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    Democrats Are Pulling Out All Of The Stops: Felons To Vote

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    bigvern1013
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2016 - 6:19 PM ET #1

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/virginia%E2%80%99s-mcauliffe-to-announce-restoration-of-voting-rights-to-13000-felons/ar-BBvQDBp

    A prime example of "the punk" Terry McAuliffe taking orders from the Clinton camp. I have to hand it to the democrats, they play hardball and leave no stone unturned to get an edge.

    The Clintons are criminals.

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/virginia%E2%80%99s-mcauliffe-to-announce-restoration-of-voting-rights-to-13000-felons/ar-BBvQDBp

    A prime example of "the punk" Terry McAuliffe taking orders from the Clinton camp. I have to hand it to the democrats, they play hardball and leave no stone unturned to get an edge.

    The Clintons are criminals.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2016 - 7:06 PM ET #2

    I highly doubt HRC is worried about losing Kaine's home state. A state which she is already comfortably leading as it is. McAuliffe has to appoint the successor to Kaine, so the felons won't have a say in replacing his senate seat. Maybe, just maybe, this decision was about a persons rights. Face it, Trump ain't winning, and it has nothing to do with a rigged system. Just make your peace that you are backing a bozo, and let it be.
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    I highly doubt HRC is worried about losing Kaine's home state. A state which she is already comfortably leading as it is. McAuliffe has to appoint the successor to Kaine, so the felons won't have a say in replacing his senate seat. Maybe, just maybe, this decision was about a persons rights. Face it, Trump ain't winning, and it has nothing to do with a rigged system. Just make your peace that you are backing a bozo, and let it be.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2016 - 7:23 PM ET #3

    Most States automatically restore voting rights to ex-felons who complete sentences.  However under Virginia's constitution, felons are permanently banned unless Governor restore voting rights.

    According to Washington post poll, majority of Virginians approve of restoring voting rights.  About 45% of ex-felons are black and 90% of blacks voted Democrat in past elections.

     

     

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    Most States automatically restore voting rights to ex-felons who complete sentences.  However under Virginia's constitution, felons are permanently banned unless Governor restore voting rights.

    According to Washington post poll, majority of Virginians approve of restoring voting rights.  About 45% of ex-felons are black and 90% of blacks voted Democrat in past elections.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2016 - 7:27 PM ET #4

    Considering the hundreds of negatives Hillary has, To think Trump hasn't been able to play on any of those negatives and is still lagging behind significantly in the polls is a testament to how bad and dumb of a candidate he is.

    He already appeals to the White working class, All he had to do was do some damage control for the female, Black and Hispanic vote and he was home and dry but no, Not the Trumpster. Firing campaign manager after campaign manager, Creating tension within the party, Shambolic on his part, For a businessman i'm surprised how unorganized he's been.
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    Considering the hundreds of negatives Hillary has, To think Trump hasn't been able to play on any of those negatives and is still lagging behind significantly in the polls is a testament to how bad and dumb of a candidate he is.

    He already appeals to the White working class, All he had to do was do some damage control for the female, Black and Hispanic vote and he was home and dry but no, Not the Trumpster. Firing campaign manager after campaign manager, Creating tension within the party, Shambolic on his part, For a businessman i'm surprised how unorganized he's been.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2016 - 7:28 PM ET #5

    And your candidate Greedy, dis-honest, elitist & above the law... Now she's unstable as well, doing the funky chicken in the middle of an interview. Just what the doctor ordered for a POTUS...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifIAlft47bM
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    And your candidate Greedy, dis-honest, elitist & above the law... Now she's unstable as well, doing the funky chicken in the middle of an interview. Just what the doctor ordered for a POTUS...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifIAlft47bM
     
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2016 - 8:36 PM ET #6

    Oh MY god ...............  that is the funky chicken,,
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    Oh MY god ...............  that is the funky chicken,,
     
    bigvern1013
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2016 - 9:39 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by Greedybastard:

    I highly doubt HRC is worried about losing Kaine's home state. A state which she is already comfortably leading as it is. McAuliffe has to appoint the successor to Kaine, so the felons won't have a say in replacing his senate seat. Maybe, just maybe, this decision was about a persons rights. Face it, Trump ain't winning, and it has nothing to do with a rigged system. Just make your peace that you are backing a bozo, and let it be.

    A person's rights? I don't think that anyone contests the reinstatement of the vote for an example as outlined in the article.....young man commits a robbery, does his time, reforms into a minister and stays clean for 20+ years....not too many people will say that he should be denied the vote.

    BUT, as always, this type of thing sets a precedent. Eventually, with the coming liberal supreme court, the argument will devolve into why can't all people vote, incarcerated or not? Just watch and see.....

    Remember, McAuliffe originally asked for 200,000 felons to be reinstated. IF he had his way, everyone would be on the roles, reformed, incarcerated, or whatever. Also, you bet your asss Hillary ordered this to be done....and more importantly, which counties and districts to heavily reinstate.

    Hillary supporters baffle me.

    You can make book on the following events coming to fruition if she is elected:

    1) Within 2 years the US will have boots on the ground in Syria and South Ossetia, setting up a virtual standoff with Russia.

    2) Obamacare will be expanded during the first term, and it will be costly to privately insure. The impact on small business will be devastating.

    3) Unprecedented gun control will be attempted by way of Executive order.

    4) The US will begin exporting crude oil internationally on a large scale in an attempt to stimulate the economy, and fill the void on global markets that a Russian shutdown is likely to create.

    5) The only good thing that is likely to come from Hillary in the Whitehouse is wide scale student loan forgiveness. But, as always, the hike in taxes will make up for any debt relief that the middle class receives.

    The bottom line is that Hillary wants her place in the history books....she wants legacy. She is an ideologue. That is dangerous.

    Never Make A Winner A Loser. Never.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedybastard:

    I highly doubt HRC is worried about losing Kaine's home state. A state which she is already comfortably leading as it is. McAuliffe has to appoint the successor to Kaine, so the felons won't have a say in replacing his senate seat. Maybe, just maybe, this decision was about a persons rights. Face it, Trump ain't winning, and it has nothing to do with a rigged system. Just make your peace that you are backing a bozo, and let it be.

    A person's rights? I don't think that anyone contests the reinstatement of the vote for an example as outlined in the article.....young man commits a robbery, does his time, reforms into a minister and stays clean for 20+ years....not too many people will say that he should be denied the vote.

    BUT, as always, this type of thing sets a precedent. Eventually, with the coming liberal supreme court, the argument will devolve into why can't all people vote, incarcerated or not? Just watch and see.....

    Remember, McAuliffe originally asked for 200,000 felons to be reinstated. IF he had his way, everyone would be on the roles, reformed, incarcerated, or whatever. Also, you bet your asss Hillary ordered this to be done....and more importantly, which counties and districts to heavily reinstate.

    Hillary supporters baffle me.

    You can make book on the following events coming to fruition if she is elected:

    1) Within 2 years the US will have boots on the ground in Syria and South Ossetia, setting up a virtual standoff with Russia.

    2) Obamacare will be expanded during the first term, and it will be costly to privately insure. The impact on small business will be devastating.

    3) Unprecedented gun control will be attempted by way of Executive order.

    4) The US will begin exporting crude oil internationally on a large scale in an attempt to stimulate the economy, and fill the void on global markets that a Russian shutdown is likely to create.

    5) The only good thing that is likely to come from Hillary in the Whitehouse is wide scale student loan forgiveness. But, as always, the hike in taxes will make up for any debt relief that the middle class receives.

    The bottom line is that Hillary wants her place in the history books....she wants legacy. She is an ideologue. That is dangerous.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2016 - 9:46 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by SwishSwish1234:

    Considering the hundreds of negatives Hillary has, To think Trump hasn't been able to play on any of those negatives and is still lagging behind significantly in the polls is a testament to how bad and dumb of a candidate he is.

    He already appeals to the White working class, All he had to do was do some damage control for the female, Black and Hispanic vote and he was home and dry but no, Not the Trumpster. Firing campaign manager after campaign manager, Creating tension within the party, Shambolic on his part, For a businessman i'm surprised how unorganized he's been.

    1) Consider the origin of the polls

    2) Realize that the republican party hates Trump as much as the Democrats. The tension in the party is not all on Trump....

    3) An election of Trump represents a condemnation of the entire political system in the US. A lot of powerful people on both sides stand to lose their place at the table if he is elected. That makes him the target of both sides.

    4) As for firing campaign managers, who really cares? That is what he does...fire people. How many people on Obama's cabinet have filed resignations?

    5) Admittedly, I do not know what "shambolic" means.

    At the end of the day, we haven't even started yet. Personally, I don't mind what Trump is doing right now at all......bide time. Unload heavy starting in the first week of September.

    Never Make A Winner A Loser. Never.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwishSwish1234:

    Considering the hundreds of negatives Hillary has, To think Trump hasn't been able to play on any of those negatives and is still lagging behind significantly in the polls is a testament to how bad and dumb of a candidate he is.

    He already appeals to the White working class, All he had to do was do some damage control for the female, Black and Hispanic vote and he was home and dry but no, Not the Trumpster. Firing campaign manager after campaign manager, Creating tension within the party, Shambolic on his part, For a businessman i'm surprised how unorganized he's been.

    1) Consider the origin of the polls

    2) Realize that the republican party hates Trump as much as the Democrats. The tension in the party is not all on Trump....

    3) An election of Trump represents a condemnation of the entire political system in the US. A lot of powerful people on both sides stand to lose their place at the table if he is elected. That makes him the target of both sides.

    4) As for firing campaign managers, who really cares? That is what he does...fire people. How many people on Obama's cabinet have filed resignations?

    5) Admittedly, I do not know what "shambolic" means.

    At the end of the day, we haven't even started yet. Personally, I don't mind what Trump is doing right now at all......bide time. Unload heavy starting in the first week of September.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2016 - 10:03 AM ET #9

    They won't even have to cheat to win this time, though I'm sure old habits die hard.
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    They won't even have to cheat to win this time, though I'm sure old habits die hard.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2016 - 4:56 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Most States automatically restore voting rights to ex-felons who complete sentences.  However under Virginia's constitution, felons are permanently banned unless Governor restore voting rights.

    According to Washington post poll, majority of Virginians approve of restoring voting rights.  About 45% of ex-felons are black and 90% of blacks voted Democrat in past elections.




    Restoring voting rights to felons who served their time... why stop there ?   How about gun rights then ...they served their time.?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Most States automatically restore voting rights to ex-felons who complete sentences.  However under Virginia's constitution, felons are permanently banned unless Governor restore voting rights.

    According to Washington post poll, majority of Virginians approve of restoring voting rights.  About 45% of ex-felons are black and 90% of blacks voted Democrat in past elections.




    Restoring voting rights to felons who served their time... why stop there ?   How about gun rights then ...they served their time.?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2016 - 7:19 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:




    Restoring voting rights to felons who served their time... why stop there ?   How about gun rights then ...they served their time.?


    Exactly right. 


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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:




    Restoring voting rights to felons who served their time... why stop there ?   How about gun rights then ...they served their time.?


    Exactly right. 


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwishSwish1234:

    Considering the hundreds of negatives Hillary has, To think Trump hasn't been able to play on any of those negatives and is still lagging behind significantly in the polls is a testament to how bad and dumb of a candidate he is.

    He already appeals to the White working class, All he had to do was do some damage control for the female, Black and Hispanic vote and he was home and dry but no, Not the Trumpster. Firing campaign manager after campaign manager, Creating tension within the party, Shambolic on his part, For a businessman i'm surprised how unorganized he's been.

    It might be a product of his party.  They know how to attack, gang up and pile on but do not know how to market themsleves and sell something worth buying.

    Problem has started long before trump. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwishSwish1234:

    Considering the hundreds of negatives Hillary has, To think Trump hasn't been able to play on any of those negatives and is still lagging behind significantly in the polls is a testament to how bad and dumb of a candidate he is.

    He already appeals to the White working class, All he had to do was do some damage control for the female, Black and Hispanic vote and he was home and dry but no, Not the Trumpster. Firing campaign manager after campaign manager, Creating tension within the party, Shambolic on his part, For a businessman i'm surprised how unorganized he's been.

    It might be a product of his party.  They know how to attack, gang up and pile on but do not know how to market themsleves and sell something worth buying.

    Problem has started long before trump. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Most States automatically restore voting rights to ex-felons who complete sentences.  However under Virginia's constitution, felons are permanently banned unless Governor restore voting rights.

    According to Washington post poll, majority of Virginians approve of restoring voting rights.  About 45% of ex-felons are black and 90% of blacks voted Democrat in past elections.

     

     


    Thank for a rational point of view on the topic.  I doubt if an actual rational response will be coming any time soon.  But that is state of this site and what the people in charge want 
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Most States automatically restore voting rights to ex-felons who complete sentences.  However under Virginia's constitution, felons are permanently banned unless Governor restore voting rights.

    According to Washington post poll, majority of Virginians approve of restoring voting rights.  About 45% of ex-felons are black and 90% of blacks voted Democrat in past elections.

     

     


    Thank for a rational point of view on the topic.  I doubt if an actual rational response will be coming any time soon.  But that is state of this site and what the people in charge want 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    Thank for a rational point of view on the topic.  I doubt if an actual rational response will be coming any time soon.  But that is state of this site and what the people in charge want 

    His response might be rational, but it is not accurate.

    Most states do not automatically restore voting rights upon completion of sentences.
    What the states that he is referencing offer is that some ex-felons may apply to have their voting rights restored.
    This application process is not only burdensome, and is terribly flawed.

    For a brief review of the difficulty ex-felons face, read the section titled "Barriers To The Restoration Of Rights" which can be found half way down the attached page ...
    https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/felon-voting-rights.aspx

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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    Thank for a rational point of view on the topic.  I doubt if an actual rational response will be coming any time soon.  But that is state of this site and what the people in charge want 

    His response might be rational, but it is not accurate.

    Most states do not automatically restore voting rights upon completion of sentences.
    What the states that he is referencing offer is that some ex-felons may apply to have their voting rights restored.
    This application process is not only burdensome, and is terribly flawed.

    For a brief review of the difficulty ex-felons face, read the section titled "Barriers To The Restoration Of Rights" which can be found half way down the attached page ...
    https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/felon-voting-rights.aspx

     
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    So most states don't automatically Restore voting rights?  Can anyone verify the actual number?

    Makes sense to me I guess in that states would have differences in their path to restoring voting rights to felons.  But the extremist route of never restoring seems like something that would evetntually be changed. But at this point honestly it's not about rights just like voter ID. It's about one side trying to push and agenda to help itself win in the voting booths 

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    So most states don't automatically Restore voting rights?  Can anyone verify the actual number?

    Makes sense to me I guess in that states would have differences in their path to restoring voting rights to felons.  But the extremist route of never restoring seems like something that would evetntually be changed. But at this point honestly it's not about rights just like voter ID. It's about one side trying to push and agenda to help itself win in the voting booths 

     
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    I disagree when you say "it's about one side trying to push an agenda ..."

    To me it is about both sides trying to push their agenda, in this case that agenda being an advantage at the voting booths.

    Hypothetically ... there's many men who are repeatedly convicted of violent crimes, including rape. Men who have never worked a real job a single day in their lives. They are now in their 40's and have spent more than half of their lives incarcerated. These men show no remorse, and have most definitely not been reformed within the prison system, where their behavior was a burden on the other inmates.

    They have now served their full sentence.

    The Democratic party would argue to immediately restore their voting rights. Not because they feel this is the right thing to do, or because they care one iota about the inmates, but simply because the chances are they would vote democratic.

    This is the epitome of an agenda.

    Do the Republicans also have an agenda? Of course they do. 
    This is a very serious game, with huge implications. But please don't continue to paint only the Republicans as the bad guy. The Democrats are just as corrupt (in HRC's case, more so) and their agenda's run just as deep.

    The entire political system is fvcked 
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    I disagree when you say "it's about one side trying to push an agenda ..."

    To me it is about both sides trying to push their agenda, in this case that agenda being an advantage at the voting booths.

    Hypothetically ... there's many men who are repeatedly convicted of violent crimes, including rape. Men who have never worked a real job a single day in their lives. They are now in their 40's and have spent more than half of their lives incarcerated. These men show no remorse, and have most definitely not been reformed within the prison system, where their behavior was a burden on the other inmates.

    They have now served their full sentence.

    The Democratic party would argue to immediately restore their voting rights. Not because they feel this is the right thing to do, or because they care one iota about the inmates, but simply because the chances are they would vote democratic.

    This is the epitome of an agenda.

    Do the Republicans also have an agenda? Of course they do. 
    This is a very serious game, with huge implications. But please don't continue to paint only the Republicans as the bad guy. The Democrats are just as corrupt (in HRC's case, more so) and their agenda's run just as deep.

    The entire political system is fvcked 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:


    His response might be rational, but it is not accurate.

    Most states do not automatically restore voting rights upon completion of sentences.
    What the states that he is referencing offer is that some ex-felons may apply to have their voting rights restored.
    This application process is not only burdensome, and is terribly flawed.

    For a brief review of the difficulty ex-felons face, read the section titled "Barriers To The Restoration Of Rights" which can be found half way down the attached page ...
    https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/felon-voting-rights.aspx

    Exactly.

    Thirdperson's point is delivered in a calm, rational manner. And it is completely misleading. Reminds me of watching MSNBC.

    This election year is wearing me down...so many flawed arguments, so much BS, so much noise.

    One thing is for sure....every media outlet in the United States has it in for Trump. I don't think we have ever seen a guy that is the butt of more jokes, the object of more ridicule, and is repeatedly dubbed "stupid." (Possibly George W Bush, but that was more a function of the media clearing its conscience after initially supporting the Iraq war in post 9-11 America)

    Unequivocally, the media narrative is as follows......the sun rises in the east, the sky is blue, and Trump is stupid. If being "stupid" can get you a private jet, high rise penthouses, and a family that will go on national TV to praise your wares, who needs to be "smart"?

    The bottom line of the general sour attitude towards Trump is that the talking heads and "journalists" still have to go to work and take orders...Trump doesn't.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:


    His response might be rational, but it is not accurate.

    Most states do not automatically restore voting rights upon completion of sentences.
    What the states that he is referencing offer is that some ex-felons may apply to have their voting rights restored.
    This application process is not only burdensome, and is terribly flawed.

    For a brief review of the difficulty ex-felons face, read the section titled "Barriers To The Restoration Of Rights" which can be found half way down the attached page ...
    https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/felon-voting-rights.aspx

    Exactly.

    Thirdperson's point is delivered in a calm, rational manner. And it is completely misleading. Reminds me of watching MSNBC.

    This election year is wearing me down...so many flawed arguments, so much BS, so much noise.

    One thing is for sure....every media outlet in the United States has it in for Trump. I don't think we have ever seen a guy that is the butt of more jokes, the object of more ridicule, and is repeatedly dubbed "stupid." (Possibly George W Bush, but that was more a function of the media clearing its conscience after initially supporting the Iraq war in post 9-11 America)

    Unequivocally, the media narrative is as follows......the sun rises in the east, the sky is blue, and Trump is stupid. If being "stupid" can get you a private jet, high rise penthouses, and a family that will go on national TV to praise your wares, who needs to be "smart"?

    The bottom line of the general sour attitude towards Trump is that the talking heads and "journalists" still have to go to work and take orders...Trump doesn't.

     

     
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    According to National conference of State legislatures, laws in 38 States allow most ex-felons to regain voting rights automatically after completion of sentence.  9 States require governor or court action to restore rights. 
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    According to National conference of State legislatures, laws in 38 States allow most ex-felons to regain voting rights automatically after completion of sentence.  9 States require governor or court action to restore rights. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:




    For a brief review of the difficulty ex-felons face, read the section titled "Barriers To The Restoration Of Rights" which can be found half way down the attached page ...
    https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/felon-voting-rights.aspx

    Ex-felons face similar barriers of ordinary non-felon voters in registering to vote,  That is, paper work and lack of information.  Still under the law, eligible voters automatically have the right to vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:




    For a brief review of the difficulty ex-felons face, read the section titled "Barriers To The Restoration Of Rights" which can be found half way down the attached page ...
    https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/felon-voting-rights.aspx

    Ex-felons face similar barriers of ordinary non-felon voters in registering to vote,  That is, paper work and lack of information.  Still under the law, eligible voters automatically have the right to vote.
     
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    Ok, sounds good. The bottom line is that the reinstatement process varies wildly from state to state and district to district. Depending on where you are at, the odds of being able to vote as a convicted felon are dependent upon local restrictions.
     
    The link posted above pretty much spells it out: https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/felon-voting-rights.aspx
     
    To the point of the thread, here is McAuliffe's executive order: https://commonwealth.virginia.gov/judicial-system/restoration-of-rights/
     
    I find the second paragraph to be most instructive....and the point of the thread in the first place:
     
    After a thorough review process, Governor McAuliffe will direct the Secretary’s office to process the restoration paperwork for each individual that meet his criteria for restoration.  For the citizens who have not contacted the office, the Secretary of the Commonwealth will also be systematically identifying individuals who meet the criteria for the Governor’s consideration. Once the Governor has restored rights to an individual, a personalized restoration order will be mailed to him/her.
     
    So, McAuliffe, at the direction of the Democratic party, will be deciding who gets reinstated for the vote in November and who doesn't.
     
    Like I said in the beginning, the Dems leave no stone unturned when it comes to stacking the election deck.
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    Ok, sounds good. The bottom line is that the reinstatement process varies wildly from state to state and district to district. Depending on where you are at, the odds of being able to vote as a convicted felon are dependent upon local restrictions.
     
    The link posted above pretty much spells it out: https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/felon-voting-rights.aspx
     
    To the point of the thread, here is McAuliffe's executive order: https://commonwealth.virginia.gov/judicial-system/restoration-of-rights/
     
    I find the second paragraph to be most instructive....and the point of the thread in the first place:
     
    After a thorough review process, Governor McAuliffe will direct the Secretary’s office to process the restoration paperwork for each individual that meet his criteria for restoration.  For the citizens who have not contacted the office, the Secretary of the Commonwealth will also be systematically identifying individuals who meet the criteria for the Governor’s consideration. Once the Governor has restored rights to an individual, a personalized restoration order will be mailed to him/her.
     
    So, McAuliffe, at the direction of the Democratic party, will be deciding who gets reinstated for the vote in November and who doesn't.
     
    Like I said in the beginning, the Dems leave no stone unturned when it comes to stacking the election deck.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigvern1013:

     
    Like I said in the beginning, the Dems leave no stone unturned when it comes to stacking the election deck.

    This is small potatos compared to the deck stacking the Republicans do gerrymandering their districts.  

    "In 2011, they engineered a set of congressional district maps that in the elections of 2012 helped them swing the state’s U.S. House delegation from seven Democrats, six Republicans to four Democrats, nine Republicans – even while Democratic candidates received 51 percent of all the votes cast."

    https://jeffersonpost.com/opinion/4995/gerrymandering-in-north-carolina-have-conservatives-finally-gone-too-far
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigvern1013:

     
    Like I said in the beginning, the Dems leave no stone unturned when it comes to stacking the election deck.

    This is small potatos compared to the deck stacking the Republicans do gerrymandering their districts.  

    "In 2011, they engineered a set of congressional district maps that in the elections of 2012 helped them swing the state’s U.S. House delegation from seven Democrats, six Republicans to four Democrats, nine Republicans – even while Democratic candidates received 51 percent of all the votes cast."

    https://jeffersonpost.com/opinion/4995/gerrymandering-in-north-carolina-have-conservatives-finally-gone-too-far
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:


    His response might be rational, but it is not accurate.

    Most states do not automatically restore voting rights upon completion of sentences.
    What the states that he is referencing offer is that some ex-felons may apply to have their voting rights restored.

    Actually, most States (38) automatically restore voting rights to ex-felons after completion of sentence according to washingtonpost, Economist, theatlantic, Brennan center and National conference of State legislatures. 

    Although voting rights are automatically restored, registering to vote may not be easy for ex-felons and ordinary voters.  But not as hard as requiring governor or court action to restore voting rights in a minority of 9 States.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:


    His response might be rational, but it is not accurate.

    Most states do not automatically restore voting rights upon completion of sentences.
    What the states that he is referencing offer is that some ex-felons may apply to have their voting rights restored.

    Actually, most States (38) automatically restore voting rights to ex-felons after completion of sentence according to washingtonpost, Economist, theatlantic, Brennan center and National conference of State legislatures. 

    Although voting rights are automatically restored, registering to vote may not be easy for ex-felons and ordinary voters.  But not as hard as requiring governor or court action to restore voting rights in a minority of 9 States.
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