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    Absolute TRUTH ABOUT THE OPIOD PROBLEM & HOW TO FIX IT

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    totals4u
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2018 - 10:25 AM ET #1


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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2018 - 10:27 AM ET #2

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    OUTLAW AND STOP STOP MAKING THEM AS WE DID WITH QUALUDES IN 1980 Remember them Google it

    Big Pharma spent 106 Million Lobbying congress including $100,000 to Marino and $177,00 to Hatch

    Lobbying is haring people to pay off Congressman with cash and travel to get them to not pass law that hurts their business

    Same deal with big Tabacco

    3 Times more Deaths than Vietnam and they could give Sh**

    It's all about the Dollar

    Anything less than turning off the pill machine today as tey did with Qualudues is a bullshi** excuse

    It's all about the dollar

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    OUTLAW AND STOP STOP MAKING THEM AS WE DID WITH QUALUDES IN 1980 Remember them Google it

    Big Pharma spent 106 Million Lobbying congress including $100,000 to Marino and $177,00 to Hatch

    Lobbying is haring people to pay off Congressman with cash and travel to get them to not pass law that hurts their business

    Same deal with big Tabacco

    3 Times more Deaths than Vietnam and they could give Sh**

    It's all about the Dollar

    Anything less than turning off the pill machine today as tey did with Qualudues is a bullshi** excuse

    It's all about the dollar

     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2018 - 2:55 PM ET #4


    Corporate Fukks™
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    Corporate Fukks™
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2018 - 9:18 AM ET #5

    Opiod epidemic created by government and hospitals by their satisfaction surveys

    actually. This was also tied into reimbursement by insurance companies if 

    patient customers were happier with their hospital stay and physician experience.

    One of the measures was are you in pain and were you helped with your pain?

    Dr's would ask patients about pain and who doesn't like a little more oxy as it is, lets be honest?!

    In time patient addicts just kept working their doc here and it spiraled into what it has become! 

    Craziest f-ing thing! I work in healthcare and can promise you this is how 90% of it started!

    Very said but all came from the government and insurers and all about $$$!

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    Opiod epidemic created by government and hospitals by their satisfaction surveys

    actually. This was also tied into reimbursement by insurance companies if 

    patient customers were happier with their hospital stay and physician experience.

    One of the measures was are you in pain and were you helped with your pain?

    Dr's would ask patients about pain and who doesn't like a little more oxy as it is, lets be honest?!

    In time patient addicts just kept working their doc here and it spiraled into what it has become! 

    Craziest f-ing thing! I work in healthcare and can promise you this is how 90% of it started!

    Very said but all came from the government and insurers and all about $$$!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2018 - 10:09 AM ET #6

    stopping the actual addiction can be accomplished thru psilocybin.  It’s the active molecule in magic mushrooms.  It will address meth, heroine, cocaine, opioid, depression, even pornography.  If you or a loved one has fallen into the trappings of addiction, research it, and ultimately be set free.  There is a wealth of information, but a personal favorite is the Joe Rogan / Michael Pollan podcast.  

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    stopping the actual addiction can be accomplished thru psilocybin.  It’s the active molecule in magic mushrooms.  It will address meth, heroine, cocaine, opioid, depression, even pornography.  If you or a loved one has fallen into the trappings of addiction, research it, and ultimately be set free.  There is a wealth of information, but a personal favorite is the Joe Rogan / Michael Pollan podcast.  

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2018 - 9:21 PM ET #7

    Here's an idea, don't do drugs.  
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    Here's an idea, don't do drugs.  
     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2018 - 12:15 PM ET #8

    If your population is using the drug your prisons filled to capacity with people who use drugs illegally than legalize it. Stop the endless stupidity the government of the people if the majority of its citizens are using drugs illegally than make them legal and decriminalize them. 

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    If your population is using the drug your prisons filled to capacity with people who use drugs illegally than legalize it. Stop the endless stupidity the government of the people if the majority of its citizens are using drugs illegally than make them legal and decriminalize them. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2018 - 3:15 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by MIZUNO22:

    stopping the actual addiction can be accomplished thru psilocybin.  It’s the active molecule in magic mushrooms.  It will address meth, heroine, cocaine, opioid, depression, even pornography.  If you or a loved one has fallen into the trappings of addiction, research it, and ultimately be set free.  There is a wealth of information, but a personal favorite is the Joe Rogan / Michael Pollan podcast.

    ==============================================================

    You have to TURN OF THE PILL MACHINE THAT MAKES THEM

    AS THEY DID WITH QUALUDES

    That's the beginning, the middle and the end of it PERIOD!!!

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by MIZUNO22:

    stopping the actual addiction can be accomplished thru psilocybin.  It’s the active molecule in magic mushrooms.  It will address meth, heroine, cocaine, opioid, depression, even pornography.  If you or a loved one has fallen into the trappings of addiction, research it, and ultimately be set free.  There is a wealth of information, but a personal favorite is the Joe Rogan / Michael Pollan podcast.

    ==============================================================

    You have to TURN OF THE PILL MACHINE THAT MAKES THEM

    AS THEY DID WITH QUALUDES

    That's the beginning, the middle and the end of it PERIOD!!!

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2018 - 8:12 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by Jet_Mutley:

    Here's an idea, don't do drugs.  


    I wanna party with you man!!! 
    ~~~~~ZOSO~~~~~
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet_Mutley:

    Here's an idea, don't do drugs.  


    I wanna party with you man!!! 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2018 - 8:24 PM ET #11


    Had oral surgery this week and BEFORE the procedure even began I informed the doctor that "Tylenol" wasn't going to cut it, I WANT MY OPIODS!!!

    Get this sh!t nipped in the bud and there won't be any problems.

    Don't know why people keep letting Politicians decide what you should or should not do.  It's YOUR body and YOUR decision.  So because a bunch of people can't handle THEIR addiction I am supposed to "do without"???

    FTS!!! 

     

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    Had oral surgery this week and BEFORE the procedure even began I informed the doctor that "Tylenol" wasn't going to cut it, I WANT MY OPIODS!!!

    Get this sh!t nipped in the bud and there won't be any problems.

    Don't know why people keep letting Politicians decide what you should or should not do.  It's YOUR body and YOUR decision.  So because a bunch of people can't handle THEIR addiction I am supposed to "do without"???

    FTS!!! 

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2018 - 9:48 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by totals4u:

    Quote Originally Posted by MIZUNO22:

    stopping the actual addiction can be accomplished thru psilocybin.  It’s the active molecule in magic mushrooms.  It will address meth, heroine, cocaine, opioid, depression, even pornography.  If you or a loved one has fallen into the trappings of addiction, research it, and ultimately be set free.  There is a wealth of information, but a personal favorite is the Joe Rogan / Michael Pollan podcast.
    ============================================================== You have to TURN OF THE PILL MACHINE THAT MAKES THEM AS THEY DID WITH QUALUDES That's the beginning, the middle and the end of it PERIOD!!!

     

    The fentanyl all over the streets of Baltimore, Philly, etc. is has nothing to do with the "Pill Machine".  This is being manufactured in Chinese labs and smuggled through Mexico.   Quaalude's are totally different and nobody was manufacturing tons of that sh*t in Chinese labs.  Xanax is the new Quaalude's anyway.  You will never stop people that wanna get high so legalize it and regulate it.  That's the only way you will "stop" the war on drugs, countless deaths, over populated prisons, etc, etc.  Take the money from regulation and use that for more treatment programs for people that want to stop since nobody ever will unless they want to anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by totals4u:

    Quote Originally Posted by MIZUNO22:

    stopping the actual addiction can be accomplished thru psilocybin.  It’s the active molecule in magic mushrooms.  It will address meth, heroine, cocaine, opioid, depression, even pornography.  If you or a loved one has fallen into the trappings of addiction, research it, and ultimately be set free.  There is a wealth of information, but a personal favorite is the Joe Rogan / Michael Pollan podcast.
    ============================================================== You have to TURN OF THE PILL MACHINE THAT MAKES THEM AS THEY DID WITH QUALUDES That's the beginning, the middle and the end of it PERIOD!!!

     

    The fentanyl all over the streets of Baltimore, Philly, etc. is has nothing to do with the "Pill Machine".  This is being manufactured in Chinese labs and smuggled through Mexico.   Quaalude's are totally different and nobody was manufacturing tons of that sh*t in Chinese labs.  Xanax is the new Quaalude's anyway.  You will never stop people that wanna get high so legalize it and regulate it.  That's the only way you will "stop" the war on drugs, countless deaths, over populated prisons, etc, etc.  Take the money from regulation and use that for more treatment programs for people that want to stop since nobody ever will unless they want to anyway.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2018 - 12:12 PM ET #13

    Ok maybe we walk through this from a different angle. 

    If we deem substance use as a disease. 

    WHY are we caring for the patients with a penal system do we send our sick and infirmed to Prison systems.  

    Decriminalize  being with a disease. 

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    Ok maybe we walk through this from a different angle. 

    If we deem substance use as a disease. 

    WHY are we caring for the patients with a penal system do we send our sick and infirmed to Prison systems.  

    Decriminalize  being with a disease. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2018 - 9:53 AM ET #14

    Almost died a few times because of them. No one else’s fault but mine. Don’t even start them it’ll suck you in .... I know it all too well. 
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    Almost died a few times because of them. No one else’s fault but mine. Don’t even start them it’ll suck you in .... I know it all too well. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2018 - 10:58 AM ET #15

    Finally stop believing the propaganda. 

    We produce most of the drugs we use.

    Yes the federal government LIES.  We here in the United States grow our own popi p coca and majuana plants we manufature our meth and pharmaceutical industry makes the rest.

    But we must make this into some where some how in a far far eastern land they make our opiods.Not that popi plants grow world wide. Not that coca plants can not grow in green house. Nor can anyone any where a grow weed. No somewhere in Afghanistan they are making our heroin some villain from bond series is making cocaine in a hidden jungle compound near argentina.some Mexican is methamphetamine and smuggling it in some night time raid of the South west.

    NNews flash we make most of the drugs we take..... that is right we make most of the drugs we ingest. i

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    Finally stop believing the propaganda. 

    We produce most of the drugs we use.

    Yes the federal government LIES.  We here in the United States grow our own popi p coca and majuana plants we manufature our meth and pharmaceutical industry makes the rest.

    But we must make this into some where some how in a far far eastern land they make our opiods.Not that popi plants grow world wide. Not that coca plants can not grow in green house. Nor can anyone any where a grow weed. No somewhere in Afghanistan they are making our heroin some villain from bond series is making cocaine in a hidden jungle compound near argentina.some Mexican is methamphetamine and smuggling it in some night time raid of the South west.

    NNews flash we make most of the drugs we take..... that is right we make most of the drugs we ingest. i

     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2018 - 12:16 PM ET #16

    Gets to a point not so long ago the FIB busted the DEA buying drugs from the VIA in Washington dc.  Four agents were shot everyone in the room was a federal agent. 

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    Gets to a point not so long ago the FIB busted the DEA buying drugs from the VIA in Washington dc.  Four agents were shot everyone in the room was a federal agent. 

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