Commandment's Kentucky Derby bid was compromised by a sluggish start, a wide overland trip, and late race traffic.
Racing mid-pack, he was forced to go five-wide on the far turn and was severely bounced around in tight quarters during the stretch drive, ultimately finishing seventh.
The key factors that derailed his race included a Slow Break: Commandment broke slowly and was left sitting 13th through the half-mile mark, forcing him to play catch-up.
The "Overland" Route: Under jockey Luis Saez,in which he made a strong move but was forced to race at least five paths wide on the far turn, covering much more ground than the inside horses.
Stretch Traffic: After kicking for home with a legitimate chance, he got bounced around in traffic while racing between rivals in the stretch, causing him to lose momentum and failed to threaten the leaders.Despite the trouble, the Brad Cox-trained colt came out of the race in good form and I'm expecting an entirely different outcome with this longer stretch and fewer horses.
I seen the race with the cluster of horses down the stretch and seen that No doubt Commandment was getting bounced around like a ping pong ball.
Many of other in the race that are top tier horses got bounced around as well.
Don't know if this strong closer has got what it takes to overcome this field but I sure would hate to go a different way and have Commandment run a race style that prevails and wins the Belmont at a good price based on his seventh place finish in the Derby.
Thoughts?
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Commandment's Kentucky Derby bid was compromised by a sluggish start, a wide overland trip, and late race traffic.
Racing mid-pack, he was forced to go five-wide on the far turn and was severely bounced around in tight quarters during the stretch drive, ultimately finishing seventh.
The key factors that derailed his race included a Slow Break: Commandment broke slowly and was left sitting 13th through the half-mile mark, forcing him to play catch-up.
The "Overland" Route: Under jockey Luis Saez,in which he made a strong move but was forced to race at least five paths wide on the far turn, covering much more ground than the inside horses.
Stretch Traffic: After kicking for home with a legitimate chance, he got bounced around in traffic while racing between rivals in the stretch, causing him to lose momentum and failed to threaten the leaders.Despite the trouble, the Brad Cox-trained colt came out of the race in good form and I'm expecting an entirely different outcome with this longer stretch and fewer horses.
I seen the race with the cluster of horses down the stretch and seen that No doubt Commandment was getting bounced around like a ping pong ball.
Many of other in the race that are top tier horses got bounced around as well.
Don't know if this strong closer has got what it takes to overcome this field but I sure would hate to go a different way and have Commandment run a race style that prevails and wins the Belmont at a good price based on his seventh place finish in the Derby.
Agree with much of what you said. He definitely got interfered with, especially into the final turn. One thing to keep in mind, when the triple crown isn’t in play. Double digit horses, percentage wise prevail. You’ll be getting decent odds on the Derby champ. I’m sort of interested in the Pletcher trained Peter Pan winner to round out the tri. Gl pal.
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Agree with much of what you said. He definitely got interfered with, especially into the final turn. One thing to keep in mind, when the triple crown isn’t in play. Double digit horses, percentage wise prevail. You’ll be getting decent odds on the Derby champ. I’m sort of interested in the Pletcher trained Peter Pan winner to round out the tri. Gl pal.
Good luck to you as well on Growth equity as you indeed will have some fresh legs and though he is coming out of a G3 class of horses and now enters a G1 dominate field it will be interesting to see how he performs.
Growth equity won clean by two lengths in the peter pan and will most definitely be challenged in the belmont.
Then again with a grueling mile and a half race anything can happen and I'm expecting a speed duel up front with the Kentucky derby winner and honcho up top and hoping Commandment barrels out with a late burst of stalking speed on the end to overtake those two with NO interference and win in an impressive closing fashion....but again, easier said than done.
I will be involved with some gimmicks in the Belmont and will be sure to take some consideration with a good hard look at chief wallabe and growth equity as well as a few others as I await the draw come the first of June.
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Good luck to you as well on Growth equity as you indeed will have some fresh legs and though he is coming out of a G3 class of horses and now enters a G1 dominate field it will be interesting to see how he performs.
Growth equity won clean by two lengths in the peter pan and will most definitely be challenged in the belmont.
Then again with a grueling mile and a half race anything can happen and I'm expecting a speed duel up front with the Kentucky derby winner and honcho up top and hoping Commandment barrels out with a late burst of stalking speed on the end to overtake those two with NO interference and win in an impressive closing fashion....but again, easier said than done.
I will be involved with some gimmicks in the Belmont and will be sure to take some consideration with a good hard look at chief wallabe and growth equity as well as a few others as I await the draw come the first of June.
Looking forward to the Belmont and thanks for the early thoughts. Just a quick reminder, they will still be running it in Saratoga this year and the race will be run at a mile and a quarter. Best of luck with the analysis and the race. Hope we all cash!
Have a great Memorial Day Weekend
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Good Morning @justliketoplay
Looking forward to the Belmont and thanks for the early thoughts. Just a quick reminder, they will still be running it in Saratoga this year and the race will be run at a mile and a quarter. Best of luck with the analysis and the race. Hope we all cash!
These past couple of races and the changes in venues definitely has its confusions.
Have yourself a fine memorial day and to all as well and thanks to our military, first responders and to all that have fought for us so we may all have our freedom in our wonderful and beautiful country....the U.S.A.
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es! Correct indeed a mile and an eighth
These past couple of races and the changes in venues definitely has its confusions.
Have yourself a fine memorial day and to all as well and thanks to our military, first responders and to all that have fought for us so we may all have our freedom in our wonderful and beautiful country....the U.S.A.
Yep I also had Commandment in the Derby and seen all the trouble he was in. I am also gonna play him back here in the "Belmont" race exactly for the reasons you listed less horses to maneuver around for a clear stretch run. I believe he will run down the speed horses and at worst be part of the exacta in second. No triple crown up for grabs anything could come in.
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Yep I also had Commandment in the Derby and seen all the trouble he was in. I am also gonna play him back here in the "Belmont" race exactly for the reasons you listed less horses to maneuver around for a clear stretch run. I believe he will run down the speed horses and at worst be part of the exacta in second. No triple crown up for grabs anything could come in.
Some informative information on the Belmont field that you may use to handicap and to help in possibly making your final race day decision fellas.....Good luck
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Some informative information on the Belmont field that you may use to handicap and to help in possibly making your final race day decision fellas.....Good luck
i added golden tempo to my card on Saturday as well.
This horse is the real deal in this race and shouldn't be overlooked as he may very well be victorious and should most definitely, be in any and all gimmicks.
His last two Friday workouts have been bullets and I mean bullets! The clockers may not of expressed this but those that have been paying attention.....have
My final card/lay will be given later today or early tomorrow for those that would like to tail or possibly fade me.
Have fun tomorrow with the Belmont wherever you decide to view and most certainly good luck to all!
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i added golden tempo to my card on Saturday as well.
This horse is the real deal in this race and shouldn't be overlooked as he may very well be victorious and should most definitely, be in any and all gimmicks.
His last two Friday workouts have been bullets and I mean bullets! The clockers may not of expressed this but those that have been paying attention.....have
My final card/lay will be given later today or early tomorrow for those that would like to tail or possibly fade me.
Have fun tomorrow with the Belmont wherever you decide to view and most certainly good luck to all!
If you get bored in between the 40+ min time between races & are looking to play elsewhere, I just noticed Gafflione is on the favorite in 8 of the 11 races at Churchill. He doesn't have a mount in 2 races & is 8-1 in his only other mount.
The kid good make some good moolah tomorrow.
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If you get bored in between the 40+ min time between races & are looking to play elsewhere, I just noticed Gafflione is on the favorite in 8 of the 11 races at Churchill. He doesn't have a mount in 2 races & is 8-1 in his only other mount.
Prior to Commandment’s 7th, he won 4 of his first 5 races . He has the longest winning streak in the field with 4 which is indeed impressive. It’s not like he’s suddenly this bad horse with his showing off his last race which again was troubled.
I've done this before in horses with a second chance most notably several years back in which I liked A horse named Sunday silence who lost to easy goer in both the Derby and the Preakness in extremely close races but then came the grueling Belmont and I stuck with Sunday silence whom prevailed at a nice price.
Napoleon Solo is a perfect example candidate which I had in the Preakness in which he ran a pair of back to back 5th place finishes but I felt like Sunday Silence deserved another chance especially after hearing about his hoof issues that was discovered prior to the Preakness and sure enough.....waila! A nice price in return as well.
Good luck tomorrow fellas
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Prior to Commandment’s 7th, he won 4 of his first 5 races . He has the longest winning streak in the field with 4 which is indeed impressive. It’s not like he’s suddenly this bad horse with his showing off his last race which again was troubled.
I've done this before in horses with a second chance most notably several years back in which I liked A horse named Sunday silence who lost to easy goer in both the Derby and the Preakness in extremely close races but then came the grueling Belmont and I stuck with Sunday silence whom prevailed at a nice price.
Napoleon Solo is a perfect example candidate which I had in the Preakness in which he ran a pair of back to back 5th place finishes but I felt like Sunday Silence deserved another chance especially after hearing about his hoof issues that was discovered prior to the Preakness and sure enough.....waila! A nice price in return as well.
Can't say I didn't call that one! Original post coupled with my post nine Golden Tempo makes me a happy man today with a ten dollar perfecta box and a twenty on both horses in the top two with Golden Tempo prevailing over my first choice Commandment. I also had a 5,3,9,7 one dollar trifecta box for a 24 dollar lay that came awfully Close. My post nine was no bullshit.....that Golden Tempo was fired up And ready!!
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Can't say I didn't call that one! Original post coupled with my post nine Golden Tempo makes me a happy man today with a ten dollar perfecta box and a twenty on both horses in the top two with Golden Tempo prevailing over my first choice Commandment. I also had a 5,3,9,7 one dollar trifecta box for a 24 dollar lay that came awfully Close. My post nine was no bullshit.....that Golden Tempo was fired up And ready!!
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