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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2007 - 6:43 PM ET #1

    I deleted the other thread because of the typo, no other reasoning.

    Made a nice hit which made up for some of my POZN losses and SNDK losses, searching for the next setup.


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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    I deleted the other thread because of the typo, no other reasoning.

    Made a nice hit which made up for some of my POZN losses and SNDK losses, searching for the next setup.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2007 - 7:16 PM ET #2

    POZN have much short interest for the manipulators to terrorize????
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    POZN have much short interest for the manipulators to terrorize????
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2007 - 7:20 PM ET #3

    Speaking of going short, may not be a bad trade to short FSLR on a big gap up some time this week.
     
    Not saying it will or won't happen, but profit taking by longs,and a breather from terrorist attacks by manipulators might happen some time this week for maybe an hour.
     
    The shit has gone straight fucking up since mid Septemeber.......92 to 138.
     
    But need a HUGE gap up on positive news for the smart money to bail.
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    Speaking of going short, may not be a bad trade to short FSLR on a big gap up some time this week.
     
    Not saying it will or won't happen, but profit taking by longs,and a breather from terrorist attacks by manipulators might happen some time this week for maybe an hour.
     
    The shit has gone straight fucking up since mid Septemeber.......92 to 138.
     
    But need a HUGE gap up on positive news for the smart money to bail.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2007 - 7:31 PM ET #4

    I think a drop in FSLR will be large..and you are right, the tide will turn, but when the hell is that going to happen?

    I would love over 150, but then I thought BIDU was a pig in the high 100s and RIMM was a pig about 50 pts ago..


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    I think a drop in FSLR will be large..and you are right, the tide will turn, but when the hell is that going to happen?

    I would love over 150, but then I thought BIDU was a pig in the high 100s and RIMM was a pig about 50 pts ago..


     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2007 - 7:39 PM ET #5

    Need a HUGE gap up on some positive news......then Joe Schmuck money will come in to chase, and the smart money will sell all day and all night to Mr Schmuck.
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    Need a HUGE gap up on some positive news......then Joe Schmuck money will come in to chase, and the smart money will sell all day and all night to Mr Schmuck.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2007 - 8:11 PM ET #6

    Glad you got rid of typos..I hate em...

    I see where the head of Oracle just sold a cool million of his shares.This gives me pause on the Dec 22.50 call I was considering.I still like it, just less so.
    Still looking at PVR Feb 25 calls@ 3.5


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    Glad you got rid of typos..I hate em...

    I see where the head of Oracle just sold a cool million of his shares.This gives me pause on the Dec 22.50 call I was considering.I still like it, just less so.
    Still looking at PVR Feb 25 calls@ 3.5


     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2007 - 8:17 PM ET #7

    PS The PVR  is a Lenny Dykstra...in sympathy for the old Phillie...
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    PS The PVR  is a Lenny Dykstra...in sympathy for the old Phillie...
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2007 - 8:19 PM ET #8

    From Schaeffer Research, nothing you two do not already know I am sure..

    Earlier today I touched on the alternative energy sector and solar power with a look into potential climactic selling on LDK Solar Co., Ltd. (LDK). Another stock from the solar area to note is First Solar, Inc. (FSLR), which is breaking out to another new high today.

    In a post at the end of August I noted that First Solar, along with Echelon Corporation (ELON), was a heavily shorted stock. I just looked at the most recent data and that is still the case, with nearly 20% of the stock's float sold short.

    That high level of short interest may help to explain some of the volatility. As the daily chart below shows, the stock has demonstrated a definite ability to move. As it stands now, the shares are breaking out of a consolidation phase that has 120 as the upper boundary.

    In terms of the Street, it seems that analysts have yet to really embrace the stock. According to Zacks, only 3 of 6 analysts rank the stock with a "buy" rating. As was the case with LDK Solar, I think that this offers the opportunity for analysts to "find" the stock.

    One last point to note is that the open interest configuration shows that call speculators don't seem too enthusiastic as the stock doesn't have much in the way of overhead open interest. I tend to view light overhead calls as a sign that expectations are still subdued.




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    From Schaeffer Research, nothing you two do not already know I am sure..

    Earlier today I touched on the alternative energy sector and solar power with a look into potential climactic selling on LDK Solar Co., Ltd. (LDK). Another stock from the solar area to note is First Solar, Inc. (FSLR), which is breaking out to another new high today.

    In a post at the end of August I noted that First Solar, along with Echelon Corporation (ELON), was a heavily shorted stock. I just looked at the most recent data and that is still the case, with nearly 20% of the stock's float sold short.

    That high level of short interest may help to explain some of the volatility. As the daily chart below shows, the stock has demonstrated a definite ability to move. As it stands now, the shares are breaking out of a consolidation phase that has 120 as the upper boundary.

    In terms of the Street, it seems that analysts have yet to really embrace the stock. According to Zacks, only 3 of 6 analysts rank the stock with a "buy" rating. As was the case with LDK Solar, I think that this offers the opportunity for analysts to "find" the stock.

    One last point to note is that the open interest configuration shows that call speculators don't seem too enthusiastic as the stock doesn't have much in the way of overhead open interest. I tend to view light overhead calls as a sign that expectations are still subdued.




     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2007 - 10:31 PM ET #9

    Vermeer,

    Larry Ellison has a BAZILLION shares and he is selling ALL the time..so that doesnt bug me much.

    Thanks for the Bernie report, yeah I know who he is..the shrimpy nerdy guy...


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    Vermeer,

    Larry Ellison has a BAZILLION shares and he is selling ALL the time..so that doesnt bug me much.

    Thanks for the Bernie report, yeah I know who he is..the shrimpy nerdy guy...


     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2007 - 11:35 PM ET #10

    Those Dec 22.5s are only 95 cents, was thinking of taking a shot with them. I liked the technicals on ORCL, and the fundamentals are Ok as well..

    Company Performs Well In Fundamental Analysis -
    MarketGrader currently has a BUY rating on ORACLE CORP (ORCL), based on a final overall grade of 68.5 scored by the company's fundamental analysis. ORACLE CORP scores at the 93rd percentile among all 5442 U.S. listed equities currently followed by MarketGrader. Our present rating dates to December 16, 2005, when it was upgraded from a HOLD. Relative to the Systems Software sub-industry, which is comprised of 45 companies, ORACLE CORP's grade of 68.5 ranks fifth. The industry grade leader is MICROSOFT CORP (MSFT) with an overall grade of 79.7. The stock, up 15.96% in the last six months, has outperformed both the Systems Software group, down 2.34% and the S&P 500 Index, which has returned 5.75% in the same period.
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    Those Dec 22.5s are only 95 cents, was thinking of taking a shot with them. I liked the technicals on ORCL, and the fundamentals are Ok as well..

    Company Performs Well In Fundamental Analysis -
    MarketGrader currently has a BUY rating on ORACLE CORP (ORCL), based on a final overall grade of 68.5 scored by the company's fundamental analysis. ORACLE CORP scores at the 93rd percentile among all 5442 U.S. listed equities currently followed by MarketGrader. Our present rating dates to December 16, 2005, when it was upgraded from a HOLD. Relative to the Systems Software sub-industry, which is comprised of 45 companies, ORACLE CORP's grade of 68.5 ranks fifth. The industry grade leader is MICROSOFT CORP (MSFT) with an overall grade of 79.7. The stock, up 15.96% in the last six months, has outperformed both the Systems Software group, down 2.34% and the S&P 500 Index, which has returned 5.75% in the same period.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2007 - 12:04 AM ET #11

    Vermeer,

    Why go for a slow moving giant like ORCL?

    I dont care for the company, their growth has been from buying up competitors not from internal improvements.

    In tech land there are so many better stocks to take a stab at, I will probably never go long calls on ORCL..
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    Vermeer,

    Why go for a slow moving giant like ORCL?

    I dont care for the company, their growth has been from buying up competitors not from internal improvements.

    In tech land there are so many better stocks to take a stab at, I will probably never go long calls on ORCL..
     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2007 - 12:39 AM ET #12

      WSS,

      It does not have to move very far by late December to get to the strike price...it carries @2 beta, and th market will head up before the big crackup coming America's way by the new year.

     I am looking, that's all for now, but I would expect those to be in the money. Always open to suggestions, heck I had a nice Friday just dipping a toe in the water following your DRYs!!!

      From market watch, and the jim referred to is Rogers, commodities guru (and author of a nice book Investment Biker a few years ago)...I think the 20 years he thinks may be generous to the US.


    Asia is winning the economic war:
    • The Chinese economy's growth rate has averaged 9% since the early 1980s
    • 40% of China's output goes to exports, so there's no crippling foreign debt
    • China's savings rate is over 35% compared with America's 2%
    • Thanks to $60 billion a year in direct foreign investment, combined with a trade surplus, China's foreign currency reserves are now more than $1 trillion
    • China's fixed assets -- ports, bridges, roads -- double every two and a half years.
    Jim's bottom line: "If projections hold, China will surpass the United States as the world's largest economy in as little as 20 years ... the time to act is now."


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      WSS,

      It does not have to move very far by late December to get to the strike price...it carries @2 beta, and th market will head up before the big crackup coming America's way by the new year.

     I am looking, that's all for now, but I would expect those to be in the money. Always open to suggestions, heck I had a nice Friday just dipping a toe in the water following your DRYs!!!

      From market watch, and the jim referred to is Rogers, commodities guru (and author of a nice book Investment Biker a few years ago)...I think the 20 years he thinks may be generous to the US.


    Asia is winning the economic war:
    • The Chinese economy's growth rate has averaged 9% since the early 1980s
    • 40% of China's output goes to exports, so there's no crippling foreign debt
    • China's savings rate is over 35% compared with America's 2%
    • Thanks to $60 billion a year in direct foreign investment, combined with a trade surplus, China's foreign currency reserves are now more than $1 trillion
    • China's fixed assets -- ports, bridges, roads -- double every two and a half years.
    Jim's bottom line: "If projections hold, China will surpass the United States as the world's largest economy in as little as 20 years ... the time to act is now."


     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2007 - 12:59 AM ET #13

    Vermeer,

    Only way to really capitalize on China is for mutual funds or buying REAL stocks on the Bejing exchange. The ADRs we have access to is very limited.

    Add that China could explode with inflation and hyper growth, they could turn a good thing into a big fat mess.

    Since China isnt a market economy, they cannot succeed the same way a true supply and demand economy would. I dont think the government can handle the balance of growth and control.

    I do like Mr.Bowtie quite a bit though..always have.
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    Vermeer,

    Only way to really capitalize on China is for mutual funds or buying REAL stocks on the Bejing exchange. The ADRs we have access to is very limited.

    Add that China could explode with inflation and hyper growth, they could turn a good thing into a big fat mess.

    Since China isnt a market economy, they cannot succeed the same way a true supply and demand economy would. I dont think the government can handle the balance of growth and control.

    I do like Mr.Bowtie quite a bit though..always have.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2007 - 1:50 AM ET #14

      WSS,

     I do not think a true supply and demand economy exists in the world.Of course ours is a closer approximation, but the deck is rigged.
     
     China could blow up, certainly...but the US has inflicted massive wounds on itself, with absurd guarantees, military, social and economic, that cannot be met.The bread and circus scene we are in has been played out before, with poor results.

     Have you noticed by the way the proliferation of "czars" to run our many futile "wars" (on drugs, on poverty, on the flavor of the month problem??) Anyone really think a solution to any serious issue is going to originate from DC?? Not me. Both political parties are intellectually bankrupt, and should go the way of the Whigs.

      Now back to making some money.Unlike Rogers, I am not decamping to Singapore!! I think aside from the ADRs, the best way I have made money from China (and let's not forget India and even Brazil!!) driven demand is through BHP, RIO and PTR and TNP, among others. No end in sight for incredible demand from these countries' continuing development.

     As America goes bankrupt, the action is and has been in Asia.What are you looking at, here or there, that is a compelling investment?

     
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      WSS,

     I do not think a true supply and demand economy exists in the world.Of course ours is a closer approximation, but the deck is rigged.
     
     China could blow up, certainly...but the US has inflicted massive wounds on itself, with absurd guarantees, military, social and economic, that cannot be met.The bread and circus scene we are in has been played out before, with poor results.

     Have you noticed by the way the proliferation of "czars" to run our many futile "wars" (on drugs, on poverty, on the flavor of the month problem??) Anyone really think a solution to any serious issue is going to originate from DC?? Not me. Both political parties are intellectually bankrupt, and should go the way of the Whigs.

      Now back to making some money.Unlike Rogers, I am not decamping to Singapore!! I think aside from the ADRs, the best way I have made money from China (and let's not forget India and even Brazil!!) driven demand is through BHP, RIO and PTR and TNP, among others. No end in sight for incredible demand from these countries' continuing development.

     As America goes bankrupt, the action is and has been in Asia.What are you looking at, here or there, that is a compelling investment?

     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2007 - 2:39 AM ET #15

    Vermeer,

    If you really wanted the true action, then you get with a broker who can gain you access to stocks on the exchange which lists ALL the stocks, not just ADRs and US/China hybrid companies.

    If you think the action is there, then now it is possible to actually buy stocks on those exchanges, it is possible and if you really think that market goes bonkers, then picking through the ADR scraps and pink sheet listed stocks is not the way to do it.

    There are good strong China mutual funds and ETFs which will perform better. I think the BEST way to really make a killing in China is to find a hot broker in the Far East and buy some stock in companies listed there, with confirmed assets there by someone who knows. Somtimes I look at what we have available and I have no clue as to what is true and verifyable and what isnt.

    I think along the way China will have a serious meltdown, of Japan proportions..the government will do somthing stupid and it will kill the market..if it happens soon, then ever the better.

    I just dont trust a communistic government not to mess up a monster economy and be able to balance inflation and growth and supression of the working class.

    Remember China is a communist country, old leaders and old thinkers..
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    Vermeer,

    If you really wanted the true action, then you get with a broker who can gain you access to stocks on the exchange which lists ALL the stocks, not just ADRs and US/China hybrid companies.

    If you think the action is there, then now it is possible to actually buy stocks on those exchanges, it is possible and if you really think that market goes bonkers, then picking through the ADR scraps and pink sheet listed stocks is not the way to do it.

    There are good strong China mutual funds and ETFs which will perform better. I think the BEST way to really make a killing in China is to find a hot broker in the Far East and buy some stock in companies listed there, with confirmed assets there by someone who knows. Somtimes I look at what we have available and I have no clue as to what is true and verifyable and what isnt.

    I think along the way China will have a serious meltdown, of Japan proportions..the government will do somthing stupid and it will kill the market..if it happens soon, then ever the better.

    I just dont trust a communistic government not to mess up a monster economy and be able to balance inflation and growth and supression of the working class.

    Remember China is a communist country, old leaders and old thinkers..
     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2007 - 11:35 AM ET #16


      Oh I agree, but I think old people, communist or not, cannot contain the capitalist genie once out of the bottle, and it is surely out...these geriatric leaders are already superfluous, and I suspect they know it.

      I do not agree about them killing the market,  or at least I hope not...the biggest hope for peace is that China will do everything in its power to prevent anything from upsetting what is going on there now. ( We need them to feel that way regarding N Korea especially) At least through the Olympics, but truly, I suspect as long as their country continues to prosper...as it will,if they do not blow it.It will not remain communist, but may evolve into some sort of thugocracy like Russia has done. But communism is dead everywhere but Cuba, N.Korea, Venezuela, and Cambridge, Mass. ( I kid, I kid)

     I do know a man who has been in Shanghai since 1992, working in his uncle's investment bank. I should contact him, I suppose...I remain leery of investing  directly in their markets.

     

     


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      Oh I agree, but I think old people, communist or not, cannot contain the capitalist genie once out of the bottle, and it is surely out...these geriatric leaders are already superfluous, and I suspect they know it.

      I do not agree about them killing the market,  or at least I hope not...the biggest hope for peace is that China will do everything in its power to prevent anything from upsetting what is going on there now. ( We need them to feel that way regarding N Korea especially) At least through the Olympics, but truly, I suspect as long as their country continues to prosper...as it will,if they do not blow it.It will not remain communist, but may evolve into some sort of thugocracy like Russia has done. But communism is dead everywhere but Cuba, N.Korea, Venezuela, and Cambridge, Mass. ( I kid, I kid)

     I do know a man who has been in Shanghai since 1992, working in his uncle's investment bank. I should contact him, I suppose...I remain leery of investing  directly in their markets.

     

     


     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2007 - 12:21 PM ET #17

    I'd be leery of investing directly in China.  I don't trust the process......just no recourse if shit gets rough, and it could.  Your money could sit there for years.  I don't trust the bastards over there any further than I can throw them.
     
    But WSC is right, the ADRs are nothing but public lambs set up for slaughter.
     
    The way to play China is via mutual funds.....may seem boring, but it's safer.
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    I'd be leery of investing directly in China.  I don't trust the process......just no recourse if shit gets rough, and it could.  Your money could sit there for years.  I don't trust the bastards over there any further than I can throw them.
     
    But WSC is right, the ADRs are nothing but public lambs set up for slaughter.
     
    The way to play China is via mutual funds.....may seem boring, but it's safer.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2007 - 1:02 PM ET #18

    I agree CC...like any ETFs in particular? I have a chunk of PGJ...not a huge amount....
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    I agree CC...like any ETFs in particular? I have a chunk of PGJ...not a huge amount....
     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2007 - 4:40 PM ET #19

    Nah, Vermeer, I don't know anything about any ETFs.  I'm pretty much just a buy and hold guy......I'm stupid, so I need to keep things nice and simple for my simple mind......then I don't do too horribly.  The second I try to get more complex, then the bomb is ticking.
     
    Have a good week, man.
     
    Should be yet another entertaining one at the stock market casino as we all engage in this sicko game of liar's poker.
     
    Cheers
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    Nah, Vermeer, I don't know anything about any ETFs.  I'm pretty much just a buy and hold guy......I'm stupid, so I need to keep things nice and simple for my simple mind......then I don't do too horribly.  The second I try to get more complex, then the bomb is ticking.
     
    Have a good week, man.
     
    Should be yet another entertaining one at the stock market casino as we all engage in this sicko game of liar's poker.
     
    Cheers
     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2007 - 5:39 PM ET #20

    I am a 80-90% buy and hold, 10-20% speculation. I think the bulk is safe, and am willing to gamble with the rest to keep me on top of current events.It remains the best mix for me.GL !!
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    I am a 80-90% buy and hold, 10-20% speculation. I think the bulk is safe, and am willing to gamble with the rest to keep me on top of current events.It remains the best mix for me.GL !!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2007 - 11:40 AM ET #21

    crdc 14.05 

    orqlx 1.2
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    crdc 14.05 

    orqlx 1.2
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2007 - 11:47 AM ET #22

    ETFs arent speculative..they are exactly like a mutual fund that trades intra day, like a closed fund..but more volume and participation.

    Big volume on CRDC, they brought it up and sold it down, still doing well.
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    ETFs arent speculative..they are exactly like a mutual fund that trades intra day, like a closed fund..but more volume and participation.

    Big volume on CRDC, they brought it up and sold it down, still doing well.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2007 - 10:52 PM ET #23

    From a Market Watch column, something we all know, but it is good to be reminded of...

    First, the world's market capitalization is rapidly shifting outside the U.S. Morgan Stanley, Bloomberg, Dow Jones and others report that as recently as 1970 the U.S. owned 67% of the world's market cap. A decade ago it was down to just 44%. Today the U.S. is about 40%.
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    From a Market Watch column, something we all know, but it is good to be reminded of...

    First, the world's market capitalization is rapidly shifting outside the U.S. Morgan Stanley, Bloomberg, Dow Jones and others report that as recently as 1970 the U.S. owned 67% of the world's market cap. A decade ago it was down to just 44%. Today the U.S. is about 40%.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2007 - 11:44 AM ET #24

    DRYS

    Left 25k on the table


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    DRYS

    Left 25k on the table


     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2007 - 2:29 PM ET #25

    I know QLGC has been talked about here before and I have it on my "watchlist".  They are announcing earnings on the 23rd of this month.
     
    Anyone have an opinion on the stock ahead of the news? 
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    I know QLGC has been talked about here before and I have it on my "watchlist".  They are announcing earnings on the 23rd of this month.
     
    Anyone have an opinion on the stock ahead of the news? 
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