Ethiopia crash

Boeing 737 Max 8 grounded worldwide. Why?

Tragic but maybe train your pilots how to properly trim and input the airplane. Lion Air crash neither pilot had any business in that cockpit and they have found the jack screw positioned in a nose down angle of attack in the 2nd crash. 

Think Boeing is not at fault here but we'll see. NTSB is not getting full cooperation from Ethiopia and the crash site was never secure.

What a mess.

I totally agree with you... here in America, this plane has been a success so far as companies love the efficiency of the aircraft

Overall, this plane may need a slight upgrade to the MCAS system like they are discussing, but this plane seems to be a good one and I'm really surprised everyone grounded them so quickly.

Poor Boeing, this was their 2018 and 19 exciting project for every company around the world and because of the awful pilots and messy circumstances, the plane is now a "trash product" and cant be flown anywhere even tho it was fully tested as a great airplane before any of these happenings. 

It's really sad that people are now "scared to step inside a 737".....what a joke...

Easy to blame the pilots but two crashes in five months, involving a plane in relative infancy, justifies the groundings.

As far as being afraid to step into 737's, the original next gen 737's are still work horses. I was just in one today. I'm in them several times a month. However the max 8 is a different aircraft. And pilots around the world, including our own, have not received sufficient training on it. The thinking was that it is similar enough to current next gen 737s to not warrant specific training, so adequate training wasn' required. It was all to save money for the corporate fukks (shout out) and now it's biting them in the arse.

Give it 10 years and this will all be forgotten and the 737 max will be the workhorse that it's predecessor is.

It looks like it wasn't the pilots. It really was something wrong with the plane. Some kind of jackscrew that controls the nose of the plane.

Can't post links, but you can read at sfgate or some other site.

The jack screw sits on the horizontal stabilizer which controls the attitude of the nose. up or down. They found it in the down position it looks like. Pilots didn't set it correctly at take off I believe. 

We shall see.

No Max 8 sim training from ANY of the pilots in both crashes. Lives lost and Boeing should not be held accountable. Best airplanes in the world. 

Upgrade the software so it's dummy proof? Sure. Took Boeing literally an hour on each airplane at no charge..

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ethiopia-airplane-simulator-exclusive/ethiopia-crash-captain-did-not-train-on-airlines-max-simulator-source-idUSKCN1R20WD

Our pilots weren't required to have any sim training either. The airlines are mostly to blame but Boeing holds part of this one. It's all the corporate fukks. (GG)

Stu, correct. FAA and Boeing stated that they did not require sim train and FAA signed off on that... Well said on the corporate fuk. 

I think maybe FAA might be on the hook here. Interesting to see the FBI now on scene.