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    Ejecting people cause they are big winners, sk

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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2018 - 1:34 PM ET #1

    Bill would prevent casinos from ejecting people just because they are big winners, skilled gamblers

    Gamblers who win big could hit another jackpot thanks to legislation proposed at the State Capitol.

    The Louisiana Legislature is considering a bill that would prevent gamblers from being ejected or barred from casinos simply because they are too lucky or too skilled – as long as the players aren't breaking the law. In other words, casinos won't be able to kick out gamblers when they win big or hit a hot streak.

    House Bill 152 passed out of the House Criminal Justice Committee with no objection on Thursday. It now heads to the House floor for consideration.

    Concerned citizens filled the State Capitol in 1992 when the Legislature was deciding whether to legalize a single land casino in New Orleans.

    "I just don't think they should have such wide latitude to exclude people based on skill level or because they won," said Rep. Walt Leger III, a New Orleans Democrat and the bill's sponsor. "Anybody who is cheating or acting disruptively or doing anything unlawful would still be excluded, I just don't want them to be excluded because of skill level."

    Leger said he was approached by someone who had concerns about this being an issue at riverboat casinos in Louisiana.

    Currently, state law allows for people to be banned from casinos if their "presence would be adverse to the interests of Louisiana or gaming operations."

    The Senate Judiciary B Committee on Tuesday approved two floating casino measures: one would allow the casinos to move onto land and have more…

    Leger's bill seeks to outline what that means – specifically those who engage in unlawful or disruptive conduct. The allowable banned or ejected gamblers would include people suspected of cheating, people who are deemed safety threats, people with documented histories of disrupting gaming operations, people facing gambling-related criminal charges. HB152 further would add to law that "a person may not be excluded from a gaming establishment operated by a licensee or the casino operator for reasons based solely on the skill level of the person."

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    Bill would prevent casinos from ejecting people just because they are big winners, skilled gamblers

    Gamblers who win big could hit another jackpot thanks to legislation proposed at the State Capitol.

    The Louisiana Legislature is considering a bill that would prevent gamblers from being ejected or barred from casinos simply because they are too lucky or too skilled – as long as the players aren't breaking the law. In other words, casinos won't be able to kick out gamblers when they win big or hit a hot streak.

    House Bill 152 passed out of the House Criminal Justice Committee with no objection on Thursday. It now heads to the House floor for consideration.

    Concerned citizens filled the State Capitol in 1992 when the Legislature was deciding whether to legalize a single land casino in New Orleans.

    "I just don't think they should have such wide latitude to exclude people based on skill level or because they won," said Rep. Walt Leger III, a New Orleans Democrat and the bill's sponsor. "Anybody who is cheating or acting disruptively or doing anything unlawful would still be excluded, I just don't want them to be excluded because of skill level."

    Leger said he was approached by someone who had concerns about this being an issue at riverboat casinos in Louisiana.

    Currently, state law allows for people to be banned from casinos if their "presence would be adverse to the interests of Louisiana or gaming operations."

    The Senate Judiciary B Committee on Tuesday approved two floating casino measures: one would allow the casinos to move onto land and have more…

    Leger's bill seeks to outline what that means – specifically those who engage in unlawful or disruptive conduct. The allowable banned or ejected gamblers would include people suspected of cheating, people who are deemed safety threats, people with documented histories of disrupting gaming operations, people facing gambling-related criminal charges. HB152 further would add to law that "a person may not be excluded from a gaming establishment operated by a licensee or the casino operator for reasons based solely on the skill level of the person."

     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2018 - 2:04 PM ET #2


    Interesting read thanks for posting.  Up here in CT we have the two huge Indian Casinos, Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun.  They have virtually absolute say and there are no guaranteed protections whatsoever.  You are considered to be on THEIR Indian Reservation and if you slip and fall... Tough Cookies.  You can't sue.  If they want to ban you for life because they don't like you... You're gone.  No legal protection whatsoever.  I know because 15 years ago I was banned from Mohegan Sun for life.  I've sneaked back in for special things like the Kentucky Derby, Concerts, and such but will never again gamble there on the casino floor.  It would be just my luck to win a $1m jackpot and be denied payment because I was banned and not supposed to be on their property.  And Mohegan Sun would do it too.  They are nasty people.
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    Interesting read thanks for posting.  Up here in CT we have the two huge Indian Casinos, Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun.  They have virtually absolute say and there are no guaranteed protections whatsoever.  You are considered to be on THEIR Indian Reservation and if you slip and fall... Tough Cookies.  You can't sue.  If they want to ban you for life because they don't like you... You're gone.  No legal protection whatsoever.  I know because 15 years ago I was banned from Mohegan Sun for life.  I've sneaked back in for special things like the Kentucky Derby, Concerts, and such but will never again gamble there on the casino floor.  It would be just my luck to win a $1m jackpot and be denied payment because I was banned and not supposed to be on their property.  And Mohegan Sun would do it too.  They are nasty people.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2018 - 2:36 PM ET #3

    Card Counting at the Blackjack Table.Is that skill or is that cheating?
    When I lived in LasVegas Security would say to my friend that his play was determental (sp) to the casino and escort him out.
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    Card Counting at the Blackjack Table.Is that skill or is that cheating?
    When I lived in LasVegas Security would say to my friend that his play was determental (sp) to the casino and escort him out.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2018 - 2:41 PM ET #4

    They can refuse ypur action at any time ....

    BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!
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    They can refuse ypur action at any time ....

     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2018 - 10:13 PM ET #5


    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:


    Interesting read thanks for posting.  Up here in CT we have the two huge Indian Casinos, Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun.  They have virtually absolute say and there are no guaranteed protections whatsoever.  You are considered to be on THEIR Indian Reservation and if you slip and fall... Tough Cookies.  You can't sue.  If they want to ban you for life because they don't like you... You're gone.  No legal protection whatsoever.  I know because 15 years ago I was banned from Mohegan Sun for life.  I've sneaked back in for special things like the Kentucky Derby, Concerts, and such but will never again gamble there on the casino floor.  It would be just my luck to win a $1m jackpot and be denied payment because I was banned and not supposed to be on their property.  And Mohegan Sun would do it too.  They are nasty people.

    C'mon Goose....gotta share.

    What got you banned?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:


    Interesting read thanks for posting.  Up here in CT we have the two huge Indian Casinos, Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun.  They have virtually absolute say and there are no guaranteed protections whatsoever.  You are considered to be on THEIR Indian Reservation and if you slip and fall... Tough Cookies.  You can't sue.  If they want to ban you for life because they don't like you... You're gone.  No legal protection whatsoever.  I know because 15 years ago I was banned from Mohegan Sun for life.  I've sneaked back in for special things like the Kentucky Derby, Concerts, and such but will never again gamble there on the casino floor.  It would be just my luck to win a $1m jackpot and be denied payment because I was banned and not supposed to be on their property.  And Mohegan Sun would do it too.  They are nasty people.

    C'mon Goose....gotta share.

    What got you banned?
     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2018 - 12:56 AM ET #6

    I've always ejected myself for being a big loser. Casino is never happy.

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    I've always ejected myself for being a big loser. Casino is never happy.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2018 - 6:38 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:


    C'mon Goose....gotta share.

    What got you banned?


    See post # 177 in my "You want THE TRUTH" Thread here in General Discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:


    C'mon Goose....gotta share.

    What got you banned?


    See post # 177 in my "You want THE TRUTH" Thread here in General Discussion.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2018 - 11:59 AM ET #8

    Wow...never heard or seen a machine explode. 
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    Wow...never heard or seen a machine explode. 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 27, 2018 - 2:07 PM ET #9

    The key word is banned. Being a private enterprise-they'll simply refuse your action on the game you're beating-but won't ban you or bar you from the premises.
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    The key word is banned. Being a private enterprise-they'll simply refuse your action on the game you're beating-but won't ban you or bar you from the premises.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2018 - 7:40 PM ET #10

    This is extremely enlightening, kudos for Louisiana(if it passes).
    Nevada gets away with too much garbage, and NJ needs this if they plan on being successful, as they have partnered with a real shady dealer in WillHill.
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    This is extremely enlightening, kudos for Louisiana(if it passes).
    Nevada gets away with too much garbage, and NJ needs this if they plan on being successful, as they have partnered with a real shady dealer in WillHill.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2018 - 10:10 AM ET #11

    Even if the bill passes, there are ways the casino can make a profitable gambler uncomfortable.  Close the table every time he sits down, have 6 stooges sit down with him every time he sits down, have 3 pit bosses hover over him, reduce the max bet and raise the min bet, etc
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    Even if the bill passes, there are ways the casino can make a profitable gambler uncomfortable.  Close the table every time he sits down, have 6 stooges sit down with him every time he sits down, have 3 pit bosses hover over him, reduce the max bet and raise the min bet, etc
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2018 - 4:47 PM ET #12

    Heard about a gambler in Vegas that hit a 10 team football parlay winning 20k....casino banned him as a troublemaker. this gambler was playing 10 team parlays at the casino for 20 years never winning and betting more than 25k at the casino over those years. 

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    Heard about a gambler in Vegas that hit a 10 team football parlay winning 20k....casino banned him as a troublemaker. this gambler was playing 10 team parlays at the casino for 20 years never winning and betting more than 25k at the casino over those years. 

     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2018 - 4:08 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by TexanGambler:

    They should ban people from gambling if they don't finish school or have the job because we have more than 39 million homeless people.
    Get a gambling license or no wagering!

    You trying to ban yourself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TexanGambler:

    They should ban people from gambling if they don't finish school or have the job because we have more than 39 million homeless people.
    Get a gambling license or no wagering!

    You trying to ban yourself?
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