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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2008 - 12:48 PM ET #1

    The Orange County Sheriff's Office says a utility worker found the body early Thursday, about a half mile from the home of Caylee Anthony's grandparents.

    There is nothing that immediately indicates that the bones belong to Caylee Anthony, whose mother Casey Anthony has been charged with murder.

    Casey Anthony insists that she left the girl with a baby sitter in June, but did not report her missing until July.

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    The Orange County Sheriff's Office says a utility worker found the body early Thursday, about a half mile from the home of Caylee Anthony's grandparents.

    There is nothing that immediately indicates that the bones belong to Caylee Anthony, whose mother Casey Anthony has been charged with murder.

    Casey Anthony insists that she left the girl with a baby sitter in June, but did not report her missing until July.

    FRY THIS MOTHER NOW.....NO PAIN IS TOO MUCH

     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2008 - 12:57 PM ET #2

    ORLANDO, Fla. -- A utility worker on Thursday found the skeletal remains of a child in Orange County in a wooded area located less than half a mile from the home of the George and Cindy Anthony, whose 3-year-old granddaughter, Caylee, has been missing since mid-June, authorities said.
     
    The remains, located inside a garbage bag, were discovered by the worker around 9:30 a.m. near South Chickasaw Trail and Suburban Drive, less than four-tenths of a mile from the Anthonys' home on Hopespring Drive.
     
    Orange County sheriff's deputies said it's too early to tell if the body is that of Caylee.

    Local 6 News reporter Jessica D'Onofrio confirmed that the remains are likely that of a girl. D'Onofrio said the worker saw the garbage bag, opened it, saw the remains of a child and called 911.

    A skull was found nearby, and there was duct tape in and around the garbage bag, D'Onofrio reported.

    "Deputies did respond to that area, and once we were on the scene, we determined that we do have the remains of a young child. Obviously, our concern is that it's in close proximity to some recent activity in that part of the county, and it's incumbent upon us to determine what we have," said Orange County sheriff's spokesman Jim Solomons, referring to the Casey Anthony case.

    The age and gender of the remains are not known.

    The area of the discovery has been blocked off, and FBI agents, along with sheriff's detectives, are investigating the wooded area.

    Tim Miller, the leader of EquuSearch, a Texas-based group that has performed numerous searches for Caylee's body, said he talked with FBI agents, who told him that they believe the remains belong to Caylee.

    "It would be inappropriate to speculate," Orange County sheriff's Capt. Angelo Nieves said. "Our investigators are on scene, evaluating and processing the situation. It's very early."

    Nieves said that George and Cindy Anthony have been notified about the discovery.

    Caylee's mother, Casey Anthony, 22, remains jailed in her daughter's disappearance.

    Pretrial Hearing

    Meanwhile, Local 6 has confirmed that a motion for a change of venue has been prepared by Baez, but the motion has not yet been filed.

    A pretrial hearing was held Thursday morning in the first-degree murder case, and Baez waived his client's right to a speedy trial, and the case was moved to the court's March docket. A status hearing was scheduled with a tentative date of Jan. 15. Anthony's trial had been scheduled to begin Jan. 5.

    Anthony did not appear at the hearing.

    Computer Password Code

    Local 6 News continues its investigation into the case as reporter Tony Pipitone deciphers the words and figures Anthony used to communicate with her family from jail.

    In a jailhouse visit in July, Lee Anthony, Casey Anthony's brother, seemingly played the role of family detective, but she did not offer much information until he mentioned computer passwords.

    "Any meaning behind the passwords that would be clues to any of this?" Lee Anthony asked.

    "Yes," Casey Anthony replied.

    "Does that include the MySpace sign-in passwords as well as the computer passwords?" Lee Anthony said.

    "The computer passwords, no. MySpace and Facebook, yes," Casey Anthony said.

    "All right, so there is meaning behind those?" Lee Anthony said.

    "Yes," Casey Anthony said.

    "Password for that is?" Lee Anthony asked.

    "Cays234," Casey Anthony said.

    But less than an hour later, Casey Anthony gave her mother, Cindy Anthony, a different answer.

    "I don't know your MySpace password," Cindy Anthony said.

    "Facebook account (is) timer55 (and the) password is the same as my MySpace," Casey Anthony said.

    "I'll let you elaborate if you want to. If not, it's OK," Lee Anthony said.

    "Move on to something else. We'll cover that by other means," Casey Anthony said.

    The siblings met again in a jailhouse visit three days later, and Casey Anthony communicated with her brother via Baez.

    "Do you got anything for me outside of what I've already heard?" Lee Anthony said.

    "Did you guys get my messages from Jose?" Casey Anthony asked.

    "Yes," Lee Anthony said.

    "That's where I'm leaving it , so," Casey Anthony said.

    Two days later, on July 30, Cindy Anthony told the FBI that she had figured out her daughter's password code for timer55.

    "She told Lee the other day timer55 means that she has 55 days," Cindy Anthony said.

    "Fifty-five days from when, as Casey now claimed, mystery baby sitter Zenaida Gonzalez and her sister threw her down in Blanchard Park and took Caylee to teach her a lesson," Pipitone said.

    "Fifty-five days to Caylee's birthday, and she said Caylee would be returned on her birthday," Cindy Anthony said.

    Caylee's birthday is Aug. 9, which is 55 days after June 16, the day Casey Anthony was last seen with Caylee.

    "And that, at least according to Cindy, was the code in Casey's password," Pipitone said.

    Mall Video Sought

    Baez is seeking a court order for surveillance video of a reported sighting of Caylee.

    Baez said that a photograph taken by an unidentified shopper with a cell phone camera, showing a girl who resembles Caylee Anthony playing at a Florida mall five months after she was last seen, led to the request.

    The photo was submitted to a tip line in the ongoing search for Caylee.

    Baez wants the Florida Mall in Orlando to turn over all of its surveillance tapes from 2 p.m to 5 p.m. on Nov. 16. In a motion filed Monday, he asked a court to subpoena them. No decision has been made yet.

    Caylee hasn't been seen since mid-June, but Casey Anthony did not report her daughter missing until mid-July. The child's body hasn't been found.

    Baez wants access to the tapes because "in spite of the first-degree murder charges faced by Ms. Anthony, this is still a missing persons case."

    "The inability to act could hinder the prompt and safe recovery of Caylee Marie Anthony," Baez wrote.

    A call to Florida Mall's director of security was directed to the mall manager, who was not immediately available for comment.

    The state's attorney's office did not immediately return a call seeking comment. Prosecutors have routinely declined comment on developments in the case.
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    ORLANDO, Fla. -- A utility worker on Thursday found the skeletal remains of a child in Orange County in a wooded area located less than half a mile from the home of the George and Cindy Anthony, whose 3-year-old granddaughter, Caylee, has been missing since mid-June, authorities said.
     
    The remains, located inside a garbage bag, were discovered by the worker around 9:30 a.m. near South Chickasaw Trail and Suburban Drive, less than four-tenths of a mile from the Anthonys' home on Hopespring Drive.
     
    Orange County sheriff's deputies said it's too early to tell if the body is that of Caylee.

    Local 6 News reporter Jessica D'Onofrio confirmed that the remains are likely that of a girl. D'Onofrio said the worker saw the garbage bag, opened it, saw the remains of a child and called 911.

    A skull was found nearby, and there was duct tape in and around the garbage bag, D'Onofrio reported.

    "Deputies did respond to that area, and once we were on the scene, we determined that we do have the remains of a young child. Obviously, our concern is that it's in close proximity to some recent activity in that part of the county, and it's incumbent upon us to determine what we have," said Orange County sheriff's spokesman Jim Solomons, referring to the Casey Anthony case.

    The age and gender of the remains are not known.

    The area of the discovery has been blocked off, and FBI agents, along with sheriff's detectives, are investigating the wooded area.

    Tim Miller, the leader of EquuSearch, a Texas-based group that has performed numerous searches for Caylee's body, said he talked with FBI agents, who told him that they believe the remains belong to Caylee.

    "It would be inappropriate to speculate," Orange County sheriff's Capt. Angelo Nieves said. "Our investigators are on scene, evaluating and processing the situation. It's very early."

    Nieves said that George and Cindy Anthony have been notified about the discovery.

    Caylee's mother, Casey Anthony, 22, remains jailed in her daughter's disappearance.

    Pretrial Hearing

    Meanwhile, Local 6 has confirmed that a motion for a change of venue has been prepared by Baez, but the motion has not yet been filed.

    A pretrial hearing was held Thursday morning in the first-degree murder case, and Baez waived his client's right to a speedy trial, and the case was moved to the court's March docket. A status hearing was scheduled with a tentative date of Jan. 15. Anthony's trial had been scheduled to begin Jan. 5.

    Anthony did not appear at the hearing.

    Computer Password Code

    Local 6 News continues its investigation into the case as reporter Tony Pipitone deciphers the words and figures Anthony used to communicate with her family from jail.

    In a jailhouse visit in July, Lee Anthony, Casey Anthony's brother, seemingly played the role of family detective, but she did not offer much information until he mentioned computer passwords.

    "Any meaning behind the passwords that would be clues to any of this?" Lee Anthony asked.

    "Yes," Casey Anthony replied.

    "Does that include the MySpace sign-in passwords as well as the computer passwords?" Lee Anthony said.

    "The computer passwords, no. MySpace and Facebook, yes," Casey Anthony said.

    "All right, so there is meaning behind those?" Lee Anthony said.

    "Yes," Casey Anthony said.

    "Password for that is?" Lee Anthony asked.

    "Cays234," Casey Anthony said.

    But less than an hour later, Casey Anthony gave her mother, Cindy Anthony, a different answer.

    "I don't know your MySpace password," Cindy Anthony said.

    "Facebook account (is) timer55 (and the) password is the same as my MySpace," Casey Anthony said.

    "I'll let you elaborate if you want to. If not, it's OK," Lee Anthony said.

    "Move on to something else. We'll cover that by other means," Casey Anthony said.

    The siblings met again in a jailhouse visit three days later, and Casey Anthony communicated with her brother via Baez.

    "Do you got anything for me outside of what I've already heard?" Lee Anthony said.

    "Did you guys get my messages from Jose?" Casey Anthony asked.

    "Yes," Lee Anthony said.

    "That's where I'm leaving it , so," Casey Anthony said.

    Two days later, on July 30, Cindy Anthony told the FBI that she had figured out her daughter's password code for timer55.

    "She told Lee the other day timer55 means that she has 55 days," Cindy Anthony said.

    "Fifty-five days from when, as Casey now claimed, mystery baby sitter Zenaida Gonzalez and her sister threw her down in Blanchard Park and took Caylee to teach her a lesson," Pipitone said.

    "Fifty-five days to Caylee's birthday, and she said Caylee would be returned on her birthday," Cindy Anthony said.

    Caylee's birthday is Aug. 9, which is 55 days after June 16, the day Casey Anthony was last seen with Caylee.

    "And that, at least according to Cindy, was the code in Casey's password," Pipitone said.

    Mall Video Sought

    Baez is seeking a court order for surveillance video of a reported sighting of Caylee.

    Baez said that a photograph taken by an unidentified shopper with a cell phone camera, showing a girl who resembles Caylee Anthony playing at a Florida mall five months after she was last seen, led to the request.

    The photo was submitted to a tip line in the ongoing search for Caylee.

    Baez wants the Florida Mall in Orlando to turn over all of its surveillance tapes from 2 p.m to 5 p.m. on Nov. 16. In a motion filed Monday, he asked a court to subpoena them. No decision has been made yet.

    Caylee hasn't been seen since mid-June, but Casey Anthony did not report her daughter missing until mid-July. The child's body hasn't been found.

    Baez wants access to the tapes because "in spite of the first-degree murder charges faced by Ms. Anthony, this is still a missing persons case."

    "The inability to act could hinder the prompt and safe recovery of Caylee Marie Anthony," Baez wrote.

    A call to Florida Mall's director of security was directed to the mall manager, who was not immediately available for comment.

    The state's attorney's office did not immediately return a call seeking comment. Prosecutors have routinely declined comment on developments in the case.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2008 - 12:59 PM ET #3

    located less than half a mile from the home of the George and Cindy Anthony
     
    Has the body been here the whole time?
    How incompetant were the searchers if they missed this within HALF A MILE of the house?
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    located less than half a mile from the home of the George and Cindy Anthony
     
    Has the body been here the whole time?
    How incompetant were the searchers if they missed this within HALF A MILE of the house?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2008 - 1:03 PM ET #4

    I beat you to this one Joe
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2008 - 1:29 PM ET #5

    They won't fry a young woman like that.   I'm sure she's gonna eventually say it was an accident and she got scared so she buried the body.
     
     
    She'll do serious time but not fry.  
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    They won't fry a young woman like that.   I'm sure she's gonna eventually say it was an accident and she got scared so she buried the body.
     
     
    She'll do serious time but not fry.  
     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2008 - 1:38 PM ET #6

    Depends on cause of death.
    If she has broken hyoid bone...........1st degree
    If she has downers in her system.....2nd degree.
     
    The fact that the police have relesased that Casey was doing internet searches of how to kill a child, how to
    dope up a child, homemade poisens etc won't look good at trial. If Mom has choice of plea deal for life or go to trial and possibly face death, she better take the deal.
    All deals off the table if they have the body, especially if it isn't so degraded that they can get deep tissue samples or hair samples
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    Depends on cause of death.
    If she has broken hyoid bone...........1st degree
    If she has downers in her system.....2nd degree.
     
    The fact that the police have relesased that Casey was doing internet searches of how to kill a child, how to
    dope up a child, homemade poisens etc won't look good at trial. If Mom has choice of plea deal for life or go to trial and possibly face death, she better take the deal.
    All deals off the table if they have the body, especially if it isn't so degraded that they can get deep tissue samples or hair samples
     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2008 - 3:16 PM ET #7

    Reports saying it appears childs mouth was ducttaped
     
    Will be interesting if they can figure out how long body has been there. If it was the whole time, searchers really fouled up.....If it wasn't the whole time, there has to be someone else involved.
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    Reports saying it appears childs mouth was ducttaped
     
    Will be interesting if they can figure out how long body has been there. If it was the whole time, searchers really fouled up.....If it wasn't the whole time, there has to be someone else involved.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2008 - 3:38 PM ET #8

    Anything short of the death penalty would be a miscarriage of justice! 
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    Anything short of the death penalty would be a miscarriage of justice! 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2008 - 5:17 PM ET #9

    I'm hearing the reason the body wasn't discovered earlier was because the area was under water.Obviously more details will follow....
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    I'm hearing the reason the body wasn't discovered earlier was because the area was under water.Obviously more details will follow....
     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2008 - 6:36 PM ET #10

    Who is caylee anthony and why should anyone care?
    not to be a heartless douche but honestly,how does this affect anyones life besides the people in the family?
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    Who is caylee anthony and why should anyone care?
    not to be a heartless douche but honestly,how does this affect anyones life besides the people in the family?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2008 - 7:14 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:

    Who is caylee anthony and why should anyone care?
    not to be a heartless douche but honestly,how does this affect anyones life besides the people in the family?

    You should be outraged. A 3 year old child being murdered by her own mother. Shocked, outraged, sick. You should feel something. If not.........then yes. You are a heartless douche.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:

    Who is caylee anthony and why should anyone care?
    not to be a heartless douche but honestly,how does this affect anyones life besides the people in the family?

    You should be outraged. A 3 year old child being murdered by her own mother. Shocked, outraged, sick. You should feel something. If not.........then yes. You are a heartless douche.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2008 - 10:31 PM ET #12

    Yeah its a shit story but it does not affect my life.  The OJ shit last week did not affect me. I do not care.
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    Yeah its a shit story but it does not affect my life.  The OJ shit last week did not affect me. I do not care.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2008 - 11:45 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:

    Yeah its a shit story but it does not affect my life.  The OJ shit last week did not affect me. I do not care.

    Then why enter the thread and take the time to respond?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:

    Yeah its a shit story but it does not affect my life.  The OJ shit last week did not affect me. I do not care.

    Then why enter the thread and take the time to respond?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2008 - 11:51 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:

    Yeah its a shit story but it does not affect my life.  The OJ shit last week did not affect me. I do not care.

    Your a fucking idiot!! If someone killed you tomorrow it would not affect my life either. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:

    Yeah its a shit story but it does not affect my life.  The OJ shit last week did not affect me. I do not care.

    Your a fucking idiot!! If someone killed you tomorrow it would not affect my life either. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 12:05 AM ET #15

    You sir,are a miserable, putrid, douche-nozzle.
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    You sir,are a miserable, putrid, douche-nozzle.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 12:09 AM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by FrankieNapp:

    You should be outraged. A 3 year old child being murdered by her own mother. Shocked, outraged, sick. You should feel something. If not.........then yes. You are a heartless douche.

    And I take it you are also outraged that about 1,000 3 year olds died in Africa today due to civil war, starvation, and preventable malaria.

    I understand NJDevils point.  You are outraged at this story because you have seen it in the media 100 times over the last several months.  How many other stories just like this do you never hear about?  Are you outraged at those?  Do you investigate to find all of the other 3 year olds killed that you dont hear about? 

    Sorry if this sounds confrontational, its not meant to be, but your outrage sure seems selective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankieNapp:

    You should be outraged. A 3 year old child being murdered by her own mother. Shocked, outraged, sick. You should feel something. If not.........then yes. You are a heartless douche.

    And I take it you are also outraged that about 1,000 3 year olds died in Africa today due to civil war, starvation, and preventable malaria.

    I understand NJDevils point.  You are outraged at this story because you have seen it in the media 100 times over the last several months.  How many other stories just like this do you never hear about?  Are you outraged at those?  Do you investigate to find all of the other 3 year olds killed that you dont hear about? 

    Sorry if this sounds confrontational, its not meant to be, but your outrage sure seems selective.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 12:53 AM ET #17

    Exactly.
    We are told that we are supposed to care about Natalee Holloway, Caylee Anthony, Lacy Peterson etc...... Why ? Because CNN , Fox and MSNBC have 24 hours of news TV time to fill ? Who cares?  Does it affect anyones life? No it does not. Sorry to break it to you but it doesn't. Be pissed off at me all you want but thats the way it is.
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    Exactly.
    We are told that we are supposed to care about Natalee Holloway, Caylee Anthony, Lacy Peterson etc...... Why ? Because CNN , Fox and MSNBC have 24 hours of news TV time to fill ? Who cares?  Does it affect anyones life? No it does not. Sorry to break it to you but it doesn't. Be pissed off at me all you want but thats the way it is.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 1:16 AM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    And I take it you are also outraged that about 1,000 3 year olds died in Africa today due to civil war, starvation, and preventable malaria.

    I understand NJDevils point.  You are outraged at this story because you have seen it in the media 100 times over the last several months.  How many other stories just like this do you never hear about?  Are you outraged at those?  Do you investigate to find all of the other 3 year olds killed that you dont hear about? 

    Sorry if this sounds confrontational, its not meant to be, but your outrage sure seems selective.


    These individual tragedies draw interest, intrigue, and public outrage because they can potentially be "solved" and vengeance can be served.

    The global issues you mention have no readily available solution, so most would rather ignore them than admit the challenge associated with addressing them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    And I take it you are also outraged that about 1,000 3 year olds died in Africa today due to civil war, starvation, and preventable malaria.

    I understand NJDevils point.  You are outraged at this story because you have seen it in the media 100 times over the last several months.  How many other stories just like this do you never hear about?  Are you outraged at those?  Do you investigate to find all of the other 3 year olds killed that you dont hear about? 

    Sorry if this sounds confrontational, its not meant to be, but your outrage sure seems selective.


    These individual tragedies draw interest, intrigue, and public outrage because they can potentially be "solved" and vengeance can be served.

    The global issues you mention have no readily available solution, so most would rather ignore them than admit the challenge associated with addressing them.


     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 3:15 AM ET #19

    It hits home more when you have children imo.

    People with no kids will never understand.
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    People with no kids will never understand.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 7:33 AM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by rdrflyer:

    I'm hearing the reason the body wasn't discovered earlier was because the area was under water.Obviously more details will follow....

    Thanks

    I heard that too AFTER I wondered if search teams were incompetent. Even with that being said Equisearch was there doing some searches, I am sure if they followed normal search protocol, they started the search around the grandparents and Mothers houses, and expanded outward.

    When children are murdered statistically they are either drown or left in water about 80% ( or more ) of the time. I am sure they searched bodies of water with as much diligence as land.

    Question now has to be asked, was body there the whole time?
    If not, then Mom has an accomplice

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdrflyer:

    I'm hearing the reason the body wasn't discovered earlier was because the area was under water.Obviously more details will follow....

    Thanks

    I heard that too AFTER I wondered if search teams were incompetent. Even with that being said Equisearch was there doing some searches, I am sure if they followed normal search protocol, they started the search around the grandparents and Mothers houses, and expanded outward.

    When children are murdered statistically they are either drown or left in water about 80% ( or more ) of the time. I am sure they searched bodies of water with as much diligence as land.

    Question now has to be asked, was body there the whole time?
    If not, then Mom has an accomplice

     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 8:32 AM ET #21

     
    I read stories about animal abuse too. It may not be my animal or one that I know but it still chills me to the bone.
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    I read stories about animal abuse too. It may not be my animal or one that I know but it still chills me to the bone.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 10:22 AM ET #22

    They are awful stories. I just dont see how people can get so caught up in them where they talk about them at work all day and get super outraged about them and analyze them etc.
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    They are awful stories. I just dont see how people can get so caught up in them where they talk about them at work all day and get super outraged about them and analyze them etc.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 10:25 AM ET #23

    In the grand scheme of things which is more important to you as a human being. This story or the Steelers not getting the backdoor cover against the Chargers ( The backward pass - refs Fuck up )
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 10:34 AM ET #24

    If the mother is found to have killed her daughter, she won't receive the death penalty.  Nowadays killers just plead insanity and they are found to be not mentally capable enough to handle a trial so they just sit in jail the rest of their lives.......Which to me is a fucking joke....
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    If the mother is found to have killed her daughter, she won't receive the death penalty.  Nowadays killers just plead insanity and they are found to be not mentally capable enough to handle a trial so they just sit in jail the rest of their lives.......Which to me is a fucking joke....
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 10:44 AM ET #25

    Good luck with that defense. If the child was bound and gagged. Carefully disposed of, death similar to any of the manners the mother googled...
    Good luck showing she wasn't capable of determining right from wrong.
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    Good luck with that defense. If the child was bound and gagged. Carefully disposed of, death similar to any of the manners the mother googled...
    Good luck showing she wasn't capable of determining right from wrong.
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