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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2009 - 12:21 AM ET #101

    Quote Originally Posted by MrKnish:

    Because everyone(Including any other Pop Star) wasn't making as much money as he was. There is a difference between HIGH Profile Cleb and just a Celeb.
     
    I give him credit, he did his share of spreading the wealth, but you have got to wonder how much of that money actually made it to it's "Destination" just like giving to any other Charity.
     
    But I don't think that Him giving tons of money makes him an AMAZING Person at all.
     
    Giving something that you don't need is far different from DOING something that you don't need to do.
     
     
    Listen, I know this is hard for you, but we arent talking just  money.41 charities. I can donate to 41charities too, but you dont see me doing it. You can send 100$ to 100 different charities and that is a hell of a feat.

    You dont need to send 1million to a charity to make it mean something. Apparently he cared about people with all kinds of sicknesses from all walks of life. Thats what donating to 41charities means. Apparently you think its only money and that is a sad sad way to live.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKnish:

    Because everyone(Including any other Pop Star) wasn't making as much money as he was. There is a difference between HIGH Profile Cleb and just a Celeb.
     
    I give him credit, he did his share of spreading the wealth, but you have got to wonder how much of that money actually made it to it's "Destination" just like giving to any other Charity.
     
    But I don't think that Him giving tons of money makes him an AMAZING Person at all.
     
    Giving something that you don't need is far different from DOING something that you don't need to do.
     
     
    Listen, I know this is hard for you, but we arent talking just  money.41 charities. I can donate to 41charities too, but you dont see me doing it. You can send 100$ to 100 different charities and that is a hell of a feat.

    You dont need to send 1million to a charity to make it mean something. Apparently he cared about people with all kinds of sicknesses from all walks of life. Thats what donating to 41charities means. Apparently you think its only money and that is a sad sad way to live.


     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2009 - 12:29 AM ET #102

    I do understand, when you are worth a Billion dollars(Like he was at one point), you can afford to donate half of it and live pretty Good, but when you are worth 100K and donate half... Well there is a difference.
     
    It wasn't like he donated all of that money and begged for change on the street until his next concert tour started or until his next album hit the streets.
     
    Can you imagine how much money he would have lost if the Internet exsisted back in the early 80's?
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    I do understand, when you are worth a Billion dollars(Like he was at one point), you can afford to donate half of it and live pretty Good, but when you are worth 100K and donate half... Well there is a difference.
     
    It wasn't like he donated all of that money and begged for change on the street until his next concert tour started or until his next album hit the streets.
     
    Can you imagine how much money he would have lost if the Internet exsisted back in the early 80's?
     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2009 - 12:31 AM ET #103

    Now you can try to make his donations seem like nothing but why dont you tell me why no other pop star has donated to 41charities like MJ? It has absolutely nothing to do with money. I'll be waiting. You should be ashamed of yourself for trying to downplay the amazing things this man has given to people who needed it.
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    Now you can try to make his donations seem like nothing but why dont you tell me why no other pop star has donated to 41charities like MJ? It has absolutely nothing to do with money. I'll be waiting. You should be ashamed of yourself for trying to downplay the amazing things this man has given to people who needed it.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2009 - 12:34 AM ET #104

    Quote Originally Posted by MrKnish:

    I do understand, when you are worth a Billion dollars(Like he was at one point), you can afford to donate half of it and live pretty Good, but when you are worth 100K and donate half... Well there is a difference.
     
    It wasn't like he donated all of that money and begged for change on the street until his next concert tour started or until his next album hit the streets.
     
    Can you imagine how much money he would have lost if the Internet exsisted back in the early 80's?
    Listen you keep mentioning money and this is more than money. Justin Timberlake can give 1000$ to 1000 charities and his wallet wont feel it. Obviously MJ cared about people with all kinds of conditions,backgrounds etc. Thats a fact. Its like you are trying to argue that MJ wasnt an amazing person. If thats the case why did he donate to 41charities. I'll be waiting and you will still be talking nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKnish:

    I do understand, when you are worth a Billion dollars(Like he was at one point), you can afford to donate half of it and live pretty Good, but when you are worth 100K and donate half... Well there is a difference.
     
    It wasn't like he donated all of that money and begged for change on the street until his next concert tour started or until his next album hit the streets.
     
    Can you imagine how much money he would have lost if the Internet exsisted back in the early 80's?
    Listen you keep mentioning money and this is more than money. Justin Timberlake can give 1000$ to 1000 charities and his wallet wont feel it. Obviously MJ cared about people with all kinds of conditions,backgrounds etc. Thats a fact. Its like you are trying to argue that MJ wasnt an amazing person. If thats the case why did he donate to 41charities. I'll be waiting and you will still be talking nonsense.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2009 - 12:42 AM ET #105

    Because no other Pop star that was worth that much money and NEEDED to donate that much to so many different charities. Do you actually think Michael himself sat down and wrote out checks to various charities?
     
    He donated money THEN because he had the money to donate and HAD to donate it.
     
    What bothers me the most is all of the money that he donated to people who didn't need it. Like all of the people that accused him of kiddie diddling.
     
    Did he actually dabble in Diddling? I don't know, but I do know that if I had THAT much money, I would rather protect my good name rather than just pay out millions of dollars to everyone that accused me a being a diddler just to make things go away.
     
     
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    Because no other Pop star that was worth that much money and NEEDED to donate that much to so many different charities. Do you actually think Michael himself sat down and wrote out checks to various charities?
     
    He donated money THEN because he had the money to donate and HAD to donate it.
     
    What bothers me the most is all of the money that he donated to people who didn't need it. Like all of the people that accused him of kiddie diddling.
     
    Did he actually dabble in Diddling? I don't know, but I do know that if I had THAT much money, I would rather protect my good name rather than just pay out millions of dollars to everyone that accused me a being a diddler just to make things go away.
     
     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2009 - 12:49 AM ET #106

    Quote Originally Posted by samuelsosa:

    Listen you keep mentioning money and this is more than money. Justin Timberlake can give 1000$ to 1000 charities and his wallet wont feel it.

    In the 80's Michael Jackson was simply HUGE. And the only way to Pirate Thriller, was to record it from you best friend's Cassette Tape. He was VERY Popular at the perfect time and Money was plentiful then, thus there was more money to be made.

    Celebs now are not as gullible to donate millions to charities because they know most of the money will never make it to it's intended targets anyways.

    If Michael Jackson's Thriller album came out last Year, he would not be donating 500 million dollars to any charities anytime soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samuelsosa:

    Listen you keep mentioning money and this is more than money. Justin Timberlake can give 1000$ to 1000 charities and his wallet wont feel it.

    In the 80's Michael Jackson was simply HUGE. And the only way to Pirate Thriller, was to record it from you best friend's Cassette Tape. He was VERY Popular at the perfect time and Money was plentiful then, thus there was more money to be made.

    Celebs now are not as gullible to donate millions to charities because they know most of the money will never make it to it's intended targets anyways.

    If Michael Jackson's Thriller album came out last Year, he would not be donating 500 million dollars to any charities anytime soon.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2009 - 12:52 AM ET #107

    Quote Originally Posted by MrKnish:

    Because no other Pop star that was worth that much money and NEEDED to donate that much to so many different charities. Do you actually think Michael himself sat down and wrote out checks to various charities?
     
    He donated money THEN because he had the money to donate and HAD to donate it.
     
    What bothers me the most is all of the money that he donated to people who didn't need it. Like all of the people that accused him of kiddie diddling.
     
    Did he actually dabble in Diddling? I don't know, but I do know that if I had THAT much money, I would rather protect my good name rather than just pay out millions of dollars to everyone that accused me a being a diddler just to make things go away.
     
     
    You are pathetic. He had to He had to give to 41charities? Why not 27? Why not 37? You are pathetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKnish:

    Because no other Pop star that was worth that much money and NEEDED to donate that much to so many different charities. Do you actually think Michael himself sat down and wrote out checks to various charities?
     
    He donated money THEN because he had the money to donate and HAD to donate it.
     
    What bothers me the most is all of the money that he donated to people who didn't need it. Like all of the people that accused him of kiddie diddling.
     
    Did he actually dabble in Diddling? I don't know, but I do know that if I had THAT much money, I would rather protect my good name rather than just pay out millions of dollars to everyone that accused me a being a diddler just to make things go away.
     
     
    You are pathetic. He had to He had to give to 41charities? Why not 27? Why not 37? You are pathetic.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2009 - 12:53 AM ET #108

    He had to donate 500million to 41charities? Why? You dont explain.

    Why not 80million to 15charities?


    You are pathetic for trying to argue with me that MJ didnt love people from all walks of life with all sorts of problems. Pathetic.
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    He had to donate 500million to 41charities? Why? You dont explain.

    Why not 80million to 15charities?


    You are pathetic for trying to argue with me that MJ didnt love people from all walks of life with all sorts of problems. Pathetic.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2009 - 12:53 AM ET #109

    You are pathetic for worshipping someone who hasn't done shit but make 2 crap albums and do nothing but make a fool of himself for the last 17 years.
     
     
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    You are pathetic for worshipping someone who hasn't done shit but make 2 crap albums and do nothing but make a fool of himself for the last 17 years.
     
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by samuelsosa:

    He had to donate 500million to 41charities? Why? You dont explain.

    Why not 80million to 15charities?


    You are pathetic for trying to argue with me that MJ didnt love people from all walks of life with all sorts of problems. Pathetic.

    The problem is that he Loved those people a little too much, regardless of their age.

    I guess next you are going to tell me that he really did have a skin pigment problem and that he was just naturally "Whitening".

    The only time the guy told the truth was when he admitted that it was perfectly natural to sleep in a Big Bed with young boys.

    There were alot of Roman emperors that also believed in this.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by samuelsosa:

    He had to donate 500million to 41charities? Why? You dont explain.

    Why not 80million to 15charities?


    You are pathetic for trying to argue with me that MJ didnt love people from all walks of life with all sorts of problems. Pathetic.

    The problem is that he Loved those people a little too much, regardless of their age.

    I guess next you are going to tell me that he really did have a skin pigment problem and that he was just naturally "Whitening".

    The only time the guy told the truth was when he admitted that it was perfectly natural to sleep in a Big Bed with young boys.

    There were alot of Roman emperors that also believed in this.

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2009 - 1:01 AM ET #111

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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2009 - 1:02 AM ET #112

    Donating 500+ million to 41charities is nothing?



    At least I know I'm dealing with a down syndrome patient, you should of told me sooner. I would of been more understanding. Now I dont really give a shit that youre disabled.
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    Donating 500+ million to 41charities is nothing?



    At least I know I'm dealing with a down syndrome patient, you should of told me sooner. I would of been more understanding. Now I dont really give a shit that youre disabled.
     
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    Hey, if I had tons of money but also knew that I was attracted to youngsters and liked to do a bunch of strange shit, I would donate a ton of money too, just to keep hiding the fact that I was a fucking weirdo.
     
    See, Timberlake doesn't have to do this because he isn't a fucking weirdo.
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    Hey, if I had tons of money but also knew that I was attracted to youngsters and liked to do a bunch of strange shit, I would donate a ton of money too, just to keep hiding the fact that I was a fucking weirdo.
     
    See, Timberlake doesn't have to do this because he isn't a fucking weirdo.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKnish:

    Hey, if I had tons of money but also knew that I was attracted to youngsters and liked to do a bunch of strange shit, I would donate a ton of money too, just to keep hiding the fact that I was a fucking weirdo.
     
    See, Timberlake doesn't have to do this because he isn't a fucking weirdo.
    100million to 10charities would do that.

    Now explain why he donated an additional 400million if he didnt do it out of the kindness of his heart?

    What PR person will tell you to donate 500million

    I understand you might not like the guy but stop making an ass out of yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKnish:

    Hey, if I had tons of money but also knew that I was attracted to youngsters and liked to do a bunch of strange shit, I would donate a ton of money too, just to keep hiding the fact that I was a fucking weirdo.
     
    See, Timberlake doesn't have to do this because he isn't a fucking weirdo.
    100million to 10charities would do that.

    Now explain why he donated an additional 400million if he didnt do it out of the kindness of his heart?

    What PR person will tell you to donate 500million

    I understand you might not like the guy but stop making an ass out of yourself.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2009 - 1:18 AM ET #115

    His donations show his amazing heart. If you think differently then I will be 99.9% sure you have down syndrome OR you are jealous that he spent more money on 1 vase than you will see in 3 lifetimes.
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    His donations show his amazing heart. If you think differently then I will be 99.9% sure you have down syndrome OR you are jealous that he spent more money on 1 vase than you will see in 3 lifetimes.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2009 - 10:43 AM ET #116

    Is that all you can do is call people names because they don't agree with your speculations? Do you even know what Down Syndrome is?
     
    Watch this interview and tell me that this is a guy that should be honored around the world. Just listen to the Lies that he tells about his own race and his kids.
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwac1i8jpuc
     
    Yeah buddy, I am REAL Jealous of this sick fuck.
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    Is that all you can do is call people names because they don't agree with your speculations? Do you even know what Down Syndrome is?
     
    Watch this interview and tell me that this is a guy that should be honored around the world. Just listen to the Lies that he tells about his own race and his kids.
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwac1i8jpuc
     
    Yeah buddy, I am REAL Jealous of this sick fuck.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2009 - 2:45 PM ET #117

    You realize Martin Bashir was exposed for manipulating the editing of this documentary and in the RE-RELEASE that was unedited shows Bashir kissing Jackson's ass saying how great of a human being and great father he is, and how opinions about him are completely wrong.
    Bashir is the real sick fuck with no integrity.

    Maybe you shouldn't believe everything you see on TV Knish. 
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    You realize Martin Bashir was exposed for manipulating the editing of this documentary and in the RE-RELEASE that was unedited shows Bashir kissing Jackson's ass saying how great of a human being and great father he is, and how opinions about him are completely wrong.
    Bashir is the real sick fuck with no integrity.

    Maybe you shouldn't believe everything you see on TV Knish. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2009 - 5:32 PM ET #118

    If you are trying to downplay his 500+ million to 41charities at least make some sense. You say he was trying to hide his weirdness. OK. 100million can do that. So why 500million? You have no argument, all you say is, the money never got there. Wtf does that have to do with anything? The man had an amazing heart and was an amazing giver, that is a fact. You can try to make up whatever excuse you want, a fact is a fact. You are working with opinions, I'm working with facts. Good, the man is a liar. Does that mean he wasnt an amazing giver?  Make some sense then talk to me.
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    If you are trying to downplay his 500+ million to 41charities at least make some sense. You say he was trying to hide his weirdness. OK. 100million can do that. So why 500million? You have no argument, all you say is, the money never got there. Wtf does that have to do with anything? The man had an amazing heart and was an amazing giver, that is a fact. You can try to make up whatever excuse you want, a fact is a fact. You are working with opinions, I'm working with facts. Good, the man is a liar. Does that mean he wasnt an amazing giver?  Make some sense then talk to me.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2009 - 5:45 PM ET #119

    sosa

    just substitute Britney with Michael
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    just substitute Britney with Michael
     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2009 - 6:10 PM ET #120

    Thats a few years old and Im not sure what this has to do with Michael's amazing heart.
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    Thats a few years old and Im not sure what this has to do with Michael's amazing heart.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2009 - 6:27 PM ET #121

    You don"t know anything about his "amazing heart" unless you knew him personally.

    When are you going to stop fellating this  guys corpse? Does it make you feel special?
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    You don"t know anything about his "amazing heart" unless you knew him personally.

    When are you going to stop fellating this  guys corpse? Does it make you feel special?
     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2009 - 7:41 PM ET #122

    The way Michael Jackson's twisted mind worked, he probably figured that every 100 Million that he donated, gave him a free pass to diddle one boy.
     
    You act like you know him personally. What was so special about his Amazing Heart? He donated money as a Tax write off for his ridiculous lifestyle.
     
    You can keep defending that fruitloop all you want. He was a diddler plain and simple.
     
    Personally I love in his interviews how he claimed that he would sleep in a sleeping bag besides the kids that were in his bed and the next thing you know he was in the bed with them.
     
    Get you story straight Jacko.
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    The way Michael Jackson's twisted mind worked, he probably figured that every 100 Million that he donated, gave him a free pass to diddle one boy.
     
    You act like you know him personally. What was so special about his Amazing Heart? He donated money as a Tax write off for his ridiculous lifestyle.
     
    You can keep defending that fruitloop all you want. He was a diddler plain and simple.
     
    Personally I love in his interviews how he claimed that he would sleep in a sleeping bag besides the kids that were in his bed and the next thing you know he was in the bed with them.
     
    Get you story straight Jacko.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2009 - 8:12 PM ET #123

    MrKnish: Imagine he was innocent (he WAS acquitted), imagine the hell it must have been...
    Many men have been wrongfully accused of childmolesting/pedophilia - even if they do win in court people will still say "he probably did it anyway". Imagine one of these men were you. You wouldn't have to deal with the media, people from all over the planet spitting at you like they did to MJ. You could move to another town - MJ would have to move to the Moon, he couldn't so he became a junkie (I really think the court case in 2005 killed him, win or lose).

    "Let he that is without sin among you cast the first stone"
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    MrKnish: Imagine he was innocent (he WAS acquitted), imagine the hell it must have been...
    Many men have been wrongfully accused of childmolesting/pedophilia - even if they do win in court people will still say "he probably did it anyway". Imagine one of these men were you. You wouldn't have to deal with the media, people from all over the planet spitting at you like they did to MJ. You could move to another town - MJ would have to move to the Moon, he couldn't so he became a junkie (I really think the court case in 2005 killed him, win or lose).

    "Let he that is without sin among you cast the first stone"
     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2009 - 9:22 PM ET #124

    Quote Originally Posted by CountNo_Account:

    sosa

    just substitute Britney with Michael

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    Quote Originally Posted by CountNo_Account:

    sosa

    just substitute Britney with Michael

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountNo_Account:

    You don"t know anything about his "amazing heart" unless you knew him personally.  Apparently giving 500+ million to 41charities doesnt mean much to covers degenerates

    When are you going to stop fellating this  guys corpse? Does it make you feel special?
    Do you feel special by making jokes?  I dont get it. I mean the jealousy I do understand but seriously, it's getting kind of old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountNo_Account:

    You don"t know anything about his "amazing heart" unless you knew him personally.  Apparently giving 500+ million to 41charities doesnt mean much to covers degenerates

    When are you going to stop fellating this  guys corpse? Does it make you feel special?
    Do you feel special by making jokes?  I dont get it. I mean the jealousy I do understand but seriously, it's getting kind of old.
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