If you want to honor those who died on 911, then...

Quote Originally Posted by marnypoly:

Good grief. Not this shit again.

Like I said the last time, the Bush administration couldn't even organize a rescue effort for Hurricane Katrina yet they had no problem covering up the deaths of thousands of people that would require hundreds of conspirators? 10 years later and not even a slight hint of a smoking gun? Not even a NYPD or FDNY making 60k/year that was at ground zero? You'd think he'd make millions off the story if he said he saw explosives at the WTC. Give me a freakin break.

And 1,500 engineers and architects dispute 9/11?? Who exactly are they? Name them. And why hasn't their "theory" ever been published on a reputable engineer or physics Journal? You would think they'd win a Pulitzer Prize with that kind of info 

Right on............well said

And I honestly don't care about links about quotes and pictures when the ones that prove otherwise somehow are meaningless.

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Well, I tried to be civil, but you don't seem to be able to handle it.  I asked for you to explain these things for me and you haven't.  I'd be happy to look at pictures that prove your point. 

I am not honestly interested in reading 40 pages of text, but I will look at evidence that is supported by qualified professionals. 

Would like to know what you think happened to the light poles and how the wheel of a 757-200 made it into the pentagon. 

Quote Originally Posted by cd329:



very funny post.  Why do you assume that the head of the FBI counter terrorism unit would have to know about this?
Heres the deal, if you want to believe the bullshit the government is telling you thats fine, but there is lots of proof out there that makes the govt case look like shit.

Just the other day, fighter jets escorted planes to airports because people made to many trips to the bathroom, but on 911 after 2 towers were hit and the govt knew that this was a complete act of terrorism, norad didnt bother to send up any jets to stop the plane heading towards Pentagon airspace, nor was any missile defense system used to stop that plane from hitting one of the most secure buildings on the planet? Nope just let the plane fly right in and hit the Pentagon. Amazing how thou in minutes after the crash, agents were at all the stores confiscating the video tapes.
To thid day, not one picture has ever been released of an airliner flying towards the pentagon, yet the Pentagon probably has many hundreds of the best security cameras in the world watching the buildings and its surroundings.
I could go on and on, but truth is i dont waste my time trying to convince people like yourself to educate yourself and use a little common sense on this matter, who just believe the govts bullshit story.

Decided to abandon the WTC 7 discussion, huh? 

A few small fires

A plane didn't even hit it

The website says exactly:  "several engineers and architects express concern over the commission's report."  Well, I do too.  When you have an investigation this complicated and this massive, you are going to run into some inconsistencies....some things that don't make sense.  That's a far cry from saying the government masterminded it.

The website said, "several" even thought the government might be involved.

several

I am looking forward to this truth being revealed in the coming months.  Will for sure be on here to make fun of you.

KOAJ-

And I'm 100% on board with questioning government.  But why is it that they got up in front of the entire country and lied to their face about Iraq and barely anyone said a word? 

And Gage is not a Building Engineer, he's an ARCHITECT.  There is a difference!!!!!!!!!!

By the way, the estimate is that it would have taken 12 people about 72 days to JUST LOAD EXPLOSIVES to raze one of the Twin Towers. 

That is just one building.  Multipley that by 2.5 and that is the amount of manpower you would need to topple these building with controlled demolition.

Conspiracy folks think they did it in 5 days after the bomb sniffing dogs were removed.

Quote Originally Posted by TILTOLOGIC:

Great stuff in here Hutch, you have completely eviscerated the Truther nonsense put forth by Mozart and Coldsnap. Game Set Match. This was a rout pure and simple.

Very impressive Hutch 

Yes....He once again avoided answering my questions by asking questions....Great job. 

I like this one better. 

This is the type of stuff Richard Gage does:

The 9/11 controlled demolition theorists seem to like the “what about…” challenge. They know that even the most intelligent layperson can’t answer all their questions, and even if you can answer five “what about” questions in a row, then they’ll give you a real zinger, like this one from Richard Gage: “What about the EPA’s Erik Swartz who said they found 1,3-diphenylpropane at levels ‘that dwarfed all others. We’ve never observed it in any sampling we’ve ever done.” Unless you’ve checked, you won’t know that Gage edited out the next sentence of the Times Union article where that first appeared, which continues, “He also said it was most likely produced by the plastic of tens of thousands of burning computers.” Gage thinks 1,3-diphenylpropane was used for the sol-gel solution for safe storage of nanothermites. The patent lists pharmacological uses such as treating complications associated with metabolic syndrome, insulin resistance, diabetes, dyslipidemias, atherosclerosis, cardiovascular diseases, obesity, hypertension, inflammatory diseases, neurodegenerative pathologies, Alzheimers, or cancers but never mentions thermites or even plastic computer parts.

He had a debate with Chris Mohr March 6, 2011 in CO...in front of 250 people.  Gage got his ass kicked so bad the video wasn't released by him. 

coldsnap-

Exactly what questions are you referring to? 

My saying that you think that links I post are meaningless vs. the links you post are 100 % solid appears uncivil to you ?....I think you are too defensive on things you read.

And of course once again you avoid MY questions and put words in my mouth about a MISSLE that I never claimed. 

These guys with no clue telling you that you are doing a great job is going to your head. 

The simple answer is by disguising the equipment as normal building components, so that not even the workers installing the components are aware of the concealed pyrotechnics. Three aspects of the Hypothetical Blasting Scenario that facilitate this are: the stability and specificity of ignition conditions achievable with aluminothermic pyrotechnics, minimization of the required access to steelwork, and the use of a completely wireless ignition control system."

https://911research.wtc7.net/essays/thermite/explosive_residues.html

I never put words in your mouth about a missile.  Most conspiracy theorists subscribe to the "missile" theory.  I'd like to know what your theory is. 

And re. your questions, these are all I see in this whole thread:

Why is it that people who believe everything that the government tells them and can't explain shit always seem so hostile?  I don't.  It bothers me when people talk about 9/11 being an inside job. 

And do you really think that THAT is the only film available that captures the crash?..... Not necessarily.  But I do know that releasing the film could lead to all sorts of headaches and plenty of lawsuits.  And the fact that I have seen pictures of all sorts of plane parts in the pentagon satisfies me.

Still no explanation of the rookie 2 seater pilots incredible feat.  All they had to do was push a few buttons and let the auto pilot get them close.  After that there was some work to be done, but it wasn't like he had no experience.  People do things that suprise us all the time.   Most of the people who comment on the flight say, "it's not safe....or it's a fighter pilot maneuver."  They almost never say it wouldn't be possible.  It's not like this guy had to take off and land this plane. He had to point it in a general direction and then get it pointed at the pentagon eventually.  Lots of people did extraordinary things that day.  Maybe that pilot was just one of them.   

Let's face it, you can see something plunging into the side of the pentagon even in that crappy footage.  There is evidence of where the wings hit. 

What do you think it was if it wasn't a plane?