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    Gov Christie's speech ...

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    Hugh_Jorgan
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2016 - 8:31 AM ET #1

    I'm not a bag fan of his, but Christie's speech last night was exceptionally effective, and truly had the crowd engaged. 
    The manner in which he got the crowd to respond with "Guilty" after each of his accusations was brilliant.
    The chants of "lock her up" were pretty funny, too.
    He took the people in the convention into a bit of a frenzy.
    Christie is a persuasive orator and did it all sans a teleprompter.

    To anyone who is not blinded by bias, Christie's speech was brilliant.

    Of course, this site has many who cannot see past their own preconceived notions (I won't name whom this might refer to, but one of their names rhymes with 'scab on weenie') 
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    I'm not a bag fan of his, but Christie's speech last night was exceptionally effective, and truly had the crowd engaged. 
    The manner in which he got the crowd to respond with "Guilty" after each of his accusations was brilliant.
    The chants of "lock her up" were pretty funny, too.
    He took the people in the convention into a bit of a frenzy.
    Christie is a persuasive orator and did it all sans a teleprompter.

    To anyone who is not blinded by bias, Christie's speech was brilliant.

    Of course, this site has many who cannot see past their own preconceived notions (I won't name whom this might refer to, but one of their names rhymes with 'scab on weenie') 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2016 - 8:44 AM ET #2

    Also want to mention that I was going between MSNBS and Fox in an effort to hear 2 conflicting biased views.

    At the conclusion of the convention, MSNBC had on Chris Mathews, who became unhinged the previous night over the comments from the mother of the man that got killed in Benghazi. While Rachel Maddow was visibly shaken from watching a mother grieve, Mathews was furious at the GOP, as well as the mothers words. He is an irrational imbecile. Anyway, getting back to my point, Mathews was going bonkers over Melania's couple of plagiarized sentences, which of course was from the previous night, and did not make reference to anything from that night's convention. Hard to believe he couldn't find anything to complain about from all those speeches. 

    On FOX, Hannity and his guests were discussing, and reveling in the speeches from that night, just as a post convention show should, or at least one would think.

    I did not agree with everything on Fox regarding the speeches, but at least they stayed on topic.
    MSNBC, and Mathews specifically, felt it necessary to harp on something from the previous night. As someone who was looking for varying viewpoints of that nights events, I was perplexed at that decision 
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    Also want to mention that I was going between MSNBS and Fox in an effort to hear 2 conflicting biased views.

    At the conclusion of the convention, MSNBC had on Chris Mathews, who became unhinged the previous night over the comments from the mother of the man that got killed in Benghazi. While Rachel Maddow was visibly shaken from watching a mother grieve, Mathews was furious at the GOP, as well as the mothers words. He is an irrational imbecile. Anyway, getting back to my point, Mathews was going bonkers over Melania's couple of plagiarized sentences, which of course was from the previous night, and did not make reference to anything from that night's convention. Hard to believe he couldn't find anything to complain about from all those speeches. 

    On FOX, Hannity and his guests were discussing, and reveling in the speeches from that night, just as a post convention show should, or at least one would think.

    I did not agree with everything on Fox regarding the speeches, but at least they stayed on topic.
    MSNBC, and Mathews specifically, felt it necessary to harp on something from the previous night. As someone who was looking for varying viewpoints of that nights events, I was perplexed at that decision 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2016 - 8:50 AM ET #3

    + 1 here.  He played the role he is most suited, to indict and present the case to the American public against Hillary and the serious mistakes she has made in the past 6+ years.     

    I think the most impressive speech of the night (and Christie's was def good) has to go to Donald Jr. tho.  That guy rocked it.  Laying out and validating his father as a candidate, juxtaposing the parties and their visions and talking about what type of president we need/will get.  Not even a huge Donald guy but impressive back to back speakers.
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    + 1 here.  He played the role he is most suited, to indict and present the case to the American public against Hillary and the serious mistakes she has made in the past 6+ years.     

    I think the most impressive speech of the night (and Christie's was def good) has to go to Donald Jr. tho.  That guy rocked it.  Laying out and validating his father as a candidate, juxtaposing the parties and their visions and talking about what type of president we need/will get.  Not even a huge Donald guy but impressive back to back speakers.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2016 - 8:56 AM ET #4

    Of course, the Liberal Star Ledger is doing everything to tear him apart.  

    Great speech 
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    Of course, the Liberal Star Ledger is doing everything to tear him apart.  

    Great speech 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2016 - 9:01 AM ET #5

    I agree, Jr was very good. He's another one who doesn't use a teleprompter, and his delivery was close to flawless.
    Jr and Christie had different messages ... Christie explained in detail why we shouldn't vote for HRC, and Jr explained why we should vote for Trump. Both were impressive. The GOP now has to hope that the Donald doesn't blow the whole thing up tomorrow night.

    Of course, the Dems will have Obama and Willy give moving speeches, and then they will try to keep HRC's speech to a minimum. While she is well versed on all the issues, her delivery and tone simply scream "I'm an unlikable, lying, b!tch" 
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    I agree, Jr was very good. He's another one who doesn't use a teleprompter, and his delivery was close to flawless.
    Jr and Christie had different messages ... Christie explained in detail why we shouldn't vote for HRC, and Jr explained why we should vote for Trump. Both were impressive. The GOP now has to hope that the Donald doesn't blow the whole thing up tomorrow night.

    Of course, the Dems will have Obama and Willy give moving speeches, and then they will try to keep HRC's speech to a minimum. While she is well versed on all the issues, her delivery and tone simply scream "I'm an unlikable, lying, b!tch" 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2016 - 9:07 AM ET #6

    If i was Hillary's campaign manager, I'd respond with a similar tactic, Targeting Trump University which had multiple lawsuits against it for illegal business practice and racketeering, I'd also target those two/three rape claims made against Trump, If the opposition are going to play dirty, You have to as well, They are both pieces of garbage in my opinion so neither of them can take the high moral ground but this sort of mob mentality attack dog style of politics is what the public seems to respond to, So keep at it.
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    If i was Hillary's campaign manager, I'd respond with a similar tactic, Targeting Trump University which had multiple lawsuits against it for illegal business practice and racketeering, I'd also target those two/three rape claims made against Trump, If the opposition are going to play dirty, You have to as well, They are both pieces of garbage in my opinion so neither of them can take the high moral ground but this sort of mob mentality attack dog style of politics is what the public seems to respond to, So keep at it.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2016 - 3:45 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by SwishSwish1234:

    If i was Hillary's campaign manager, I'd respond with a similar tactic, Targeting Trump University which had multiple lawsuits against it for illegal business practice and racketeering, I'd also target those two/three rape claims made against Trump, If the opposition are going to play dirty, You have to as well, They are both pieces of garbage in my opinion so neither of them can take the high moral ground but this sort of mob mentality attack dog style of politics is what the public seems to respond to, So keep at it.
    How many politicians  aren't?

    I really thought the choices I had last election were sad, this is really beyond belief.

     

    We should stop eating bananas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwishSwish1234:

    If i was Hillary's campaign manager, I'd respond with a similar tactic, Targeting Trump University which had multiple lawsuits against it for illegal business practice and racketeering, I'd also target those two/three rape claims made against Trump, If the opposition are going to play dirty, You have to as well, They are both pieces of garbage in my opinion so neither of them can take the high moral ground but this sort of mob mentality attack dog style of politics is what the public seems to respond to, So keep at it.
    How many politicians  aren't?

    I really thought the choices I had last election were sad, this is really beyond belief.

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2016 - 7:46 AM ET #8

    More solid speeches last night.
    It seems all of Trumps kids have a flair for public speaking.
    If nothing else, he does a good job of reproducing.

    Pence was fantastic, and his stoic manner is perfect when coupled with Trump's bombastic nature.

    Cruz committed political hari kari in front of an entire nation.
    WTF was he thinking? Sure, some of those within the establishment will applaud him, but the people who vote will not forget last night.

    Another interesting contrast between MSNBC and FOX last night.
    At the conclusion of the convention I watched MSNBC and all they could talk about was how Cruz hurt Trump, and how Trumps camp messed up by inviting Cruz to talk, and what a fiasco the night was, blah, blah, blah. Not once did they mention that each and every political party is given a copy of what will be said BEFORE anyone goes on the stage. Trumps camp was well aware that Cruz was not going to endorse Donnie boy, yet they let him talk anyway.

    Trump does nothing similar to any previous politician. I can't say I understand some things he does/says, but I give him credit for not trying to be political, or politically correct. Trump is true to himself, and I respect that.

    FOX News spent some time discussing Cruz, but spent more time on Pence and Eric Trump, as it should have been.

    Obviously to me (not to the liberals) both FOX and MSNBC are terribly biased, but last night it was the liberal slant which was further removed from reality 
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    More solid speeches last night.
    It seems all of Trumps kids have a flair for public speaking.
    If nothing else, he does a good job of reproducing.

    Pence was fantastic, and his stoic manner is perfect when coupled with Trump's bombastic nature.

    Cruz committed political hari kari in front of an entire nation.
    WTF was he thinking? Sure, some of those within the establishment will applaud him, but the people who vote will not forget last night.

    Another interesting contrast between MSNBC and FOX last night.
    At the conclusion of the convention I watched MSNBC and all they could talk about was how Cruz hurt Trump, and how Trumps camp messed up by inviting Cruz to talk, and what a fiasco the night was, blah, blah, blah. Not once did they mention that each and every political party is given a copy of what will be said BEFORE anyone goes on the stage. Trumps camp was well aware that Cruz was not going to endorse Donnie boy, yet they let him talk anyway.

    Trump does nothing similar to any previous politician. I can't say I understand some things he does/says, but I give him credit for not trying to be political, or politically correct. Trump is true to himself, and I respect that.

    FOX News spent some time discussing Cruz, but spent more time on Pence and Eric Trump, as it should have been.

    Obviously to me (not to the liberals) both FOX and MSNBC are terribly biased, but last night it was the liberal slant which was further removed from reality 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2016 - 7:53 AM ET #9

    Ivanka takes the microphone tonight to introduce her father.
    If you have never heard her speak, take 15 minutes from your night and tune in just for her. Not only is she incredibly intelligent, and a wonderful orator, but she is stunning to look at.
    If she played baseball they would refer to her as a 5 tool player 
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    Ivanka takes the microphone tonight to introduce her father.
    If you have never heard her speak, take 15 minutes from your night and tune in just for her. Not only is she incredibly intelligent, and a wonderful orator, but she is stunning to look at.
    If she played baseball they would refer to her as a 5 tool player 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwishSwish1234:

    If i was Hillary's campaign manager, I'd respond with a similar tactic, Targeting Trump University which had multiple lawsuits against it for illegal business practice and racketeering, I'd also target those two/three rape claims made against Trump, If the opposition are going to play dirty, You have to as well, They are both pieces of garbage in my opinion so neither of them can take the high moral ground but this sort of mob mentality attack dog style of politics is what the public seems to respond to, So keep at it.

    You are so right...."Trump University" is definitely on par with high treason.

    No one plays dirtier than the Clintons: https://www.truthorfiction.com/clintonfriends/

    Now, before you laugh at the source or story, ask yourself how many people that you know who have died under suspicious circumstances......for instance the Vince Foster case.

    Personally, I liked Gingrich's speech...during his summation of the terror attacks against the west over the past year NBC quickly cut away. Pretty funny watching the mainstream media deny that we are at war with militant islam.

    These are some crazy times, that is for sure.

    Never Make A Winner A Loser. Never.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwishSwish1234:

    If i was Hillary's campaign manager, I'd respond with a similar tactic, Targeting Trump University which had multiple lawsuits against it for illegal business practice and racketeering, I'd also target those two/three rape claims made against Trump, If the opposition are going to play dirty, You have to as well, They are both pieces of garbage in my opinion so neither of them can take the high moral ground but this sort of mob mentality attack dog style of politics is what the public seems to respond to, So keep at it.

    You are so right...."Trump University" is definitely on par with high treason.

    No one plays dirtier than the Clintons: https://www.truthorfiction.com/clintonfriends/

    Now, before you laugh at the source or story, ask yourself how many people that you know who have died under suspicious circumstances......for instance the Vince Foster case.

    Personally, I liked Gingrich's speech...during his summation of the terror attacks against the west over the past year NBC quickly cut away. Pretty funny watching the mainstream media deny that we are at war with militant islam.

    These are some crazy times, that is for sure.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2016 - 9:17 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by bigvern1013:

    You are so right...."Trump University" is definitely on par with high treason.

    No one plays dirtier than the Clintons: https://www.truthorfiction.com/clintonfriends/

    Now, before you laugh at the source or story, ask yourself how many people that you know who have died under suspicious circumstances......for instance the Vince Foster case.

    Personally, I liked Gingrich's speech...during his summation of the terror attacks against the west over the past year NBC quickly cut away. Pretty funny watching the mainstream media deny that we are at war with militant islam.

    These are some crazy times, that is for sure.


    Is rape on a par with high treason? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigvern1013:

    You are so right...."Trump University" is definitely on par with high treason.

    No one plays dirtier than the Clintons: https://www.truthorfiction.com/clintonfriends/

    Now, before you laugh at the source or story, ask yourself how many people that you know who have died under suspicious circumstances......for instance the Vince Foster case.

    Personally, I liked Gingrich's speech...during his summation of the terror attacks against the west over the past year NBC quickly cut away. Pretty funny watching the mainstream media deny that we are at war with militant islam.

    These are some crazy times, that is for sure.


    Is rape on a par with high treason? 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2016 - 9:18 AM ET #12

    Anyone from Jersey was laughing their a** off at the speech given Christie has been and will continue to be embroiled in the Bridgegate scandal (which directly screwed the very people paying his salary due to his attempts political retribution), where he was a rat hair from being found guilty himself, after which he would have been removed from office.

    That scandal was precisely the reason Christie basically has abdicated his position as governor and pandered to Trump relentlessly.

    So to go on-stage and proclaim anyone guilty? Wow. That was the height of hypocrisy at its very finest.

    But, count on the frat boys to praise him without context. Here they are, throwing roses as expected.
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    Anyone from Jersey was laughing their a** off at the speech given Christie has been and will continue to be embroiled in the Bridgegate scandal (which directly screwed the very people paying his salary due to his attempts political retribution), where he was a rat hair from being found guilty himself, after which he would have been removed from office.

    That scandal was precisely the reason Christie basically has abdicated his position as governor and pandered to Trump relentlessly.

    So to go on-stage and proclaim anyone guilty? Wow. That was the height of hypocrisy at its very finest.

    But, count on the frat boys to praise him without context. Here they are, throwing roses as expected.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2016 - 11:08 AM ET #13

    I have not spent 30 seconds watching any of this, nor will I spend 30 seconds when the dems are wasting air time. I dont see any value watching politicians polish each other and pander to their voting base.

    That said, how can the repubs parade these jokers out and think they stand a solid chance to win? Christie and Trump and Cruz???

    And the Trump clan trying to slap some lipstick on their atrocious father, how can anyone with any brain cells fall for this crap?

    I dont think I have seen a more pathetic candidate in my life than Trump, yet if you didnt know better reading this thread you might think he actually has solid merit to lead this country?

    Reply
    I have not spent 30 seconds watching any of this, nor will I spend 30 seconds when the dems are wasting air time. I dont see any value watching politicians polish each other and pander to their voting base.

    That said, how can the repubs parade these jokers out and think they stand a solid chance to win? Christie and Trump and Cruz???

    And the Trump clan trying to slap some lipstick on their atrocious father, how can anyone with any brain cells fall for this crap?

    I dont think I have seen a more pathetic candidate in my life than Trump, yet if you didnt know better reading this thread you might think he actually has solid merit to lead this country?

     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2016 - 11:35 AM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    I have not spent 30 seconds watching any of this, nor will I spend 30 seconds when the dems are wasting air time. I dont see any value watching politicians polish each other and pander to their voting base.

    That said, how can the repubs parade these jokers out and think they stand a solid chance to win? Christie and Trump and Cruz???

    And the Trump clan trying to slap some lipstick on their atrocious father, how can anyone with any brain cells fall for this crap?

    I dont think I have seen a more pathetic candidate in my life than Trump, yet if you didnt know better reading this thread you might think he actually has solid merit to lead this country?


    There's a reason both Putin and Kim Jong Un have endorsed this guy. 
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    I have not spent 30 seconds watching any of this, nor will I spend 30 seconds when the dems are wasting air time. I dont see any value watching politicians polish each other and pander to their voting base.

    That said, how can the repubs parade these jokers out and think they stand a solid chance to win? Christie and Trump and Cruz???

    And the Trump clan trying to slap some lipstick on their atrocious father, how can anyone with any brain cells fall for this crap?

    I dont think I have seen a more pathetic candidate in my life than Trump, yet if you didnt know better reading this thread you might think he actually has solid merit to lead this country?


    There's a reason both Putin and Kim Jong Un have endorsed this guy. 
     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2016 - 12:18 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    I have not spent 30 seconds watching any of this, nor will I spend 30 seconds when the dems are wasting air time. I dont see any value watching politicians polish each other and pander to their voting base.

    That said, how can the repubs parade these jokers out and think they stand a solid chance to win? Christie and Trump and Cruz???

    And the Trump clan trying to slap some lipstick on their atrocious father, how can anyone with any brain cells fall for this crap?

    I dont think I have seen a more pathetic candidate in my life than Trump, yet if you didnt know better reading this thread you might think he actually has solid merit to lead this country?


    And to think Dan Quayle was mercilessly mocked for misspelling 'potato' with an 'e'.


    Trump and crew make him look like a Mensa member today.
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    I have not spent 30 seconds watching any of this, nor will I spend 30 seconds when the dems are wasting air time. I dont see any value watching politicians polish each other and pander to their voting base.

    That said, how can the repubs parade these jokers out and think they stand a solid chance to win? Christie and Trump and Cruz???

    And the Trump clan trying to slap some lipstick on their atrocious father, how can anyone with any brain cells fall for this crap?

    I dont think I have seen a more pathetic candidate in my life than Trump, yet if you didnt know better reading this thread you might think he actually has solid merit to lead this country?


    And to think Dan Quayle was mercilessly mocked for misspelling 'potato' with an 'e'.


    Trump and crew make him look like a Mensa member today.
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