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    Wave of TV Ads Opposing Iran Deal Organized By Saudi Arabian Lobbyist

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    Posted: Aug. 30, 2015 - 11:28 AM ET #1

    https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/08/20/wave-anti-iran-deal-tv-ads-organized-saudi-arabian-lobbyist/

    Television stations across the country are being flooded with $6 million of advertisements from a group called the “American Security Initiative” urging citizens to call their U.S. Senators and oppose the nuclear deal with Iran.

    Though the American Security Initiative does not reveal donor information, the president of the new group, former Sen. Norm Coleman, R-Minn., is a registered lobbyist for Saudi Arabia. Coleman’s firm, Hogan Lovells, is on retainer to the Saudi Arabian monarchy for $60,000 a month. In July 2014, Coleman described his work as “providing legal services to the Royal Embassy of Saudi Arabia” on issues including “legal and policy developments involving Iran and limiting Iranian nuclear capability.”

    The co-chairs of the American Security Initiative include former Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., former Sen. Evan Bayh, D-Ind., and former Sen. Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga. Chambliss works at DLA Piper, another lobbying firm retained to influence U.S. policy on behalf of the Royal Embassy of Saudi Arabia.

    The advertising effort is part of a fierce lobbying campaign to convince senators to support legislation expressing disapproval of the international accord with Iran, which will lift economic sanctions on Iran in exchange for inspections of the Iranian nuclear industry to ensure that it remains peaceful. The vote is scheduled to take place in September.

    Saudi Arabia and other Sunni-led Persian Gulf governments have long viewed Iran as a regional adversary. The rivalry stems from the Sunni-Shiite sectarian divide, and experts also believe Iranian oil exports could challenge Saudi Arabia’s dominance in the market. The crises in Syria and in Yemen have become proxy wars between the two nations as Saudi Arabia and Iran are playing an active role in fueling opposing sides in both conflicts.

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    Television stations across the country are being flooded with $6 million of advertisements from a group called the “American Security Initiative” urging citizens to call their U.S. Senators and oppose the nuclear deal with Iran.

    Though the American Security Initiative does not reveal donor information, the president of the new group, former Sen. Norm Coleman, R-Minn., is a registered lobbyist for Saudi Arabia. Coleman’s firm, Hogan Lovells, is on retainer to the Saudi Arabian monarchy for $60,000 a month. In July 2014, Coleman described his work as “providing legal services to the Royal Embassy of Saudi Arabia” on issues including “legal and policy developments involving Iran and limiting Iranian nuclear capability.”

    The co-chairs of the American Security Initiative include former Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., former Sen. Evan Bayh, D-Ind., and former Sen. Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga. Chambliss works at DLA Piper, another lobbying firm retained to influence U.S. policy on behalf of the Royal Embassy of Saudi Arabia.

    The advertising effort is part of a fierce lobbying campaign to convince senators to support legislation expressing disapproval of the international accord with Iran, which will lift economic sanctions on Iran in exchange for inspections of the Iranian nuclear industry to ensure that it remains peaceful. The vote is scheduled to take place in September.

    Saudi Arabia and other Sunni-led Persian Gulf governments have long viewed Iran as a regional adversary. The rivalry stems from the Sunni-Shiite sectarian divide, and experts also believe Iranian oil exports could challenge Saudi Arabia’s dominance in the market. The crises in Syria and in Yemen have become proxy wars between the two nations as Saudi Arabia and Iran are playing an active role in fueling opposing sides in both conflicts.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 30, 2015 - 3:23 PM ET #2

    This is supposed to be a surprise to anyone?
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    This is supposed to be a surprise to anyone?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 30, 2015 - 3:58 PM ET #3

    Apparently the DNC is being swayed by the ads because they can't agree to support the deal. Damn advertising is really strong...

    Just so you know, everyone knows its a pathetic deal, 2nd only to the traitor for 5 Taliban commanders. The (r's) don't need anyone calling them, they already know. 
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    Apparently the DNC is being swayed by the ads because they can't agree to support the deal. Damn advertising is really strong...

    Just so you know, everyone knows its a pathetic deal, 2nd only to the traitor for 5 Taliban commanders. The (r's) don't need anyone calling them, they already know. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

    Apparently the DNC is being swayed by the ads because they can't agree to support the deal. Damn advertising is really strong...

    Just so you know, everyone knows its a pathetic deal, 2nd only to the traitor for 5 Taliban commanders. The (r's) don't need anyone calling them, they already know. 

    What does "everyone" know? Why is it a "pathetic" deal? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

    Apparently the DNC is being swayed by the ads because they can't agree to support the deal. Damn advertising is really strong...

    Just so you know, everyone knows its a pathetic deal, 2nd only to the traitor for 5 Taliban commanders. The (r's) don't need anyone calling them, they already know. 

    What does "everyone" know? Why is it a "pathetic" deal? 
     
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    Yes, do tell.  Why is it a pathetic deal?

    Because the Markets are flooded with a glut of Iranian oil and Americans are finally paying a fair price for gasoline at $2 gallon instead of being at the mercy of the Saudi King who can turn the spigot off and on at his leisure?


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    Yes, do tell.  Why is it a pathetic deal?

    Because the Markets are flooded with a glut of Iranian oil and Americans are finally paying a fair price for gasoline at $2 gallon instead of being at the mercy of the Saudi King who can turn the spigot off and on at his leisure?


     
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    And by the way, Norm Coleman is retired from political office.  Good riddance.  He is of J-e-w-i-s-h heritage and frequently puts his love of I-s-r-a-e-l before his own USA.  We see this all the time.  Much like traitor Joe Lieberman who got run out of CT office on the rails.
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    And by the way, Norm Coleman is retired from political office.  Good riddance.  He is of J-e-w-i-s-h heritage and frequently puts his love of I-s-r-a-e-l before his own USA.  We see this all the time.  Much like traitor Joe Lieberman who got run out of CT office on the rails.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 30, 2015 - 7:45 PM ET #7

    I saw one of these ads about a month ago and was shocked to see that it took the OP this long to put up his usual cut and past with link thread.

    I must have underestimated the power of Nick at Nite's "Murder She Wrote" and "Newhart" marathons.

    Once the OP gets into those, I guess it could take months to pry him away.

     Either that or he was just busy scouring foreign based news websites looking for more dirt on the Saudis.

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    I saw one of these ads about a month ago and was shocked to see that it took the OP this long to put up his usual cut and past with link thread.

    I must have underestimated the power of Nick at Nite's "Murder She Wrote" and "Newhart" marathons.

    Once the OP gets into those, I guess it could take months to pry him away.

     Either that or he was just busy scouring foreign based news websites looking for more dirt on the Saudis.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 30, 2015 - 8:10 PM ET #8

    24 days notice before inspections (what moron agrees to that). No American inspectors permitted. "Side deals" that only God knows what Lurch/0 agreed to. Those two are shrewd negotiators, they got schooled in the Bergdahl deal by the Taliban. This deal will Trump that one.

    Oil is $45 a barrel, we're still being raped at the pump whether Iran is in or out. 

    Detox, you need to get up to date on public information. Earlier not knowing the extent of the pharmacy looting in Baltimore during the Freddie riots and not knowing we have to give Iran 24 days notice prior to inspections - and that's not the complete amount of notice and we're not allowed to use any American inspectors only foreign. The good news is that Israel will be the ultimate judge of this pathetic deal and if it warrants taking out the nuclear sites, they will do what 0 is either hesitant to do or actually supports Iran.
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    24 days notice before inspections (what moron agrees to that). No American inspectors permitted. "Side deals" that only God knows what Lurch/0 agreed to. Those two are shrewd negotiators, they got schooled in the Bergdahl deal by the Taliban. This deal will Trump that one.

    Oil is $45 a barrel, we're still being raped at the pump whether Iran is in or out. 

    Detox, you need to get up to date on public information. Earlier not knowing the extent of the pharmacy looting in Baltimore during the Freddie riots and not knowing we have to give Iran 24 days notice prior to inspections - and that's not the complete amount of notice and we're not allowed to use any American inspectors only foreign. The good news is that Israel will be the ultimate judge of this pathetic deal and if it warrants taking out the nuclear sites, they will do what 0 is either hesitant to do or actually supports Iran.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 30, 2015 - 9:40 PM ET #9


    Israel would NEVER take on Iran without the United States. 
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    Israel would NEVER take on Iran without the United States. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 30, 2015 - 10:22 PM ET #10

    Why Not ?

    Israel was without the US when it bombed and destroyed Iraq's Osirak nuclear research facility near Baghdad in 1981...and Israel is more ready now than it was then ...better intel, F-35 fighter jets and other platforms.
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    Why Not ?

    Israel was without the US when it bombed and destroyed Iraq's Osirak nuclear research facility near Baghdad in 1981...and Israel is more ready now than it was then ...better intel, F-35 fighter jets and other platforms.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Why Not ?

    Israel was without the US when it bombed and destroyed Iraq's Osirak nuclear research facility near Baghdad in 1981...and Israel is more ready now than it was then ...better intel, F-35 fighter jets and other platforms.

    Because they would crucify each other. They're too evenly matched. 


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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Why Not ?

    Israel was without the US when it bombed and destroyed Iraq's Osirak nuclear research facility near Baghdad in 1981...and Israel is more ready now than it was then ...better intel, F-35 fighter jets and other platforms.

    Because they would crucify each other. They're too evenly matched. 


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:


    Because they would crucify each other. They're too evenly matched. 





    More crucifixions ? Damn !
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:


    Because they would crucify each other. They're too evenly matched. 





    More crucifixions ? Damn !
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:


    Because they would crucify each other. They're too evenly matched.


     
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     Not, if Israel uses (and they will) a successful decapitation strike. Iran will not have the ability to use its weapons.
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    Because they would crucify each other. They're too evenly matched.


     
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     Not, if Israel uses (and they will) a successful decapitation strike. Iran will not have the ability to use its weapons.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 31, 2015 - 12:50 AM ET #14

    Detox - you ever hear of the 6 Day War? Israel wiped the street with all of them. History would repeat itself again. If Israel feels it has no choice, it'll go after them and if 0's ridiculous agreement passes, the clock starts ticking.
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    Detox - you ever hear of the 6 Day War? Israel wiped the street with all of them. History would repeat itself again. If Israel feels it has no choice, it'll go after them and if 0's ridiculous agreement passes, the clock starts ticking.
     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 31, 2015 - 1:27 AM ET #15

    On Wednesday, Sept. 9, there will be a massive rally in Washington, D.C. to encourage legislators to vote against the Nuclear Iran Deal...

    Something,, I can never remember happening ..will happen at that rally.  Sen.Ted Cruz  invited Trump to join him at the Capitol Hill event and Trump accepted..

    Two Presidential candidates from the same party teaming up to hold a joint protest rally ...while both are running for the same office..political strategist are having their whole world flipped up side down ..
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    On Wednesday, Sept. 9, there will be a massive rally in Washington, D.C. to encourage legislators to vote against the Nuclear Iran Deal...

    Something,, I can never remember happening ..will happen at that rally.  Sen.Ted Cruz  invited Trump to join him at the Capitol Hill event and Trump accepted..

    Two Presidential candidates from the same party teaming up to hold a joint protest rally ...while both are running for the same office..political strategist are having their whole world flipped up side down ..
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