mastermind

    I can not see how Harrison and Texas does not win this contest

    Understand in the stats of runs allowed he had others pitching some of those other innings from 6-9 as he did not in most cases pitch the entire game but he had the support of the staff to assist him in getting the win just as the other starter had his staff to back him up To me it all washes out for both

    That's why i place the runs allowed for the game on the Starter as it gets too difficult for one person to break out every pitcher who enters a game
    Hey this is a hobby for me to win a few bucks not a vocation although some times it feels like a JOB
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    Mastermind

    I can not see how Harrison and Texas does not win this contest

    Understand in the stats of runs allowed he had others pitching some of those other innings from 6-9 as he did not in most cases pitch the entire game but he had the support of the staff to assist him in getting the win just as the other starter had his staff to back him up To me it all washes out for both

    That's why i place the runs allowed for the game on the Starter as it gets too difficult for one person to break out every pitcher who enters a game
    Hey this is a hobby for me to win a few bucks not a vocation although some times it feels like a JOB
     
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    Posted: Mar. 31, 2013 - 10:40 AM ET #24

    Here's Harrison 2012 record runs allowed 
       5 inn 0/1//2/7/8/0/2/3/1/1/1/0/0/1/0/2/1/0/3/5/1/5/0/2/0/6/5/1/0/1
    6-9 inn 0/0/2/1/3/3/2/2/0/1/2/0/0/0/2/1/1/0/4/0/2/4/3/0/0/2/1/3/1/0
    Totals you can do the math

    Understand his staff most likely pitched many of the innings 6-9 but they were the runs allowed for the year 2012 under Harrison's reign
    You can also see with Bold #'s where he did his best work as any runs over 2 is not acceptable to me to wager on a starter
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    Here's Harrison 2012 record runs allowed 
       5 inn 0/1//2/7/8/0/2/3/1/1/1/0/0/1/0/2/1/0/3/5/1/5/0/2/0/6/5/1/0/1
    6-9 inn 0/0/2/1/3/3/2/2/0/1/2/0/0/0/2/1/1/0/4/0/2/4/3/0/0/2/1/3/1/0
    Totals you can do the math

    Understand his staff most likely pitched many of the innings 6-9 but they were the runs allowed for the year 2012 under Harrison's reign
    You can also see with Bold #'s where he did his best work as any runs over 2 is not acceptable to me to wager on a starter
     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 31, 2013 - 10:57 AM ET #25

    I know, well what about Norris

    5 inn 2/4/4/2/0/1/0/1/0/3/10/4/3/3/2/3/9/1/0/1/2/6/3/1/0/2
    6-9    0/0/0/7/3/1/0/2/4/3/1/0/3/1/0/0/4/4/8/5/1/1/1/2/5/3
    as you can see his staff and he show a lot more bad pitching inn 6-9 than texas starters
    notice that 10 runs allowed in his 11th start (9-13 ) were bad
    along with # 2 and 3 as well as others that stand out

    I have this for every starter in both leagues
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    I know, well what about Norris

    5 inn 2/4/4/2/0/1/0/1/0/3/10/4/3/3/2/3/9/1/0/1/2/6/3/1/0/2
    6-9    0/0/0/7/3/1/0/2/4/3/1/0/3/1/0/0/4/4/8/5/1/1/1/2/5/3
    as you can see his staff and he show a lot more bad pitching inn 6-9 than texas starters
    notice that 10 runs allowed in his 11th start (9-13 ) were bad
    along with # 2 and 3 as well as others that stand out

    I have this for every starter in both leagues
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