Cryptocurrency is the Wild wild west right now. We are not even close to being at a mature product.
I don't want to sound high and mighty as I'm average in terms of worldwide knowledge in Cryptocurrency or Bitcoin( 1 of 100's of very actively discussed Cryptocurrency's, of course largest by Market Capitilization (48% of market approximately)).
With Crypto you need to understand that with your Crypto you actually own it, and become your own bank. You don't have protection from any third party.
You can trust others with your Crypto but whether that's an exchange or Web merchant, you need to get in writing that a deposit went through at set price. (Not with well established top rated exchanges for most part) but yes with merchants like 5d that only somewhat use Crypto and 90% or 95% users on that merchant don't even use that option.
Normal complaint exposure medium recourse isn't as effective since your problem isn't resonating with enough 5d users as well as when people without established credit, which you aren't -of course you are well respected posting member but if you were more unknown people might be quick to think "Bitcoin works for me this guy probably fucked up and 5d probably has a second side of the story."
Then with this paper trail you need to threaten to expose them on relavent community recourse places such as Covers but also on Crypto or Bitcoin related consumer feedback places.
Covers is amazing but it is definitely not a Crypto website.
Again, I definitely know my limitations in this field as they are many, I don't even use Crypto for sports gambling, I am very beginner to intermediate but read people more advanced on this all. Remember this is a very new sector.
Cryptocurrency is the Wild wild west right now. We are not even close to being at a mature product.
I don't want to sound high and mighty as I'm average in terms of worldwide knowledge in Cryptocurrency or Bitcoin( 1 of 100's of very actively discussed Cryptocurrency's, of course largest by Market Capitilization (48% of market approximately)).
With Crypto you need to understand that with your Crypto you actually own it, and become your own bank. You don't have protection from any third party.
You can trust others with your Crypto but whether that's an exchange or Web merchant, you need to get in writing that a deposit went through at set price. (Not with well established top rated exchanges for most part) but yes with merchants like 5d that only somewhat use Crypto and 90% or 95% users on that merchant don't even use that option.
Normal complaint exposure medium recourse isn't as effective since your problem isn't resonating with enough 5d users as well as when people without established credit, which you aren't -of course you are well respected posting member but if you were more unknown people might be quick to think "Bitcoin works for me this guy probably fucked up and 5d probably has a second side of the story."
Then with this paper trail you need to threaten to expose them on relavent community recourse places such as Covers but also on Crypto or Bitcoin related consumer feedback places.
Covers is amazing but it is definitely not a Crypto website.
Again, I definitely know my limitations in this field as they are many, I don't even use Crypto for sports gambling, I am very beginner to intermediate but read people more advanced on this all. Remember this is a very new sector.
PS man really only meant this as a warning for everyone, not you specifically, there is a great chance you are more fluent with Bitcoin then myself as I only really use Bitcoin a little and mostly use Bitcoin Cash(imho the real Bitcoin not what I and many others refer to as Segwitcoin- which doesn't follow the original whitepaper at all as greatly discussed by Dr. Peter Rizun back in July 2017 before the split of the two parties even took place on August 1st)
If you owned Bitcoin on August 1st,207 and didn't receive your equal BCH(Bitcoin Cash) then someone else took it from you as that moment you were supposed to own both. I know exchanges gave people there Bitcoin Cash but not sure if any particular merchant did. Bitcoin Cash are worth 400$ US currently and have been as high as 800 or so.
In closing was just trying to put this info out there to anyone that could be less informed then you or myself and may just be starting in this but not realize all the implications since this is all very new and VERY complicated.
I personally hold my own Crypto but also understand there is a risk I messed up and never really feel 100% certain that I bought all of mine correctly, even with expert email corespondance with a moderator of an extremely large Crypto discussion space nicely walking me through steps.
Things such as booting linux off USB and working offline and checking downloaded files with Kleopatra/hash analysis tools and checking PGP signatures to see who file was signed by.
After all of this I will say I am not wealthy man but I think we can all agree if you are putting your hard earned money anywhere in large amounts to oneself relatively you are worried regardless of your steps.
Don't use Crypto for amounts you can't lose unless you consider some of these things.
Again, as a new account this month I don't mean to appear as lecturing a community of course. I feel more at home since I've reading since 2000 and have been to covers office in 2002 as a friend of employee. So generally like to post alot of information as I'm passionate about some subjects but don't want to always be bumping my thought to top of page just can't help the way they sort their forum (really should have different options at least for sorting). At least a check this box if you don't want to bump the thread but just want others to see that are reading that thread anyway.
PS man really only meant this as a warning for everyone, not you specifically, there is a great chance you are more fluent with Bitcoin then myself as I only really use Bitcoin a little and mostly use Bitcoin Cash(imho the real Bitcoin not what I and many others refer to as Segwitcoin- which doesn't follow the original whitepaper at all as greatly discussed by Dr. Peter Rizun back in July 2017 before the split of the two parties even took place on August 1st)
If you owned Bitcoin on August 1st,207 and didn't receive your equal BCH(Bitcoin Cash) then someone else took it from you as that moment you were supposed to own both. I know exchanges gave people there Bitcoin Cash but not sure if any particular merchant did. Bitcoin Cash are worth 400$ US currently and have been as high as 800 or so.
In closing was just trying to put this info out there to anyone that could be less informed then you or myself and may just be starting in this but not realize all the implications since this is all very new and VERY complicated.
I personally hold my own Crypto but also understand there is a risk I messed up and never really feel 100% certain that I bought all of mine correctly, even with expert email corespondance with a moderator of an extremely large Crypto discussion space nicely walking me through steps.
Things such as booting linux off USB and working offline and checking downloaded files with Kleopatra/hash analysis tools and checking PGP signatures to see who file was signed by.
After all of this I will say I am not wealthy man but I think we can all agree if you are putting your hard earned money anywhere in large amounts to oneself relatively you are worried regardless of your steps.
Don't use Crypto for amounts you can't lose unless you consider some of these things.
Again, as a new account this month I don't mean to appear as lecturing a community of course. I feel more at home since I've reading since 2000 and have been to covers office in 2002 as a friend of employee. So generally like to post alot of information as I'm passionate about some subjects but don't want to always be bumping my thought to top of page just can't help the way they sort their forum (really should have different options at least for sorting). At least a check this box if you don't want to bump the thread but just want others to see that are reading that thread anyway.
Cryptocurrency is the Wild wild west right now. We are not even close to being at a mature product.
I don't want to sound high and mighty as I'm average in terms of worldwide knowledge in Cryptocurrency or Bitcoin( 1 of 100's of very actively discussed Cryptocurrency's, of course largest by Market Capitilization (48% of market approximately)).
With Crypto you need to understand that with your Crypto you actually own it, and become your own bank. You don't have protection from any third party.
You can trust others with your Crypto but whether that's an exchange or Web merchant, you need to get in writing that a deposit went through at set price. (Not with well established top rated exchanges for most part) but yes with merchants like 5d that only somewhat use Crypto and 90% or 95% users on that merchant don't even use that option.
Normal complaint exposure medium recourse isn't as effective since your problem isn't resonating with enough 5d users as well as when people without established credit, which you aren't -of course you are well respected posting member but if you were more unknown people might be quick to think "Bitcoin works for me this guy probably fucked up and 5d probably has a second side of the story."
Then with this paper trail you need to threaten to expose them on relavent community recourse places such as Covers but also on Crypto or Bitcoin related consumer feedback places.
Covers is amazing but it is definitely not a Crypto website.
Again, I definitely know my limitations in this field as they are many, I don't even use Crypto for sports gambling, I am very beginner to intermediate but read people more advanced on this all. Remember this is a very new sector.
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Cryptocurrency is the Wild wild west right now. We are not even close to being at a mature product.
I don't want to sound high and mighty as I'm average in terms of worldwide knowledge in Cryptocurrency or Bitcoin( 1 of 100's of very actively discussed Cryptocurrency's, of course largest by Market Capitilization (48% of market approximately)).
With Crypto you need to understand that with your Crypto you actually own it, and become your own bank. You don't have protection from any third party.
You can trust others with your Crypto but whether that's an exchange or Web merchant, you need to get in writing that a deposit went through at set price. (Not with well established top rated exchanges for most part) but yes with merchants like 5d that only somewhat use Crypto and 90% or 95% users on that merchant don't even use that option.
Normal complaint exposure medium recourse isn't as effective since your problem isn't resonating with enough 5d users as well as when people without established credit, which you aren't -of course you are well respected posting member but if you were more unknown people might be quick to think "Bitcoin works for me this guy probably fucked up and 5d probably has a second side of the story."
Then with this paper trail you need to threaten to expose them on relavent community recourse places such as Covers but also on Crypto or Bitcoin related consumer feedback places.
Covers is amazing but it is definitely not a Crypto website.
Again, I definitely know my limitations in this field as they are many, I don't even use Crypto for sports gambling, I am very beginner to intermediate but read people more advanced on this all. Remember this is a very new sector.
Did you get resolution? They just did the same thing to me. Took away over $400 from my account and blamed it on an IT issue. They took over $1,500 from me a month ago claiming it was losses, which was false. Even though I have been with them for a long time, this may be the straw that broke the camel's back.
Did you get resolution? They just did the same thing to me. Took away over $400 from my account and blamed it on an IT issue. They took over $1,500 from me a month ago claiming it was losses, which was false. Even though I have been with them for a long time, this may be the straw that broke the camel's back.
I just cashed out and should have done it years ago considering I have two other books that are better. They gave me the same excuse as they did before that they double paid me on wagers.
I just cashed out and should have done it years ago considering I have two other books that are better. They gave me the same excuse as they did before that they double paid me on wagers.
Little rusty on Cryptocurrency at the moment but know that Bitcoin is going through some major news coming about a possible (hard?) Fork that may or may not occur sometime soon. Similar to the one on August 1st but for different reasons? Maybe someone else can explain it since I'm running on kind of outdated news, been off the computer and trying to follow a few different Crypto's?
Little rusty on Cryptocurrency at the moment but know that Bitcoin is going through some major news coming about a possible (hard?) Fork that may or may not occur sometime soon. Similar to the one on August 1st but for different reasons? Maybe someone else can explain it since I'm running on kind of outdated news, been off the computer and trying to follow a few different Crypto's?
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