As of late, track Conditions have not been accurate.. I'm sure it's not a deliberate act. For the last 5 years I have been betting 3-4 horses each morning. These tracks have been good and bad too me. But, we obviously do much better when we have information like track conditions. As Im writing this, I now have a thought that it may be the fault of FanDuel. Does anyone else have an issue with seeing this information? And which app do you use? Let's start there.
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Good Morning Covers Friends,
As of late, track Conditions have not been accurate.. I'm sure it's not a deliberate act. For the last 5 years I have been betting 3-4 horses each morning. These tracks have been good and bad too me. But, we obviously do much better when we have information like track conditions. As Im writing this, I now have a thought that it may be the fault of FanDuel. Does anyone else have an issue with seeing this information? And which app do you use? Let's start there.
I use TwinSpires for track conditions. But frankly before I even look at the conditions, the scratches immediately give me a clue that the conditions will not be fast & firm. I also know that tracks are upgraded/downgraded as the racing day takes place based on the drying out caused by rain, sun & wind.
We all check horses for their breeding & past performances on "off" tracks but what do we do when horses have never raced over that type of surface & that's the conundrum I have in making a selection.
And then a horse with no off track data or breeding clues wins going away like Secretariat. Unless I'm really Jonesing for action, I'll stay away from playing a race based on track conditions.
@wildwelder303
I use TwinSpires for track conditions. But frankly before I even look at the conditions, the scratches immediately give me a clue that the conditions will not be fast & firm. I also know that tracks are upgraded/downgraded as the racing day takes place based on the drying out caused by rain, sun & wind.
We all check horses for their breeding & past performances on "off" tracks but what do we do when horses have never raced over that type of surface & that's the conundrum I have in making a selection.
And then a horse with no off track data or breeding clues wins going away like Secretariat. Unless I'm really Jonesing for action, I'll stay away from playing a race based on track conditions.
Good Morning Covers Friends, As of late, track Conditions have not been accurate.. I'm sure it's not a deliberate act. For the last 5 years I have been betting 3-4 horses each morning. These tracks have been good and bad too me. But, we obviously do much better when we have information like track conditions. As Im writing this, I now have a thought that it may be the fault of FanDuel. Does anyone else have an issue with seeing this information? And which app do you use? Let's start there. BestOfLuck TheWelder
To me, your eyes and ears are the most important things in trying to assess the track conditions. They allow you to see and hear the races. After a while, one can make the distinctions between surfaces and pace.
Online resources for track conditions can easily be found on equibase and daily racing form. Whatever track you're wagering upon had it's own website, as such there's a section for track changes. Twin Spires and TVG, horse watering websites, provide the information shortly after being updated by/from the track. To me, it's very important that you take notice of the time when the changes take place.
I have a document about track conditions stored on the desktops' hard drive. I found it to be helpful, informative and useful. I will look for it next time(s) I'm there (desktop) in hopes of locating it - worse case is I printed it and put in a few binders.
Watch each race live taking notes of what you see, review them during the race day, they are a useful source of information. After each dirt race the track gets harrowed (grated) watch what and where the truck is riding.
Hope this will help you some.
Quote Originally Posted by wildwelder303:
Good Morning Covers Friends, As of late, track Conditions have not been accurate.. I'm sure it's not a deliberate act. For the last 5 years I have been betting 3-4 horses each morning. These tracks have been good and bad too me. But, we obviously do much better when we have information like track conditions. As Im writing this, I now have a thought that it may be the fault of FanDuel. Does anyone else have an issue with seeing this information? And which app do you use? Let's start there. BestOfLuck TheWelder
To me, your eyes and ears are the most important things in trying to assess the track conditions. They allow you to see and hear the races. After a while, one can make the distinctions between surfaces and pace.
Online resources for track conditions can easily be found on equibase and daily racing form. Whatever track you're wagering upon had it's own website, as such there's a section for track changes. Twin Spires and TVG, horse watering websites, provide the information shortly after being updated by/from the track. To me, it's very important that you take notice of the time when the changes take place.
I have a document about track conditions stored on the desktops' hard drive. I found it to be helpful, informative and useful. I will look for it next time(s) I'm there (desktop) in hopes of locating it - worse case is I printed it and put in a few binders.
Watch each race live taking notes of what you see, review them during the race day, they are a useful source of information. After each dirt race the track gets harrowed (grated) watch what and where the truck is riding.
@wildwelder303 I use TwinSpires for track conditions. But frankly before I even look at the conditions, the scratches immediately give me a clue that the conditions will not be fast & firm. I also know that tracks are upgraded/downgraded as the racing day takes place based on the drying out caused by rain, sun & wind. We all check horses for their breeding & past performances on "off" tracks but what do we do when horses have never raced over that type of surface & that's the conundrum I have in making a selection. And then a horse with no off track data or breeding clues wins going away like Secretariat. Unless I'm really Jonesing for action, I'll stay away from playing a race based on track conditions.
You bring up great points for him.
I also use accu weather to get long range forecasts and when it keeps showing rain, high winds etc greater than 60%, after I break down the races for fast/firm, I'll do those races again with the greater than 60% changes - mostly so I won't have to redo each race from the beginning.
They have free breeding/pedigree sites, giving 5 or 6 generations with CD and dosage. Right now, Tapit blood is doing well in off track races. Lemon Drop Kid, while a dirt horse, has decent success with his off spring on the lawn.
Tampa has a card for tomorrow, Wednesday. Hope you'll have a few thoughts on the card. Just as a heads up, no turf racing scheduled.
Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
@wildwelder303 I use TwinSpires for track conditions. But frankly before I even look at the conditions, the scratches immediately give me a clue that the conditions will not be fast & firm. I also know that tracks are upgraded/downgraded as the racing day takes place based on the drying out caused by rain, sun & wind. We all check horses for their breeding & past performances on "off" tracks but what do we do when horses have never raced over that type of surface & that's the conundrum I have in making a selection. And then a horse with no off track data or breeding clues wins going away like Secretariat. Unless I'm really Jonesing for action, I'll stay away from playing a race based on track conditions.
You bring up great points for him.
I also use accu weather to get long range forecasts and when it keeps showing rain, high winds etc greater than 60%, after I break down the races for fast/firm, I'll do those races again with the greater than 60% changes - mostly so I won't have to redo each race from the beginning.
They have free breeding/pedigree sites, giving 5 or 6 generations with CD and dosage. Right now, Tapit blood is doing well in off track races. Lemon Drop Kid, while a dirt horse, has decent success with his off spring on the lawn.
Tampa has a card for tomorrow, Wednesday. Hope you'll have a few thoughts on the card. Just as a heads up, no turf racing scheduled.
You made me laugh when you mentioned "horse watering websites." I had never heard that term.
In racing you just never know. For example, a race comes off the grass & you get 3 scratches & 2 AE horses get into the race. Right away, the AE's are "live" to me & now have to decide if those still in the race like the dirt/synthetic or the horse just really needs a race.
The limited breeding knowledge I have came to me over the years. I've always been a big fan of Frosted & Distorted Humor. Also like Speightstown.
Then you have workouts & how much do they really tell us. Asmussen is infamous for not showing anything in workouts & then bang has a 1st timer win with ease.
Another data point I watch is the hot owners. Lately, I've been playing Klaravich, Flying P Stables, Repole & a few others. Just more data to screw with our heads.
I absolutely suck at Tampa but I just keep swinging away. I see Gallardo is back for the winter & the Camacho/Gerald Bennett combo is always something to check out. If I see anything at Tampa or Churchill, I'll certainly post it.
@TheBlackKnight
You made me laugh when you mentioned "horse watering websites." I had never heard that term.
In racing you just never know. For example, a race comes off the grass & you get 3 scratches & 2 AE horses get into the race. Right away, the AE's are "live" to me & now have to decide if those still in the race like the dirt/synthetic or the horse just really needs a race.
The limited breeding knowledge I have came to me over the years. I've always been a big fan of Frosted & Distorted Humor. Also like Speightstown.
Then you have workouts & how much do they really tell us. Asmussen is infamous for not showing anything in workouts & then bang has a 1st timer win with ease.
Another data point I watch is the hot owners. Lately, I've been playing Klaravich, Flying P Stables, Repole & a few others. Just more data to screw with our heads.
I absolutely suck at Tampa but I just keep swinging away. I see Gallardo is back for the winter & the Camacho/Gerald Bennett combo is always something to check out. If I see anything at Tampa or Churchill, I'll certainly post it.
@TheBlackKnight You made me laugh when you mentioned "horse watering websites." I had never heard that term. In racing you just never know. For example, a race comes off the grass & you get 3 scratches & 2 AE horses get into the race. Right away, the AE's are "live" to me & now have to decide if those still in the race like the dirt/synthetic or the horse just really needs a race. The limited breeding knowledge I have came to me over the years. I've always been a big fan of Frosted & Distorted Humor. Also like Speightstown. Then you have workouts & how much do they really tell us. Asmussen is infamous for not showing anything in workouts & then bang has a 1st timer win with ease. Another data point I watch is the hot owners. Lately, I've been playing Klaravich, Flying P Stables, Repole & a few others. Just more data to screw with our heads. I absolutely suck at Tampa but I just keep swinging away. I see Gallardo is back for the winter & the Camacho/Gerald Bennett combo is always something to check out. If I see anything at Tampa or Churchill, I'll certainly post it.
I know, from any term but it doesn't hurt to be prepared. The only way I'd consider the we'd if the race comes off the lawn is if they were MTO. Scratches change the body of the race, to me, a great deal. Gallardo the last few meets at Tampa has a higher win rate on the lawn than the dirt. That combo gets pounded a lot all meet. Hopefully you'll find a race or more to your liking.
Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
@TheBlackKnight You made me laugh when you mentioned "horse watering websites." I had never heard that term. In racing you just never know. For example, a race comes off the grass & you get 3 scratches & 2 AE horses get into the race. Right away, the AE's are "live" to me & now have to decide if those still in the race like the dirt/synthetic or the horse just really needs a race. The limited breeding knowledge I have came to me over the years. I've always been a big fan of Frosted & Distorted Humor. Also like Speightstown. Then you have workouts & how much do they really tell us. Asmussen is infamous for not showing anything in workouts & then bang has a 1st timer win with ease. Another data point I watch is the hot owners. Lately, I've been playing Klaravich, Flying P Stables, Repole & a few others. Just more data to screw with our heads. I absolutely suck at Tampa but I just keep swinging away. I see Gallardo is back for the winter & the Camacho/Gerald Bennett combo is always something to check out. If I see anything at Tampa or Churchill, I'll certainly post it.
I know, from any term but it doesn't hurt to be prepared. The only way I'd consider the we'd if the race comes off the lawn is if they were MTO. Scratches change the body of the race, to me, a great deal. Gallardo the last few meets at Tampa has a higher win rate on the lawn than the dirt. That combo gets pounded a lot all meet. Hopefully you'll find a race or more to your liking.
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