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Gall Bladder Surgery a possible scam in some cases.

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VegasMauler

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Posted: Oct. 4, 2016 - 11:29 PM ET #1

About 9 months ago I had severe abdominal pain and wasnt sure what it was. I went to the ER and they didnt diagnose me, didnt do adequate testing etc, I thought it might be heartburn and while I explained that I was literally writhing in pain for hours, the doctor did not even mention the possibility of gallstones or that it could be a gall bladder issue.

It happened to me the other day again,this time even more severe. I had an ultrasound, bloodwork, X rays, urine sample, the whole 9 yards. I have gallstones and a supposed gallbladder infection, and they are saying I could possibly potentially die without surgery. The behavior and the things the nurse told me werent really adding up and I got a weird feeling. I have since done a ton of research and read online from multiple sources that hospitals and doctors will often push people to have surgery when it is in fact not necessary because its big business for them. That would be consustent with the feeling I got from the nurse.

Also I have read from several dozen or so sources that since having their gullbladder removed their have been worsening of symptoms and various complications and in some cases even death.

On a side note, I am now considering suing the first hospital I visited who didnt even diagnose me as it seems to be to be a textbook case of malpractice. Anyone think I have a strong case here?

thirdperson

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Posted: Oct. 5, 2016 - 7:54 AM ET #2

Bring records and enough information to a experienced medical malpractice lawyer to assess your case and decide on best course of action. Some lawyers provide free consultation for first hour.

Before surgery, second opinion from a different doctor may find surgery unnecessary in 10-20% of operations. Non-surgery treatments might be effective. Most common error is wrong cutting of bile duct while removing gallbladder. Risk is 1 in 200 surgeries. This error may be prevented by pre-op x-ray to locate duct.

VegasMauler

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Posted: Oct. 5, 2016 - 9:42 PM ET #3

Great info thirdperson. Good man.

TRAIN69

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Posted: Oct. 6, 2016 - 10:49 PM ET #4

Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

Bring records and enough information to a experienced medical malpractice lawyer to assess your case and decide on best course of action. Some lawyers provide free consultation for first hour.

Before surgery, second opinion from a different doctor may find surgery unnecessary in 10-20% of operations. Non-surgery treatments might be effective. Most common error is wrong cutting of bile duct while removing gallbladder. Risk is 1 in 200 surgeries. This error may be prevented by pre-op x-ray to locate duct.

Pre op xray?

You wont see any duct on an xray. The surgeon will view the gall bladder and duct under flouro (live xray) during the procedure and injection dye after clamping off the duct to ensure its correct. Obviously errors can occur....

The nurse aint gonna see a dime for your surgery and most likely didnt care if you lived or died, so long as you got out of her room. If you have gallstones the aint gonna go away on their own. The pain may subside, but if one gets lodged it very bad news.

There are terrible Docs out there for sure. but you sound like a HORRIBLE patient. You describe heartburn and want them to do xrays or a CT scan?? Then the 2nd time it happens you DONT BELIEVE THEM, but wanna sue the 1st hospital.

Jesus.

theKCco_op

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Posted: Oct. 7, 2016 - 4:09 PM ET #5

Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

Pre op xray?

You wont see any duct on an xray. The surgeon will view the gall bladder and duct under flouro (live xray) during the procedure and injection dye after clamping off the duct to ensure its correct. Obviously errors can occur....

Jesus.

This is correct, just had mine taken out 5 weeks ago. Everyone is different and there are multiple reasons why you may need it removed. Easiest surgery and recovery around it was...

JEFFMARKETCAP

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Posted: Oct. 7, 2016 - 8:11 PM ET #6

Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

Pre op xray?

Jesus.

Lap Chole with Cholangiogram

I did one today in Surgery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpAy3Sq_2no

JayDC

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Posted: Oct. 9, 2016 - 8:47 AM ET #7

Hey! You know what, I believe most Gall bladder surgeries are a way for the hospitals and doctors to make money. I had mine checked 4 months ago because I had this extreme pain the the back. They've scanned my GB several times because they're seeing a shadow and it's causing radio frequency to give off high fluctuations. The doctor said that I had a Gallstone and the Gall bladder needs to be surgically removed. You know what I did? I searched for several alternative ways to control or expel the stone without having the surgery and I've come up with a solution. The solution is to medicate--the medication has to be done for 3 months without fail and honestly it worked. I went back to the doctor to report and have my 2nd test done and to the doctor's shock, he declared that I'm gallstone free. I told my doctor about the medication method I've done and he's just told me that the stone may come back. I can see on his face that he's bluffing because he stutters when I've mentioned the name of the medicine. Anyway, I'm happy now that I don't have to shell out big amount for the surgery and man, having your stomach open is scary.

mainman11111

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Posted: Oct. 9, 2016 - 11:48 AM ET #8

wgere do u ppl live

been seeing 10000percent increASE in ER visits due to similar symptoms in my area

VegasMauler

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Posted: Oct. 25, 2016 - 7:43 PM ET #9

I had my gallbladder taken out a couple weeks ago.

bill702

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Posted: Oct. 25, 2016 - 8:30 PM ET #10

Quote Originally Posted by VegasMauler:

I had my gallbladder taken out a couple weeks ago.

Did you figure out who you're going to sue yet?

TRAIN69

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Posted: Oct. 28, 2016 - 8:53 PM ET #11

Quote Originally Posted by JayDC:

Hey! You know what, I believe most Gall bladder surgeries are a way for the hospitals and doctors to make money. I had mine checked 4 months ago because I had this extreme pain the the back. They've scanned my GB several times because they're seeing a shadow and it's causing radio frequency to give off high fluctuations. The doctor said that I had a Gallstone and the Gall bladder needs to be surgically removed. You know what I did? I searched for several alternative ways to control or expel the stone without having the surgery and I've come up with a solution. The solution is to medicate--the medication has to be done for 3 months without fail and honestly it worked. I went back to the doctor to report and have my 2nd test done and to the doctor's shock, he declared that I'm gallstone free. I told my doctor about the medication method I've done and he's just told me that the stone may come back. I can see on his face that he's bluffing because he stutters when I've mentioned the name of the medicine. Anyway, I'm happy now that I don't have to shell out big amount for the surgery and man, having your stomach open is scary.