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    Lawler 1.8/1

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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2014 - 10:27 PM ET #1

    I did submit another post regarding the Pettis/Melendez fight, and I am currently done handicapping that match, and no bets intriguing me at the moment.

    Ruthless Robby Lawler.   More battle tested fighter recently, and his combat intelligence I believe has improved atleast slightly since the first square off vs Hendricks.  Also the first fight was extremely close, and if Lawler slightly improved along with Hendricks regressing then it only offers me one solution as who will win. 

    Lawler is an absolute beast, and something tells me that he wants to win more than Hendricks.  Call it being healthier, revenge oriented, or just someone with more passion at this time.  

    Hendricks has been around for awhile, and this injury he's got I believe it to be a factor even if Johnny says he's healthy lifting heavyweights, and all these type of things.  It has to be in the back of his mind.   Is he healthy enough not just to win this fight but continue fighting at the highest level ?

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    I did submit another post regarding the Pettis/Melendez fight, and I am currently done handicapping that match, and no bets intriguing me at the moment.

    Ruthless Robby Lawler.   More battle tested fighter recently, and his combat intelligence I believe has improved atleast slightly since the first square off vs Hendricks.  Also the first fight was extremely close, and if Lawler slightly improved along with Hendricks regressing then it only offers me one solution as who will win. 

    Lawler is an absolute beast, and something tells me that he wants to win more than Hendricks.  Call it being healthier, revenge oriented, or just someone with more passion at this time.  

    Hendricks has been around for awhile, and this injury he's got I believe it to be a factor even if Johnny says he's healthy lifting heavyweights, and all these type of things.  It has to be in the back of his mind.   Is he healthy enough not just to win this fight but continue fighting at the highest level ?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2014 - 10:53 PM ET #2

    I forgot to mention: let me know if you agree and why.  Think this might be an amazing bet 

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    I forgot to mention: let me know if you agree and why.  Think this might be an amazing bet 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2014 - 11:20 PM ET #3

    Johny had his bicep injury prior to the first fight. His best path to victory was/is takedowns, and he had a hard time lifting legs in the first fight, which is why it stayed on the feet. He still won.

    As far as the competitive edge goes, the hardest, most grueling season in all of sports is a division 1 wrestling season. You basically train for 3-6 fights a week and 2 weight cuts for 12 weeks. Cain, jones, Cormier, Weidman, Hendricks, TJ and countless prior champions have high level wrestling pedigrees. If you think about how these guys won their titles, it wasn't usually with wrestling but because they have a different competitive mindset (Cain got taken down by Brock, Weidman knocked out Silva, TJ dominated Barao on the feet, Johny outstruck Robbie). The mindset it takes to get to a high level in wrestling is difficult to duplicate anywhere else. From the age of 8, these guys never could accept good enough.

    I think Lawler has a puncher's chance and that's about it.
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    Johny had his bicep injury prior to the first fight. His best path to victory was/is takedowns, and he had a hard time lifting legs in the first fight, which is why it stayed on the feet. He still won.

    As far as the competitive edge goes, the hardest, most grueling season in all of sports is a division 1 wrestling season. You basically train for 3-6 fights a week and 2 weight cuts for 12 weeks. Cain, jones, Cormier, Weidman, Hendricks, TJ and countless prior champions have high level wrestling pedigrees. If you think about how these guys won their titles, it wasn't usually with wrestling but because they have a different competitive mindset (Cain got taken down by Brock, Weidman knocked out Silva, TJ dominated Barao on the feet, Johny outstruck Robbie). The mindset it takes to get to a high level in wrestling is difficult to duplicate anywhere else. From the age of 8, these guys never could accept good enough.

    I think Lawler has a puncher's chance and that's about it.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2014 - 1:05 AM ET #4

    btw , you're wrong ... Johnny had bicep surgery after the first fight. 

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    btw , you're wrong ... Johnny had bicep surgery after the first fight. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2014 - 8:26 AM ET #5

    "The injury was actually suffered before the fight with Lawler, and made Hendricks briefly consider pulling out. "

    https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/3/19/5526140/ufc-171-johny-hendricks-bicep-surgery-lawler-mma-news

    "Hendricks initially injured his right bicep two weeks out from his bout against Robbie Lawler. The injury nearly forced Hendricks to withdraw from the event..."

    https://www.mmafighting.com/2014/3/26/5551294/following-successful-bicep-surgery-johny-hendricks-sets-timetable-for

    I said injury, not surgery. The injury was prior to the fight. He fought injured. He's better now than the first fight.
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    "The injury was actually suffered before the fight with Lawler, and made Hendricks briefly consider pulling out. "

    https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/3/19/5526140/ufc-171-johny-hendricks-bicep-surgery-lawler-mma-news

    "Hendricks initially injured his right bicep two weeks out from his bout against Robbie Lawler. The injury nearly forced Hendricks to withdraw from the event..."

    https://www.mmafighting.com/2014/3/26/5551294/following-successful-bicep-surgery-johny-hendricks-sets-timetable-for

    I said injury, not surgery. The injury was prior to the fight. He fought injured. He's better now than the first fight.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2014 - 12:13 PM ET #6

    ok my fault , but the surgery after the fight may present new unexpected results. 

    Thanks for the additional info 

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    ok my fault , but the surgery after the fight may present new unexpected results. 

    Thanks for the additional info 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2014 - 3:01 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by jackal4422:

    ok my fault , but the surgery after the fight may present new unexpected results. Thanks for the additional info


    No problem - good luck with whatever you decide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackal4422:

    ok my fault , but the surgery after the fight may present new unexpected results. Thanks for the additional info


    No problem - good luck with whatever you decide.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2014 - 4:32 AM ET #8

    No bets Placed yet , and i'm uncertain of Hendricks health ... so will continue to further evaluate these. 
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    No bets Placed yet , and i'm uncertain of Hendricks health ... so will continue to further evaluate these. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2014 - 4:32 AM ET #9

    This fight is a no play for me as of now 
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    This fight is a no play for me as of now 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2014 - 10:20 AM ET #10

    the under is the play in this fight. at -115 I believe this is a steal. too much power between the two of them. 25 minutes is a long time to stand in front of eachother. in the first fight if I remember correctly, both guys were rocks several times.

    the best fight to bet on this card is corey Anderson -335. I know its a lot of wood but I really don't think is opponent has a shot. Anderson is a workhorse with very good wrestling. those are guys that you bet.

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    the under is the play in this fight. at -115 I believe this is a steal. too much power between the two of them. 25 minutes is a long time to stand in front of eachother. in the first fight if I remember correctly, both guys were rocks several times.

    the best fight to bet on this card is corey Anderson -335. I know its a lot of wood but I really don't think is opponent has a shot. Anderson is a workhorse with very good wrestling. those are guys that you bet.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2014 - 3:03 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by buckShot22:


    the best fight to bet on this card is corey Anderson -335. I know its a lot of wood but I really don't think is opponent has a shot. Anderson is a workhorse with very good wrestling. those are guys that you bet.


    I just can't bet that much juice against a guy I don't know much about. He's coming up a class to fight Anderson on short notice - this fight reminds me a lot of Pat Cummins and Roger Narvaez a few months back. I don't think his strategy should be to outgrapple Corey for sure, but I don't know if his striking is very good or not? Corey's striking hasn't been super impressive since I've seen him and his tuf season bracket may have been the weakest cast ever assembled (check it out - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ultimate_Fighter:_Team_Edgar_vs._Team_Penn ).

    We'll see. I just wish I knew more about both guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buckShot22:


    the best fight to bet on this card is corey Anderson -335. I know its a lot of wood but I really don't think is opponent has a shot. Anderson is a workhorse with very good wrestling. those are guys that you bet.


    I just can't bet that much juice against a guy I don't know much about. He's coming up a class to fight Anderson on short notice - this fight reminds me a lot of Pat Cummins and Roger Narvaez a few months back. I don't think his strategy should be to outgrapple Corey for sure, but I don't know if his striking is very good or not? Corey's striking hasn't been super impressive since I've seen him and his tuf season bracket may have been the weakest cast ever assembled (check it out - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ultimate_Fighter:_Team_Edgar_vs._Team_Penn ).

    We'll see. I just wish I knew more about both guys.
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2014 - 4:22 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by buckShot22:

    the under is the play in this fight. at -115 I believe this is a steal. too much power between the two of them. 25 minutes is a long time to stand in front of eachother. in the first fight if I remember correctly, both guys were rocks several times.
    the best fight to bet on this card is corey Anderson -335. I know its a lot of wood but I really don't think is opponent has a shot. Anderson is a workhorse with very good wrestling. those are guys that you bet.

    Already played both Buckshot. Anderson training with the Edgar camp, great move for him!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by buckShot22:

    the under is the play in this fight. at -115 I believe this is a steal. too much power between the two of them. 25 minutes is a long time to stand in front of eachother. in the first fight if I remember correctly, both guys were rocks several times.
    the best fight to bet on this card is corey Anderson -335. I know its a lot of wood but I really don't think is opponent has a shot. Anderson is a workhorse with very good wrestling. those are guys that you bet.

    Already played both Buckshot. Anderson training with the Edgar camp, great move for him!!!!
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