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    BCON

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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2007 - 2:41 PM ET #1

    anyone have any 2 minute comments on BCON?
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    anyone have any 2 minute comments on BCON?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2007 - 3:03 PM ET #2

    watch the "flywheels and frequency regulation" video at this link
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    watch the "flywheels and frequency regulation" video at this link
     
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2007 - 3:24 PM ET #3

    Gunners,

    You know my thoughts..maybe others have a differing opinion.


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    Gunners,

    You know my thoughts..maybe others have a differing opinion.


     
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2007 - 4:00 PM ET #4

    yes i know you don't like to trade these cheap stocks.  doesn't mean they are always bad though. 
     
    did you watch that video?  seems like a good product to me
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    yes i know you don't like to trade these cheap stocks.  doesn't mean they are always bad though. 
     
    did you watch that video?  seems like a good product to me
     
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2007 - 4:11 PM ET #5

    Gunners,

    My comments are about BCON the stock, not cheap stocks in this situation.

    Look closely at a few things on BCON. They have claimed the technology and potential for years..I have followed them for 5 yrs, even owned the stock at various stages and I just dont believe their product has ANY potential for large scale acceptance.

    What their technology is used for is a very small segment, fly wheel technology is inefficient and expensive and I really think longer term that BCON is a ZERO..

    Look at their income statement and balance sheet for a few yrs..they have NEVER been able to generate sales of any size and you need to calculate their break even point, even on an operation level..for the past three years they are selling their product for LESS than it costs to manufacture it..

    LOOK

    With so many choices out there, why go with a dog?????
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    Gunners,

    My comments are about BCON the stock, not cheap stocks in this situation.

    Look closely at a few things on BCON. They have claimed the technology and potential for years..I have followed them for 5 yrs, even owned the stock at various stages and I just dont believe their product has ANY potential for large scale acceptance.

    What their technology is used for is a very small segment, fly wheel technology is inefficient and expensive and I really think longer term that BCON is a ZERO..

    Look at their income statement and balance sheet for a few yrs..they have NEVER been able to generate sales of any size and you need to calculate their break even point, even on an operation level..for the past three years they are selling their product for LESS than it costs to manufacture it..

    LOOK

    With so many choices out there, why go with a dog?????
     
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2007 - 4:58 PM ET #6

    i hear ya. 
     
    disclaimer for my following sentence: i don't mean this following sentence in a bad way at all, just curious...
     
    i don't think i've seen you like a single long position since i started reading your posts in May.  not just my picks, but anyones picks.  what do you like long?
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    i hear ya. 
     
    disclaimer for my following sentence: i don't mean this following sentence in a bad way at all, just curious...
     
    i don't think i've seen you like a single long position since i started reading your posts in May.  not just my picks, but anyones picks.  what do you like long?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2007 - 5:41 PM ET #7

    Gunners,

    I have actually posted trades I have been long..

    I just dont like BCON..lol

    I actually own more than ONE stock if you can believe that.

    My comments about BCON are from experience and research, not price or market sentiment.

    At these prices there arent many longs I like for longer term investments..at lower prices I like plenty of stocks..haha

    I do like RMBS below 14, especially with the options garbage behind them. I like CSCO, HLIT below 8..

    Lots of stocks to like, just not at these levels.

    BCON is a stock I will never like..do a news search over the last three years and tell me how many times the Nasdaq warned them about continued listing failure and how many times they have floated stock to raise money?
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    Gunners,

    I have actually posted trades I have been long..

    I just dont like BCON..lol

    I actually own more than ONE stock if you can believe that.

    My comments about BCON are from experience and research, not price or market sentiment.

    At these prices there arent many longs I like for longer term investments..at lower prices I like plenty of stocks..haha

    I do like RMBS below 14, especially with the options garbage behind them. I like CSCO, HLIT below 8..

    Lots of stocks to like, just not at these levels.

    BCON is a stock I will never like..do a news search over the last three years and tell me how many times the Nasdaq warned them about continued listing failure and how many times they have floated stock to raise money?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 30, 2007 - 8:06 AM ET #8

    I hear you.  i'm not trying to defend BCON or anything.  just curious about your positions is all.  thanks for the advice as always
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    I hear you.  i'm not trying to defend BCON or anything.  just curious about your positions is all.  thanks for the advice as always
     
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    Posted: Aug. 30, 2007 - 8:55 AM ET #9

    For what it is worth, am in complete agreement with WSC, and for all the reasons he stated.Any company that is being warned, and always floating stock is a story stock.

     I would like anyone's opinion of CMC, positive or negative.I like their fundamentals. Not sure about the industry, but the best pick I have made, almost by accident this year, has been ACH.

     
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    For what it is worth, am in complete agreement with WSC, and for all the reasons he stated.Any company that is being warned, and always floating stock is a story stock.

     I would like anyone's opinion of CMC, positive or negative.I like their fundamentals. Not sure about the industry, but the best pick I have made, almost by accident this year, has been ACH.

     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 30, 2007 - 9:21 AM ET #10

    Anyone know more than I (which is nil) regarding this man? Just curious.

    ISI's Hyman Says Fed Will Lower Rates to 4 Percent (Update3)

    By Bob Willis and Carol Massar

    Aug. 29 (Bloomberg) -- The Federal Reserve will probably cut its benchmark interest rate to 4 percent as slowing U.S. economic growth restrains inflation, said Edward Hyman, chairman of International Strategy and Investment Group.

    The worst housing slump in 16 years is weakening the economy after the Fed raised borrowing costs for two years through June 2006. A housing-industry survey conducted by Hyman's firm showed conditions are ``pretty bad'' and ``among the lowest ratings we have ever gotten,'' Hyman said.

    ``They will start to ease in a measured way, 25 basis points every meeting,'' he said in an interview in New York, referring to Fed policy makers. ``I think the economy will react favorably to it'' and probably avoid a recession, he said. A basis point is 0.01 percentage point.

    Hyman, the top-rated economist on Wall Street by Institutional Investor for the past 27 years, predicted a ``better economy next year,'' with stocks and Treasury yields rising. In the meantime, slacker growth will ``put inflation aside'' as a concern for the Fed, he added.

    As global credit markets seized up, the Fed on Aug. 17 lowered its discount rate. Traders are betting on a reduction in the federal funds rate, currently at 5.25 percent, at the next meeting of policy makers on Sept. 18.

    As monetary policy is loosened, Hyman said, ``history tells me the stock market should be going straight up.''

    Fed Deserves `Credit'

    Hyman said past Fed rate increases worked ``beautifully'' in engineering an economic slowdown that put the brakes on inflation. ``You have to give them credit. I would give the Fed an A,'' he said.

    It will take time for the economy to respond to interest- rate reductions, Hyman said, in predicting that growth would slow to as low as a 1 percent or 1.5 percent annual rate later this year before picking up in 2008.

    ``I don't think we will have a recession,'' he said. Still, judging from history, the housing recession could last another three years and subprime issues will linger, he said.

    ``It's going to get worse,'' said Hyman. ``The cuts in the rates will not do that much initially'' to ease the fallout from the subprime crisis.

    He said job growth would probably slow further, providing another ``signpost'' that would lead the Fed to cut its benchmark rate and continue easing.

    ``We're buying a future right now,'' Hyman said. ``We're buying a better outlook for the U.S. economy with growth without inflation.''


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    Anyone know more than I (which is nil) regarding this man? Just curious.

    ISI's Hyman Says Fed Will Lower Rates to 4 Percent (Update3)

    By Bob Willis and Carol Massar

    Aug. 29 (Bloomberg) -- The Federal Reserve will probably cut its benchmark interest rate to 4 percent as slowing U.S. economic growth restrains inflation, said Edward Hyman, chairman of International Strategy and Investment Group.

    The worst housing slump in 16 years is weakening the economy after the Fed raised borrowing costs for two years through June 2006. A housing-industry survey conducted by Hyman's firm showed conditions are ``pretty bad'' and ``among the lowest ratings we have ever gotten,'' Hyman said.

    ``They will start to ease in a measured way, 25 basis points every meeting,'' he said in an interview in New York, referring to Fed policy makers. ``I think the economy will react favorably to it'' and probably avoid a recession, he said. A basis point is 0.01 percentage point.

    Hyman, the top-rated economist on Wall Street by Institutional Investor for the past 27 years, predicted a ``better economy next year,'' with stocks and Treasury yields rising. In the meantime, slacker growth will ``put inflation aside'' as a concern for the Fed, he added.

    As global credit markets seized up, the Fed on Aug. 17 lowered its discount rate. Traders are betting on a reduction in the federal funds rate, currently at 5.25 percent, at the next meeting of policy makers on Sept. 18.

    As monetary policy is loosened, Hyman said, ``history tells me the stock market should be going straight up.''

    Fed Deserves `Credit'

    Hyman said past Fed rate increases worked ``beautifully'' in engineering an economic slowdown that put the brakes on inflation. ``You have to give them credit. I would give the Fed an A,'' he said.

    It will take time for the economy to respond to interest- rate reductions, Hyman said, in predicting that growth would slow to as low as a 1 percent or 1.5 percent annual rate later this year before picking up in 2008.

    ``I don't think we will have a recession,'' he said. Still, judging from history, the housing recession could last another three years and subprime issues will linger, he said.

    ``It's going to get worse,'' said Hyman. ``The cuts in the rates will not do that much initially'' to ease the fallout from the subprime crisis.

    He said job growth would probably slow further, providing another ``signpost'' that would lead the Fed to cut its benchmark rate and continue easing.

    ``We're buying a future right now,'' Hyman said. ``We're buying a better outlook for the U.S. economy with growth without inflation.''


     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2007 - 1:48 PM ET #11

    just saw this thread.  i have been following bcon on and off for a long time.  i bought some a couple of months ago on its big run up to 2.37.  i just got out again at 1.83 personally its going to take time as they do not have much cash to work with.   if you are willing to be in u must understand that they are going to need money and how they set that up will be key. i look for seel offs and then momentum and trade it.  best of luck
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    just saw this thread.  i have been following bcon on and off for a long time.  i bought some a couple of months ago on its big run up to 2.37.  i just got out again at 1.83 personally its going to take time as they do not have much cash to work with.   if you are willing to be in u must understand that they are going to need money and how they set that up will be key. i look for seel offs and then momentum and trade it.  best of luck
     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2007 - 2:25 PM ET #12

    i made a 2% gain trade on this, selling yesterday.  not really going to mess with it again because i'm taking WSC's advice. 
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    i made a 2% gain trade on this, selling yesterday.  not really going to mess with it again because i'm taking WSC's advice. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2007 - 2:34 PM ET #13

    Gunners,

    I dont want to keep you from making money, I just dont believe BCON can ever be somthing large. Their product isnt for retail use, it really is quite expensive capital wise for a company to purchase, from what I remember its purpose is for BACKUP power with the flywheel technology.

    Like we have discussed before, the company always sells shares on the back of investors since they fail to make money from operations and not too many banks are going to lend them money at reasonable terms. The floating will always be there for the company and in the past they get TERRIBLE terms..

    So many better alt-energy stocks out there, I just think BCON is a nobody and should be monitored closely if you are ever long the stock.

    If it goes to 80 to 70 cents, yeah its worth a shot...
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    Gunners,

    I dont want to keep you from making money, I just dont believe BCON can ever be somthing large. Their product isnt for retail use, it really is quite expensive capital wise for a company to purchase, from what I remember its purpose is for BACKUP power with the flywheel technology.

    Like we have discussed before, the company always sells shares on the back of investors since they fail to make money from operations and not too many banks are going to lend them money at reasonable terms. The floating will always be there for the company and in the past they get TERRIBLE terms..

    So many better alt-energy stocks out there, I just think BCON is a nobody and should be monitored closely if you are ever long the stock.

    If it goes to 80 to 70 cents, yeah its worth a shot...
     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2007 - 3:33 PM ET #14

     
     
    watch it on strong volume!
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    watch it on strong volume!
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2007 - 10:28 AM ET #15

    break out today.  i don't see any news either
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    break out today.  i don't see any news either
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