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    More lies from the left ...

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    Hugh_Jorgan
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2016 - 6:43 AM ET #1

    As the Libs and media espouse the cry of racism run amok, the actual truth remains far different from their biased narrative ...

    https://nypost.com/2016/09/06/the-lies-told-by-the-black-lives-matter-movement/

    Hard to debate those numbers ... but I'm sure some will find a way to distort/deflect/lie so they can hang onto their false arguments 
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    As the Libs and media espouse the cry of racism run amok, the actual truth remains far different from their biased narrative ...

    https://nypost.com/2016/09/06/the-lies-told-by-the-black-lives-matter-movement/

    Hard to debate those numbers ... but I'm sure some will find a way to distort/deflect/lie so they can hang onto their false arguments 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2016 - 9:15 AM ET #2

    Why are you so obsessed with race?
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    Why are you so obsessed with race?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2016 - 10:17 AM ET #3

    I heard there was a BLM rally yesterday against "climate change" in Florida.  I guess rising sea levels figure to impact minorities (and women) more. 
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    I heard there was a BLM rally yesterday against "climate change" in Florida.  I guess rising sea levels figure to impact minorities (and women) more. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2016 - 12:40 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:

    Why are you so obsessed with race?

    Because he's been programmed that way. Don't blame him. Blame the cultural and government leaders of this country who push this message to ensure perpetual division, thus cementing their power. 


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    Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:

    Why are you so obsessed with race?

    Because he's been programmed that way. Don't blame him. Blame the cultural and government leaders of this country who push this message to ensure perpetual division, thus cementing their power. 


     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2016 - 12:45 PM ET #5

    1) According to Heather McDonald in her book " The War on cops"

    "We have entered an era of intense antipolice activism, led by the federal government in conjunction with agitators like Al Sharpton," Heather Mac Donald claims in her book The War on Cops. 


    How many times have we entered this era of anti-police activism ?

    She is now blaming Black Lives Matter 

    12 years before BLM existed, Heather McDonald delivered a lecture at the American Enterprise Institute  titled  "The War on Police" 

    She also wrote a book in 2003 
    Are Cops Racist? was subtitled How the War Against the Police Harms Black Americans

    2) According to Heather MCDonald

    "America does not have an incarceration problem; it has a crime problem," 

    when Newt Gingricht, George Will agree that criminal justice reform is needed this woman believes it is just fine 

    3) Stop and Frisk

    McDonald disagrees with the critics of the criminal justice system, defending intrusive policing practices such as stop-and-frisk and calling it a "dangerous lie" that the system treats whites and blacks differently.

    stop-and-frisk systemically violates the constitutional guarantee against unreasonable searches. 

    In 2013, a federal district court ruled that the NYPD's tactics were unconstitutional. The court noted that cops were evaluated by their "productivity"—that is, finding contraband and making arrests. Officers were not disciplined for stops that turned up nothing, and innocent persons had no practical legal recourse for brief detentions and patdowns of their clothing. 
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    1) According to Heather McDonald in her book " The War on cops"

    "We have entered an era of intense antipolice activism, led by the federal government in conjunction with agitators like Al Sharpton," Heather Mac Donald claims in her book The War on Cops. 


    How many times have we entered this era of anti-police activism ?

    She is now blaming Black Lives Matter 

    12 years before BLM existed, Heather McDonald delivered a lecture at the American Enterprise Institute  titled  "The War on Police" 

    She also wrote a book in 2003 
    Are Cops Racist? was subtitled How the War Against the Police Harms Black Americans

    2) According to Heather MCDonald

    "America does not have an incarceration problem; it has a crime problem," 

    when Newt Gingricht, George Will agree that criminal justice reform is needed this woman believes it is just fine 

    3) Stop and Frisk

    McDonald disagrees with the critics of the criminal justice system, defending intrusive policing practices such as stop-and-frisk and calling it a "dangerous lie" that the system treats whites and blacks differently.

    stop-and-frisk systemically violates the constitutional guarantee against unreasonable searches. 

    In 2013, a federal district court ruled that the NYPD's tactics were unconstitutional. The court noted that cops were evaluated by their "productivity"—that is, finding contraband and making arrests. Officers were not disciplined for stops that turned up nothing, and innocent persons had no practical legal recourse for brief detentions and patdowns of their clothing. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2016 - 6:30 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:

    Why are you so obsessed with race?

    I have no obsession with race whatsoever, and as such, I do not comment on it that often.

    An argument can be made that I regularly reference the media's biased/flawed reporting on racial issues, just as I did in this thread.

    See the difference? 
    Probably not 
    bigreds daddy
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    Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:

    Why are you so obsessed with race?

    I have no obsession with race whatsoever, and as such, I do not comment on it that often.

    An argument can be made that I regularly reference the media's biased/flawed reporting on racial issues, just as I did in this thread.

    See the difference? 
    Probably not 
     
    MoneySRH
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2016 - 7:05 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:

    As the Libs and media espouse the cry of racism run amok, the actual truth remains far different from their biased narrative ...https://nypost.com/2016/09/06/the-lies-told-by-the-black-lives-matter-movement/Hard to debate those numbers ... but I'm sure some will find a way to distort/deflect/lie so they can hang onto their false arguments

    Damn that's an overwhelming amount of truth and facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:

    As the Libs and media espouse the cry of racism run amok, the actual truth remains far different from their biased narrative ...https://nypost.com/2016/09/06/the-lies-told-by-the-black-lives-matter-movement/Hard to debate those numbers ... but I'm sure some will find a way to distort/deflect/lie so they can hang onto their false arguments

    Damn that's an overwhelming amount of truth and facts.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2016 - 7:17 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:


    I have no obsession with race whatsoever, and as such, I do not comment on it that often.

    An argument can be made that I regularly reference the media's biased/flawed reporting on racial issues, just as I did in this thread.

    See the difference? 
    Probably not 

    The media's job is to sell commercials, ads, and newspapers.  They will report on whatever helps them sell more.  They don't have a responsibility to be unbiased.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:


    I have no obsession with race whatsoever, and as such, I do not comment on it that often.

    An argument can be made that I regularly reference the media's biased/flawed reporting on racial issues, just as I did in this thread.

    See the difference? 
    Probably not 

    The media's job is to sell commercials, ads, and newspapers.  They will report on whatever helps them sell more.  They don't have a responsibility to be unbiased.  
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2016 - 7:54 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:


    The media's job is to sell commercials, ads, and newspapers.  They will report on whatever helps them sell more.  They don't have a responsibility to be unbiased.  

    I fully understand, and I agree.

    One of my main talking points is that there are those who scoff at FOX News because they are so biased, and I completely agree with them.
    But those same people can't seem to recognize that MSNBC and CNN are equally biased, as is the vast majority of news reporting nowadays.

    Even Walter Cronkite was delivering the news with a spin back in the day.
    It turns out that ol' Walter was a progressive liberal, and let his personal opinions get in the way of delivering what was thought to be unbiased news.

    It's sad, but racial unrest sells. So some media constantly tells one side of the racial story, while neglecting to tell the whole story ... all in the name of profit 


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    Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:


    The media's job is to sell commercials, ads, and newspapers.  They will report on whatever helps them sell more.  They don't have a responsibility to be unbiased.  

    I fully understand, and I agree.

    One of my main talking points is that there are those who scoff at FOX News because they are so biased, and I completely agree with them.
    But those same people can't seem to recognize that MSNBC and CNN are equally biased, as is the vast majority of news reporting nowadays.

    Even Walter Cronkite was delivering the news with a spin back in the day.
    It turns out that ol' Walter was a progressive liberal, and let his personal opinions get in the way of delivering what was thought to be unbiased news.

    It's sad, but racial unrest sells. So some media constantly tells one side of the racial story, while neglecting to tell the whole story ... all in the name of profit 


     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2016 - 8:09 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:

    I have no obsession with race whatsoever, and as such, I do not comment on it that often.An argument can be made that I regularly reference the media's biased/flawed reporting on racial issues, just as I did in this thread.See the difference? Probably not 
    The media's job is to sell commercials, ads, and newspapers.  They will report on whatever helps them sell more.  They don't have a responsibility to be unbiased.

    Look up the society of professional journalists - code of ethics.
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:

    I have no obsession with race whatsoever, and as such, I do not comment on it that often.An argument can be made that I regularly reference the media's biased/flawed reporting on racial issues, just as I did in this thread.See the difference? Probably not 
    The media's job is to sell commercials, ads, and newspapers.  They will report on whatever helps them sell more.  They don't have a responsibility to be unbiased.

    Look up the society of professional journalists - code of ethics.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2016 - 10:52 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:


    The media's job is to sell commercials, ads, and newspapers.  They will report on whatever helps them sell more.  They don't have a responsibility to be unbiased.  


    I disagree, particularly since they pretend they have a responsibility to be unbiased. I'm certainly not suggesting they ARE unbiased, since they are clearly not. The pretense and hypocrisy is what I find most disturbing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:


    The media's job is to sell commercials, ads, and newspapers.  They will report on whatever helps them sell more.  They don't have a responsibility to be unbiased.  


    I disagree, particularly since they pretend they have a responsibility to be unbiased. I'm certainly not suggesting they ARE unbiased, since they are clearly not. The pretense and hypocrisy is what I find most disturbing.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    The media's job is to sell commercials, ads, and newspapers.  They will report on whatever helps them sell more.  They don't have a responsibility to be unbiased.
    Look up the society of professional journalists - code of ethics.




    This.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    The media's job is to sell commercials, ads, and newspapers.  They will report on whatever helps them sell more.  They don't have a responsibility to be unbiased.
    Look up the society of professional journalists - code of ethics.




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