i love how in europe its just completely normal lol
I think once it become common in America people would figure out who should be topless. Sure, there is always going to be people that won't get it like women that wear a two peice when they should be wearing a once piece with a cover up. But I think because American society is based on this type of repression of exposure, when you ha e silly things like this, you have people that shouldn't be exposing themselves doing so.
It's weird how on one end you have European society that is comfortable with the Freedom to have women show their bodies and then on the other side you have the Muslim theocratic/moralistic society that wants women to cover up.
Then you have the American society that has the choice of the European Freedom vs Muslim theocratic/moralistic cover up and ironically between a choice of Freedom and theocratic/moralistic cover up, American society does not side with Freedom.
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i love how in europe its just completely normal lol
I think once it become common in America people would figure out who should be topless. Sure, there is always going to be people that won't get it like women that wear a two peice when they should be wearing a once piece with a cover up. But I think because American society is based on this type of repression of exposure, when you ha e silly things like this, you have people that shouldn't be exposing themselves doing so.
It's weird how on one end you have European society that is comfortable with the Freedom to have women show their bodies and then on the other side you have the Muslim theocratic/moralistic society that wants women to cover up.
Then you have the American society that has the choice of the European Freedom vs Muslim theocratic/moralistic cover up and ironically between a choice of Freedom and theocratic/moralistic cover up, American society does not side with Freedom.
Jesus Christ dl36- America has no tradition of Muslim Sharria but did you ever hear of the Puritans??? (like the Pilgrims ) In NY state a woman can go topless anywhere a man might go topless (at the beach,jogging,at a park) and a majority of the women you need to avert your gaze because the good ones don't flash in public.
Jesus Christ dl36- America has no tradition of Muslim Sharria but did you ever hear of the Puritans??? (like the Pilgrims ) In NY state a woman can go topless anywhere a man might go topless (at the beach,jogging,at a park) and a majority of the women you need to avert your gaze because the good ones don't flash in public.
Yeah but it's because we have a society that doesn't promote that type of freedom. In fact with strip clubs we commoditize it and make it something people pay money for, so why would women show it for free if they could make money?
But it is beyond that because Americans society embraces the cover up route it results in a women who shows a little cleavage or boobs being oogled and creeped out so they want to cover up. If it became common place men would glance but then their eyes would be on to the next woman that isn't covered up.
But perhaps you're right. The problem is Christianity beginning with puritans and now the theocratic/moralistic Christians that seek to impose their religious beliefs on all society and do away with church and state. The theocratic/moralistic/religious influence works on many levels I guess.
Yeah but it's because we have a society that doesn't promote that type of freedom. In fact with strip clubs we commoditize it and make it something people pay money for, so why would women show it for free if they could make money?
But it is beyond that because Americans society embraces the cover up route it results in a women who shows a little cleavage or boobs being oogled and creeped out so they want to cover up. If it became common place men would glance but then their eyes would be on to the next woman that isn't covered up.
But perhaps you're right. The problem is Christianity beginning with puritans and now the theocratic/moralistic Christians that seek to impose their religious beliefs on all society and do away with church and state. The theocratic/moralistic/religious influence works on many levels I guess.
But it is beyond that because Americans society embraces the cover up route it results in a women who shows a little cleavage or boobs being oogled and creeped out so they want to cover up
That will never change as long as there are Sportsfans running around in Kentucky.....
Quote Originally Posted by dl36:
But it is beyond that because Americans society embraces the cover up route it results in a women who shows a little cleavage or boobs being oogled and creeped out so they want to cover up
That will never change as long as there are Sportsfans running around in Kentucky.....