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    Augusta Maine, sports betting being introduced to Maine legislature

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    Posted: Jan. 15, 2019 - 6:48 AM ET #1

    Maine house and Senate are taking up bills allowing state casinos and Native American tribes to allow sports betting.

    In this week's legislation. 

    Hopefully this can pass.

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    Maine house and Senate are taking up bills allowing state casinos and Native American tribes to allow sports betting.

    In this week's legislation. 

    Hopefully this can pass.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 15, 2019 - 7:10 PM ET #2

    And hopefully you can do this online but I think no college , high school  and there was something else but I can't remember. There's only 2 casino's.

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    And hopefully you can do this online but I think no college , high school  and there was something else but I can't remember. There's only 2 casino's.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2019 - 2:52 PM ET #3

    well the other possible venue is the Maliseet Micmac nation in Aroostook near Presque isle. although the full cascino is on the other side in new Brunswick this side is requesting a gaming liscence, for sports off track harness and bingo. maine law states cascinos have to 100 miles apart. Presque isle has the ability to meet this requiset.

    penn national gaming owns Bangors Hollywood Cascino, Churchill downs owns partial or controlling share of oxford cascino.
    will not play at oxford no player on player or tournament texas hold em allowed only ultimate bet . 
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    well the other possible venue is the Maliseet Micmac nation in Aroostook near Presque isle. although the full cascino is on the other side in new Brunswick this side is requesting a gaming liscence, for sports off track harness and bingo. maine law states cascinos have to 100 miles apart. Presque isle has the ability to meet this requiset.

    penn national gaming owns Bangors Hollywood Cascino, Churchill downs owns partial or controlling share of oxford cascino.
    will not play at oxford no player on player or tournament texas hold em allowed only ultimate bet . 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2019 - 3:01 PM ET #4

    I hope they come through for you nature. Illinois still sitting on their hands. We are bankrupt and no movement at all to legalize sports betting. Head shaker!
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    I hope they come through for you nature. Illinois still sitting on their hands. We are bankrupt and no movement at all to legalize sports betting. Head shaker!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2019 - 3:04 PM ET #5

    In NYS, the Indian casinos don't have to wait for the NY legislature to get off the pot and they procede to make deals of their own.(Oneidas @ turning stone just signed wit Caesers Entertainment and may have a Book by March)
    Do the Maine Indians have to wait for the State of Maine to pass something?? The Indians in NY like to call themselves soverign nations and they like to do as they damn well please.
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    In NYS, the Indian casinos don't have to wait for the NY legislature to get off the pot and they procede to make deals of their own.(Oneidas @ turning stone just signed wit Caesers Entertainment and may have a Book by March)
    Do the Maine Indians have to wait for the State of Maine to pass something?? The Indians in NY like to call themselves soverign nations and they like to do as they damn well please.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2019 - 4:49 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by 666LES:

    In NYS, the Indian casinos don't have to wait for the NY legislature to get off the pot and they procede to make deals of their own.(Oneidas @ turning stone just signed wit Caesers Entertainment and may have a Book by March)Do the Maine Indians have to wait for the State of Maine to pass something?? The Indians in NY like to call themselves soverign nations and they like to do as they damn well please.

     yes Maine land treaties date back to colonial Massachusetts. The Tribes that fought with the colonists were granted land in Maine. the ones who sided with England were granted land by Canada. the problem was our boundary this wasn't founded till 1849 when declared war on England. the land grants that England gave were rescinded as England didn't own that part of Maine. skip ahead to 1980 the native tribes had a 40 plus year law suit against the state for the break in treaties, the state of Maine and the tribes of Maine came to a settlement giving 6 townships to the tribes in exchange the tribes consented to Maine law. 

    this land settlement is why our tribes can not start a casino without state legislature approval and why they do not have a casino where others were granted licenses. hence the possibility for a tribal casino in Aroostook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 666LES:

    In NYS, the Indian casinos don't have to wait for the NY legislature to get off the pot and they procede to make deals of their own.(Oneidas @ turning stone just signed wit Caesers Entertainment and may have a Book by March)Do the Maine Indians have to wait for the State of Maine to pass something?? The Indians in NY like to call themselves soverign nations and they like to do as they damn well please.

     yes Maine land treaties date back to colonial Massachusetts. The Tribes that fought with the colonists were granted land in Maine. the ones who sided with England were granted land by Canada. the problem was our boundary this wasn't founded till 1849 when declared war on England. the land grants that England gave were rescinded as England didn't own that part of Maine. skip ahead to 1980 the native tribes had a 40 plus year law suit against the state for the break in treaties, the state of Maine and the tribes of Maine came to a settlement giving 6 townships to the tribes in exchange the tribes consented to Maine law. 

    this land settlement is why our tribes can not start a casino without state legislature approval and why they do not have a casino where others were granted licenses. hence the possibility for a tribal casino in Aroostook.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2019 - 6:53 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    I hope they come through for you nature. Illinois still sitting on their hands. We are bankrupt and no movement at all to legalize sports betting. Head shaker!

    this poor devil got caught in maine with a book.... a year and a half sentenced 7 days ago.

    https://www.casino.org/news/man-behind-illegal-sports-betting-operation-in-maine-gets-15-months-in-federal-prison

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    I hope they come through for you nature. Illinois still sitting on their hands. We are bankrupt and no movement at all to legalize sports betting. Head shaker!

    this poor devil got caught in maine with a book.... a year and a half sentenced 7 days ago.

    https://www.casino.org/news/man-behind-illegal-sports-betting-operation-in-maine-gets-15-months-in-federal-prison

     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2019 - 6:55 PM ET #8

    Those laws left a big gap in the market, a hole which Mardigan filled quite well, albeit illegally.

    According to court documents, starting in 2003, Mardigan was taking wagers on everything from golf tournaments and car racing, to college and pro football, and everything in between. Bet sizes ranged from $30 to $10,000, and two specific clients were said to have bet more than $4 million through his illicit book.

    Prosecutors that it was the largest gambling operation – legal or otherwise – in the state, although the defendant’s lawyers have argued that the size of the enterprise has been blown out of proportion and don’t account for his losses.

    The 62-year old admitted to running the sports book out of his home, all the while channeling the money through the used car dealership he owned in Portland. He also admitted to laundering his profits through local real estate, buying up some 19 different properties with a combined value of $13 million.

     

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    Those laws left a big gap in the market, a hole which Mardigan filled quite well, albeit illegally.

    According to court documents, starting in 2003, Mardigan was taking wagers on everything from golf tournaments and car racing, to college and pro football, and everything in between. Bet sizes ranged from $30 to $10,000, and two specific clients were said to have bet more than $4 million through his illicit book.

    Prosecutors that it was the largest gambling operation – legal or otherwise – in the state, although the defendant’s lawyers have argued that the size of the enterprise has been blown out of proportion and don’t account for his losses.

    The 62-year old admitted to running the sports book out of his home, all the while channeling the money through the used car dealership he owned in Portland. He also admitted to laundering his profits through local real estate, buying up some 19 different properties with a combined value of $13 million.

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2019 - 6:57 PM ET #9

    n addition to the 15-month sentence, Mardigan must pay back $1.3 million to the IRS, a figure which actually balloons to $3 million after interest.

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    n addition to the 15-month sentence, Mardigan must pay back $1.3 million to the IRS, a figure which actually balloons to $3 million after interest.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2019 - 7:00 PM ET #10

    The American Gaming Association has previously claimed that the underground betting market in the US is worth $150 billion.

    2018 calculations by pegged the figure at closer to $67 billion a year. I am sure the Chicago area has a large share of those figures

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    The American Gaming Association has previously claimed that the underground betting market in the US is worth $150 billion.

    2018 calculations by pegged the figure at closer to $67 billion a year. I am sure the Chicago area has a large share of those figures

     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2019 - 11:47 AM ET #11

    Jackson is sponsoring two bills to regulate online and mobile gaming. Kirby said his legislation would, among other things, prohibit gambling on Maine collegiate teams, minor league teams, high school teams and certain other sporting events.

     

    Whatever law Maine passes would almost certainly include a mechanism to pay for the regulatory system

    Troy Jackson is Senate Majority leader.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD9GAqKX53Y 

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    Jackson is sponsoring two bills to regulate online and mobile gaming. Kirby said his legislation would, among other things, prohibit gambling on Maine collegiate teams, minor league teams, high school teams and certain other sporting events.

     

    Whatever law Maine passes would almost certainly include a mechanism to pay for the regulatory system

    Troy Jackson is Senate Majority leader.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD9GAqKX53Y 

     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2019 - 3:07 PM ET #12

    Mr. Jackson's Maine concern is sustainable wood harvesting most of his focus has been around this issue pm him he is a Facebook friend. The bill hasn't been brought up yet but he will keep me posted. 

    @dark what do you feel of this proposal. 

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    Mr. Jackson's Maine concern is sustainable wood harvesting most of his focus has been around this issue pm him he is a Facebook friend. The bill hasn't been brought up yet but he will keep me posted. 

    @dark what do you feel of this proposal. 

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