It wasn’t so much unsportsmanlike conduct as sheer barbarism: On Wednesday, the Saudi Arabian men’s national soccer team refused to observe a moment of silence for the victims of the London Bridge terrorists.
Hosting the World Cup qualifying match was Australia, which lost two nationals in the attack. In their honor, the Socceroos wrapped their arms around each other and stood together in a line . . . while the Saudis kept warming up, earning well-deserved boos from the Adelaide Oval crowd.
A spokesperson for Football Federation Australia says the Saudi team was told of the coming one-minute silence — but refused, citing cultural differences.
It wasn’t so much unsportsmanlike conduct as sheer barbarism: On Wednesday, the Saudi Arabian men’s national soccer team refused to observe a moment of silence for the victims of the London Bridge terrorists.
Hosting the World Cup qualifying match was Australia, which lost two nationals in the attack. In their honor, the Socceroos wrapped their arms around each other and stood together in a line . . . while the Saudis kept warming up, earning well-deserved boos from the Adelaide Oval crowd.
A spokesperson for Football Federation Australia says the Saudi team was told of the coming one-minute silence — but refused, citing cultural differences.
In their honor, the Socceroos wrapped their arms around each other and stood together in a line . . . while the Saudis kept warming up
I don't blame them. When you come from one of these crazy religious backward countries that live and die by soccer, knowing if you lose you're going to get a foot chopped off (or worse) - you need all the practice you can get!!!!!
Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:
In their honor, the Socceroos wrapped their arms around each other and stood together in a line . . . while the Saudis kept warming up
I don't blame them. When you come from one of these crazy religious backward countries that live and die by soccer, knowing if you lose you're going to get a foot chopped off (or worse) - you need all the practice you can get!!!!!
it's a person move, but depending on their reason, i get it. the london attack killed 7 people or so on june 4. it was terrible and we all have moments of silence to mourn the victims. a couple of days later, the US kills 21 people (mathematically, that's 3 x the london attack), including women and children, who are fleeing the violence and terrorism that we helped caused, so it's a double whammy, as they say.
that';s how the media gets you. the london attack is all over the place. we kill many more and who gives a darn. the white people's lives are worth something so we better honor the moment of silence. but the three times as many brown people who are killed, even kids, most people don't even know about it, let alone give a garbage.
i don't know why the saudi team didn't honor the moment of silence. it's a person move no matter the reason. but i'm guessing they have some appreciation for how little the lives of people like them are valued when it comes to this kind of thing.
it's a person move, but depending on their reason, i get it. the london attack killed 7 people or so on june 4. it was terrible and we all have moments of silence to mourn the victims. a couple of days later, the US kills 21 people (mathematically, that's 3 x the london attack), including women and children, who are fleeing the violence and terrorism that we helped caused, so it's a double whammy, as they say.
that';s how the media gets you. the london attack is all over the place. we kill many more and who gives a darn. the white people's lives are worth something so we better honor the moment of silence. but the three times as many brown people who are killed, even kids, most people don't even know about it, let alone give a garbage.
i don't know why the saudi team didn't honor the moment of silence. it's a person move no matter the reason. but i'm guessing they have some appreciation for how little the lives of people like them are valued when it comes to this kind of thing.
it's a person move, but depending on their reason, i get it. the london attack killed 7 people or so on june 4. it was terrible and we all have moments of silence to mourn the victims. a couple of days later, the US kills 21 people (mathematically, that's 3 x the london attack), including women and children, who are fleeing the violence and terrorism that we helped caused, so it's a double whammy, as they say.
that';s how the media gets you. the london attack is all over the place. we kill many more and who gives a darn. the white people's lives are worth something so we better honor the moment of silence. but the three times as many brown people who are killed, even kids, most people don't even know about it, let alone give a garbage.
i don't know why the saudi team didn't honor the moment of silence. it's a person move no matter the reason. but i'm guessing they have some appreciation for how little the lives of people like them are valued when it comes to this kind of thing.
you had me till the white people/brown people, were there any non whites killed or injured in London attack?
We should stop eating bananas.
Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:
it's a person move, but depending on their reason, i get it. the london attack killed 7 people or so on june 4. it was terrible and we all have moments of silence to mourn the victims. a couple of days later, the US kills 21 people (mathematically, that's 3 x the london attack), including women and children, who are fleeing the violence and terrorism that we helped caused, so it's a double whammy, as they say.
that';s how the media gets you. the london attack is all over the place. we kill many more and who gives a darn. the white people's lives are worth something so we better honor the moment of silence. but the three times as many brown people who are killed, even kids, most people don't even know about it, let alone give a garbage.
i don't know why the saudi team didn't honor the moment of silence. it's a person move no matter the reason. but i'm guessing they have some appreciation for how little the lives of people like them are valued when it comes to this kind of thing.
you had me till the white people/brown people, were there any non whites killed or injured in London attack?
i'm not sure, but the idea is that an attack on london or any place near it is going to be perceived quite differently than an attack on syria or any place near it.
one generally matters and one is generally ignored.
Quote Originally Posted by benhogan76:
you had me till the white people/brown people, were there any non whites killed or injured in London attack?
i'm not sure, but the idea is that an attack on london or any place near it is going to be perceived quite differently than an attack on syria or any place near it.
one generally matters and one is generally ignored.
it's a person move, but depending on their reason, i get it. the london attack killed 7 people or so on june 4. it was terrible and we all have moments of silence to mourn the victims. a couple of days later, the US kills 21 people (mathematically, that's 3 x the london attack), including women and children, who are fleeing the violence and terrorism that we helped caused, so it's a double whammy, as they say.
that';s how the media gets you. the london attack is all over the place. we kill many more and who gives a darn. the white people's lives are worth something so we better honor the moment of silence. but the three times as many brown people who are killed, even kids, most people don't even know about it, let alone give a garbage.
i don't know why the saudi team didn't honor the moment of silence. it's a person move no matter the reason. but i'm guessing they have some appreciation for how little the lives of people like them are valued when it comes to this kind of thing.
Anytime innocent civilians are killed it is a tragedy, but to compare the 2 incidents referenced here is far reaching.
The London victims were the target. They were murdered in the name of a religion by some fanatics.
The victims in Syria were collateral damage in an area that is consumed by an ongoing war.
Both tragedies, but they are simply not the same.
As for your "white peoples lives are worth something" comment, that is also terribly flawed.
London = ally = reasonably close
Syria = perceived enemy = other side of the world
I could go on and be more specific, but I respect you too much to get into an ongoing debate over this.
As with many other things, we can agree to disagree
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Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:
it's a person move, but depending on their reason, i get it. the london attack killed 7 people or so on june 4. it was terrible and we all have moments of silence to mourn the victims. a couple of days later, the US kills 21 people (mathematically, that's 3 x the london attack), including women and children, who are fleeing the violence and terrorism that we helped caused, so it's a double whammy, as they say.
that';s how the media gets you. the london attack is all over the place. we kill many more and who gives a darn. the white people's lives are worth something so we better honor the moment of silence. but the three times as many brown people who are killed, even kids, most people don't even know about it, let alone give a garbage.
i don't know why the saudi team didn't honor the moment of silence. it's a person move no matter the reason. but i'm guessing they have some appreciation for how little the lives of people like them are valued when it comes to this kind of thing.
Anytime innocent civilians are killed it is a tragedy, but to compare the 2 incidents referenced here is far reaching.
The London victims were the target. They were murdered in the name of a religion by some fanatics.
The victims in Syria were collateral damage in an area that is consumed by an ongoing war.
Both tragedies, but they are simply not the same.
As for your "white peoples lives are worth something" comment, that is also terribly flawed.
London = ally = reasonably close
Syria = perceived enemy = other side of the world
I could go on and be more specific, but I respect you too much to get into an ongoing debate over this.
As with many other things, we can agree to disagree
i think the syria situation is worse. one, more people, and children. two, whether the perpetrators are a couple of religious fanatics (london) or military industrial complex/power hungry imperialistic fanatics (syria), there is a difference but i think that also makes syria worse. there are always going to be individual nuts and religious fanatics out there. we'll never stop that. we actually make sure they'll be out there forever when we bomb all of the places we do and kill innocent people. but the US dropping bombs in these places and causing damage (i wouldn't call it collateral damage because that means secondary damage. it presumes there is some unrelated primary beneficial purpose to these bombings and i wouldn't give our war on terror that much credit. when the war on terror is this much of a clusterfuck, none of the damage is collateral.). killing 21 people including children is not something that should happen as often as it does. so, i agree they are different, but i think we disagree on which is worse.
but what you and i believe or who is or isn't a US ally is really irrelevant to my point. i am looking at this from the saudi perspective (and people like them) and why they might ignore a moment of silence.
i do think the white/brown, western/middle eastern non-muslim/muslim, first world/third world and whatever other relevant distinctions separating the worth of their lives is critical to the issue, which is why and how bad it is that saudi arabian soccer players don't respect a moment of silence in australia. the former groups don't give a garbage, or even know because our media hardly report it, when fanatics (of the U.S. variety mainly) kill their innocent people for no apparent reason so why should they care when fanatics (of the religious variety) kill our innocent people. if we get can separate ourselves from the idea that they are all evil and we are all angels, that's logical to me. unfortunate, but rational.
Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:
Anytime innocent civilians are killed it is a tragedy, but to compare the 2 incidents referenced here is far reaching.
The London victims were the target. They were murdered in the name of a religion by some fanatics.
The victims in Syria were collateral damage in an area that is consumed by an ongoing war.
Both tragedies, but they are simply not the same.
As for your "white peoples lives are worth something" comment, that is also terribly flawed.
London = ally = reasonably close
Syria = perceived enemy = other side of the world
I could go on and be more specific, but I respect you too much to get into an ongoing debate over this.
As with many other things, we can agree to disagree
i think the syria situation is worse. one, more people, and children. two, whether the perpetrators are a couple of religious fanatics (london) or military industrial complex/power hungry imperialistic fanatics (syria), there is a difference but i think that also makes syria worse. there are always going to be individual nuts and religious fanatics out there. we'll never stop that. we actually make sure they'll be out there forever when we bomb all of the places we do and kill innocent people. but the US dropping bombs in these places and causing damage (i wouldn't call it collateral damage because that means secondary damage. it presumes there is some unrelated primary beneficial purpose to these bombings and i wouldn't give our war on terror that much credit. when the war on terror is this much of a clusterfuck, none of the damage is collateral.). killing 21 people including children is not something that should happen as often as it does. so, i agree they are different, but i think we disagree on which is worse.
but what you and i believe or who is or isn't a US ally is really irrelevant to my point. i am looking at this from the saudi perspective (and people like them) and why they might ignore a moment of silence.
i do think the white/brown, western/middle eastern non-muslim/muslim, first world/third world and whatever other relevant distinctions separating the worth of their lives is critical to the issue, which is why and how bad it is that saudi arabian soccer players don't respect a moment of silence in australia. the former groups don't give a garbage, or even know because our media hardly report it, when fanatics (of the U.S. variety mainly) kill their innocent people for no apparent reason so why should they care when fanatics (of the religious variety) kill our innocent people. if we get can separate ourselves from the idea that they are all evil and we are all angels, that's logical to me. unfortunate, but rational.
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