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    best post positions to win the derby

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    search it found it  this is facts

    Post Nos. 5 and 20 generally have the best win percentage (10.5% each) for Derby horses. But last year, neither position produced a top-five horse. Post No. 17 remains as the only regularly used position that has yet to produce a winner with only three in-the-money finishes, making it the least favorable spot. When it comes to a top-three placing, Post No. 10 is the best option, having a horse finish in-the-money during 29.5% of the 88 races the post has been used.

    Before you place your bets, here’s a look at where the most winners and in-the-money horses have come from:

    Fastest winner: Hill Gail, 2:01 3/5 (1952)

    Record (Entries-win-place-show): 95-8-5-5

    Win percentage: 8.4%

    In-the-money percentage: 18.9%

    Ferdinand (1986) was the last horse to win at this position, with the average placing for horses being 8.2.

    Fastest winner: Affirmed, 2:01 1/5 (1978)

    Record (Entries-win-place-show): 95-7-6-13

    Win percentage: 7.4%

    In-the-money percentage: 27.4%

    Boasts the second-best rate (27.4%) of horses finishing top three among the 20 post positions. Four of the seven wins from this spot came in the 1970s: Dust Commander (1970), Cannonade (1974), Bold Forbes (1976) and Affirmed (1978). There have been no winners since.

    Win percentage: 6.3%

    In-the-money percentage: 23.2%

    Two of the six wins from this post came in the 1970s — 1975 (Foolish Pleasure) and 1979 (Spectacular Bid) — with Mystik Dan adding a win to the position last year. It's the third straight year the post has had a top-three horse after Two Phil's finished second in 2023 and Epicenter was the 2022 runner-up.

    Record (Entries-win-place-show): 95-5-6-4

    Win percentage: 5.3%

    In-the-money percentage: 15.8%

    Super Saver’s 2010 Derby victory was the last for the post.

    Fastest winner: War Emblem, 2:01.13 (2002)

    Record (Entries-win-place-show): 95-10-8-4

    Win percentage: 10.5%

    In-the-money percentage: 23.2%

    The winningest position with 10 champions. Four have come since 2000: War Emblem (2002), Funny Cide (2003), California Chrome (2014) and Always Dreaming (2017).

    Record (Entries-win-place-show): 95-2-8-3

    Win percentage: 2.1%

    In-the-money percentage: 13.7%

    Has the least number of wins of the first 10 posts with two but has eight second-place finishes, tied with Posts 3 and 5 for the most. Good Magic finished second in 2018 from the sixth post.

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    search it found it  this is facts

    Post Nos. 5 and 20 generally have the best win percentage (10.5% each) for Derby horses. But last year, neither position produced a top-five horse. Post No. 17 remains as the only regularly used position that has yet to produce a winner with only three in-the-money finishes, making it the least favorable spot. When it comes to a top-three placing, Post No. 10 is the best option, having a horse finish in-the-money during 29.5% of the 88 races the post has been used.

    Before you place your bets, here’s a look at where the most winners and in-the-money horses have come from:

    Fastest winner: Hill Gail, 2:01 3/5 (1952)

    Record (Entries-win-place-show): 95-8-5-5

    Win percentage: 8.4%

    In-the-money percentage: 18.9%

    Ferdinand (1986) was the last horse to win at this position, with the average placing for horses being 8.2.

    Fastest winner: Affirmed, 2:01 1/5 (1978)

    Record (Entries-win-place-show): 95-7-6-13

    Win percentage: 7.4%

    In-the-money percentage: 27.4%

    Boasts the second-best rate (27.4%) of horses finishing top three among the 20 post positions. Four of the seven wins from this spot came in the 1970s: Dust Commander (1970), Cannonade (1974), Bold Forbes (1976) and Affirmed (1978). There have been no winners since.

    Win percentage: 6.3%

    In-the-money percentage: 23.2%

    Two of the six wins from this post came in the 1970s — 1975 (Foolish Pleasure) and 1979 (Spectacular Bid) — with Mystik Dan adding a win to the position last year. It's the third straight year the post has had a top-three horse after Two Phil's finished second in 2023 and Epicenter was the 2022 runner-up.

    Record (Entries-win-place-show): 95-5-6-4

    Win percentage: 5.3%

    In-the-money percentage: 15.8%

    Super Saver’s 2010 Derby victory was the last for the post.

    Fastest winner: War Emblem, 2:01.13 (2002)

    Record (Entries-win-place-show): 95-10-8-4

    Win percentage: 10.5%

    In-the-money percentage: 23.2%

    The winningest position with 10 champions. Four have come since 2000: War Emblem (2002), Funny Cide (2003), California Chrome (2014) and Always Dreaming (2017).

    Record (Entries-win-place-show): 95-2-8-3

    Win percentage: 2.1%

    In-the-money percentage: 13.7%

    Has the least number of wins of the first 10 posts with two but has eight second-place finishes, tied with Posts 3 and 5 for the most. Good Magic finished second in 2018 from the sixth post.

     
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    STRAT ING ANOYJER THREAD FOR SOME REASON POSTPOSTION DID NOTPASTE

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    Posted: May. 2, 2025 - 5:12 PM ET #3

    PP 17 is the only post that scares me, but sooner or later that will end. Maybe tomorrow with Sandman.

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    PP 17 is the only post that scares me, but sooner or later that will end. Maybe tomorrow with Sandman.

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