What sucks, though, is that the perceived "higher price" of SPWR may scare some peeps off of SPWR if they know they can ride ESLR for about 1/10th the "perceived" price.
The volume in ESLR corroborates all that, but most of it is probably manipulators flipping burgers.
Just on bullshit momentum alone, I can easily see a shit company like ESLR in the 30s sooner than later.
14ish now......and that is, to me, about 14 points too high, but if it gets pushed to 30, no one gives a damn about fundamentals in today's world.....all about the now......why our economy is about to die on the vine.
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What sucks, though, is that the perceived "higher price" of SPWR may scare some peeps off of SPWR if they know they can ride ESLR for about 1/10th the "perceived" price.
The volume in ESLR corroborates all that, but most of it is probably manipulators flipping burgers.
Just on bullshit momentum alone, I can easily see a shit company like ESLR in the 30s sooner than later.
14ish now......and that is, to me, about 14 points too high, but if it gets pushed to 30, no one gives a damn about fundamentals in today's world.....all about the now......why our economy is about to die on the vine.
These are dotcoms in the making to me...600+ P/E ratios and already people using the "new paradigm" theory of explaining valuation. Every so often people have to re-learn the same lesson.
Oh well...hope all the momentum stays in whatever direction you are on...
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These are dotcoms in the making to me...600+ P/E ratios and already people using the "new paradigm" theory of explaining valuation. Every so often people have to re-learn the same lesson.
Oh well...hope all the momentum stays in whatever direction you are on...
walls, "Stupid analysts" is redundent. bunch of over paid bullshit artists that scream "buy" at the top and "sell" at the bottom. for them along with the crap peddlers that work for Washington "think tanks"
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walls, "Stupid analysts" is redundent. bunch of over paid bullshit artists that scream "buy" at the top and "sell" at the bottom. for them along with the crap peddlers that work for Washington "think tanks"
walls, "Stupid analysts" is redundent. bunch of over paid bullshit artists that scream "buy" at the top and "sell" at the bottom. for them along with the crap peddlers that work for Washington "think tanks"
That could only be one author on the entire sight who writes like that..
I bet that firm was trying to make a name and call out a top..stupid fools.
Who listens to that two bit firm anyway, I sure dont!
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Quote Originally Posted by LeRinkRat:
walls, "Stupid analysts" is redundent. bunch of over paid bullshit artists that scream "buy" at the top and "sell" at the bottom. for them along with the crap peddlers that work for Washington "think tanks"
That could only be one author on the entire sight who writes like that..
I bet that firm was trying to make a name and call out a top..stupid fools.
Who listens to that two bit firm anyway, I sure dont!
Couldn't agree more, Vermeer. But you know as well as I that solars will be a key issue in the coming year's election.
Now does the valuation knock them down to size? Might, and then again, might not. It's all about the "going forward" during earnings. Yep, one bad forecast, and KABOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!
Unfortunately, today is not the Wall Street of years past with getting the WSJ 2 days later, and you never miss a beat. These ticker symbols move at warp speed with twits on cell phones charging around making emotional decisions.
Also, sometimes unfortunately I must add, I live on the same planet with these fools and have to pay bills. Majority rules. I got to play by the rules, even though I don't like them. The rule is perception is reality.
I know full well that FSLR and SPWR are overpriced, but if they are going to go up (and I believe they will), then no one is going to pay my bills cause I sat there and argued with the tape.....no one would give a damn.
FSLR and SPWR were overvalued at 20.
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Couldn't agree more, Vermeer. But you know as well as I that solars will be a key issue in the coming year's election.
Now does the valuation knock them down to size? Might, and then again, might not. It's all about the "going forward" during earnings. Yep, one bad forecast, and KABOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!
Unfortunately, today is not the Wall Street of years past with getting the WSJ 2 days later, and you never miss a beat. These ticker symbols move at warp speed with twits on cell phones charging around making emotional decisions.
Also, sometimes unfortunately I must add, I live on the same planet with these fools and have to pay bills. Majority rules. I got to play by the rules, even though I don't like them. The rule is perception is reality.
I know full well that FSLR and SPWR are overpriced, but if they are going to go up (and I believe they will), then no one is going to pay my bills cause I sat there and argued with the tape.....no one would give a damn.
I suppose I am the sort that does not mind missing a train (if its ultimate destination is over the coming cliff).
I think now more than ever keeping a cool head is necessary.As markets get more emotional, I am not saying to take a bullet now and be proven right way too late; I just sidestep it and stay closer to my comfort level. But we all have different trading/risk tolerances. If in my heart of hearts I think a stock is overvalued, I rarely can get in on it just by citing momentum to myself.But that is just me.
I usually have lost money on momentum plays so that is why I trade more on fundamentals than pure momentum.But I am well aware that emotion can overrule solid fundamental judgments for a short period of time...
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I suppose I am the sort that does not mind missing a train (if its ultimate destination is over the coming cliff).
I think now more than ever keeping a cool head is necessary.As markets get more emotional, I am not saying to take a bullet now and be proven right way too late; I just sidestep it and stay closer to my comfort level. But we all have different trading/risk tolerances. If in my heart of hearts I think a stock is overvalued, I rarely can get in on it just by citing momentum to myself.But that is just me.
I usually have lost money on momentum plays so that is why I trade more on fundamentals than pure momentum.But I am well aware that emotion can overrule solid fundamental judgments for a short period of time...
I wish things didn't get so emotionally ballooned (like solars), and it makes the game much harder to play, but it is what it is.
In the 90s, when I started to get in to this sickening game of liar's poker at the stock market casino, I argued constantly with the tape...."too over-valued, too high in price, etc..." and then watched stuff go to the moon on emotional hysteria (irrational exuberance). I had to adjust to the new rules.
I don't like it. I'd much rather get the WSJ 2 days later and never miss out. Just doesn't work that way. Even Warren Buffet has to be in "real time" today, in spite of what he claims. He knows exactly what is going on on a second to second basis.
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Yep, I agree, Vermeer. Right on the money.
I wish things didn't get so emotionally ballooned (like solars), and it makes the game much harder to play, but it is what it is.
In the 90s, when I started to get in to this sickening game of liar's poker at the stock market casino, I argued constantly with the tape...."too over-valued, too high in price, etc..." and then watched stuff go to the moon on emotional hysteria (irrational exuberance). I had to adjust to the new rules.
I don't like it. I'd much rather get the WSJ 2 days later and never miss out. Just doesn't work that way. Even Warren Buffet has to be in "real time" today, in spite of what he claims. He knows exactly what is going on on a second to second basis.
He may know what is occurring on a second by second basis, but he does not invest with a daily or weekly time frame in mind.But he is not a trader, either.
I think, to paraphrase the Who, the new rules are the same as the old rules.People pump and dump stocks...wildly exaggerated claims are sold as future realities...and as they did in markets going back centuries, bubbles will form and ultimately bust on such claims.
We have already seen a dotcom and telcom bust..Enron was a "new paradigm" for energy companies...etc etc..you know the history as well as I do.
Makes me very leery...especially when I hear oddly similar phrases used to explain the radical valuations that result.
Anyway, I never lose sleep over money I "missed making." I never had it to begin with...I am more concerned about keeping what I have.Stocks in general decline a LOT faster in general than they rise.
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He may know what is occurring on a second by second basis, but he does not invest with a daily or weekly time frame in mind.But he is not a trader, either.
I think, to paraphrase the Who, the new rules are the same as the old rules.People pump and dump stocks...wildly exaggerated claims are sold as future realities...and as they did in markets going back centuries, bubbles will form and ultimately bust on such claims.
We have already seen a dotcom and telcom bust..Enron was a "new paradigm" for energy companies...etc etc..you know the history as well as I do.
Makes me very leery...especially when I hear oddly similar phrases used to explain the radical valuations that result.
Anyway, I never lose sleep over money I "missed making." I never had it to begin with...I am more concerned about keeping what I have.Stocks in general decline a LOT faster in general than they rise.
I hate chalk as much, if not more, than anyone. MAC at -150 should come in. We'll see. But if you don't do boxing, why bother?
I dont wager boxing because I know little about it and the players involved (of course I know boxing, but lately havent kept up) but if someone had a tip for me, I would bet boxing..
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Quote Originally Posted by claycourtlesson:
WSC-
"Gut feel." Never go against it.
I hate chalk as much, if not more, than anyone. MAC at -150 should come in. We'll see. But if you don't do boxing, why bother?
I dont wager boxing because I know little about it and the players involved (of course I know boxing, but lately havent kept up) but if someone had a tip for me, I would bet boxing..
I wish things didn't get so emotionally ballooned (like solars), and it makes the game much harder to play, but it is what it is.
In the 90s, when I started to get in to this sickening game of liar's poker at the stock market casino, I argued constantly with the tape...."too over-valued, too high in price, etc..." and then watched stuff go to the moon on emotional hysteria (irrational exuberance). I had to adjust to the new rules.
I don't like it. I'd much rather get the WSJ 2 days later and never miss out. Just doesn't work that way. Even Warren Buffet has to be in "real time" today, in spite of what he claims. He knows exactly what is going on on a second to second basis.
Me too..for the most part I sat on my hands and shook my head as stocks went UP UP UP UP and I missed a good year of runs. Near the mid to end I started to risk more and did ok.
I agree with you completely..
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Quote Originally Posted by claycourtlesson:
Yep, I agree, Vermeer. Right on the money.
I wish things didn't get so emotionally ballooned (like solars), and it makes the game much harder to play, but it is what it is.
In the 90s, when I started to get in to this sickening game of liar's poker at the stock market casino, I argued constantly with the tape...."too over-valued, too high in price, etc..." and then watched stuff go to the moon on emotional hysteria (irrational exuberance). I had to adjust to the new rules.
I don't like it. I'd much rather get the WSJ 2 days later and never miss out. Just doesn't work that way. Even Warren Buffet has to be in "real time" today, in spite of what he claims. He knows exactly what is going on on a second to second basis.
Me too..for the most part I sat on my hands and shook my head as stocks went UP UP UP UP and I missed a good year of runs. Near the mid to end I started to risk more and did ok.
Looks like manipulators are going to run this thing back to par and see how many shorts they can bust up in the next 37 minutes.
Insane.
WSC- I'm not good enough to give boxing tips, so pay no attention to what I say about it. What I do know is that you're "DITM" now on those Nov 120s. I have no clue about how Monday's time decay could affect the pricing....to me, the opening price Monday will be all about the current mood. Barron's (that hideous publication) scares me on Fridays, though. They yap, and for some reason, the idiot public listens. Barron's could really f--k up some solars for Monday's open if they quote some negative douchebag this w-end.
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Looks like manipulators are going to run this thing back to par and see how many shorts they can bust up in the next 37 minutes.
Insane.
WSC- I'm not good enough to give boxing tips, so pay no attention to what I say about it. What I do know is that you're "DITM" now on those Nov 120s. I have no clue about how Monday's time decay could affect the pricing....to me, the opening price Monday will be all about the current mood. Barron's (that hideous publication) scares me on Fridays, though. They yap, and for some reason, the idiot public listens. Barron's could really f--k up some solars for Monday's open if they quote some negative douchebag this w-end.
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for them along with the crap peddlers that work for Washington "think tanks"
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