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Winston vs Mariota? Nah....This will be decided by FSUs defense. Crazy, I know. Last I checked, FSU hasnt lost since Clinton was president.....

Ohio St is a very dangerous team right now.....they are clicking and NOBODY thinks a) they deserve to be there b) they can beat Bama


 OSU +2 ??


 
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Didn't you mean Ohio State vs Oregon line?    

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hahahaha, I like Ohio St to win it all too

thoughts on the lines this week, I think Oregon -12 and
Ala -4, but i could be way off
 
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Bama will crush Ohio State just like the Notre Dame game a few years back. Oregon should beat FSU.

 

 
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My man!!! Love the prediction! Go Bucks!
 
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I'm betting that both favorites cover easily ... 
 
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It's of my opinion that the first year of this new system will be a fail.

Wouldn't surprise me at all to see both games decided by 21+.

One thing is true, FSU got very, very lucky, as I like their chances against Oregon much more than Bama.

Either way, I think TCU is a much, much, much more deserving team than FSU, and would, without a doubt, make a better opponent for either team.
 
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Both games will be blowouts. Committee wants Bama vs. Oregon National Championship and they will get it. Everyone's asking why did Ohio St get in? Why did FSU get in? They got in because neither team posses a threat to Bama or Oregon.
 
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If the Bama line dips to 9.5, these two games have 2 team +7 teaser written all over them. Bama -2.5 and Oregon -2.5
 
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Quote Originally Posted by axel360:

If the Bama line dips to 9.5, these two games have 2 team +7 teaser written all over them. Bama -2.5 and Oregon -2.5


I will be absolutely stunned if this line were to move anywhere but north of -10.


 
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Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

 
Ohio St is a very dangerous team right now.....they are clicking and NOBODY thinks a) they deserve to be there b) they can beat Bama


 
 
I'm one of them.  I agree that Florida State will beat Oregon, but Ohio State really doesn't have much of a shot of hanging with Alabama with their 3rd string QB.  Yeah, Ohio State is clicking on all cylinders in the extraordinarily weak Big 10, but we'll see quite a few cylinders misfiring when they play Alabama.
 
This is absolutely an ideal match-up for Alabama, and we should see a result similar to what we saw in the Notre Dame/Alabama game.
 
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:

 
I'm one of them.  I agree that Florida State will beat Oregon, but Ohio State really doesn't have much of a shot of hanging with Alabama with their 3rd string QB.  Yeah, Ohio State is clicking on all cylinders in the extraordinarily weak Big 10, but we'll see quite a few cylinders misfiring when they play Alabama.
 
This is absolutely an ideal match-up for Alabama, and we should see a result similar to what we saw in the Notre Dame/Alabama game.
 
 

Bama isnt near the squad they were vs ND, especially on defense. Also, OSU has a better squad than ND had....

Also, Mizzou had a Gary Pinkel handicap. They never show up in big games. never. Urban Meyer has coached and won big games. Now, he has a month for the qb to get some reps. If the defense can step up, I'm fairly confident OSU can expose the Bama secondary.

They toughest games/teams that Bama faced are comparable (No, I'm not saying identical or even better than) to Ohio St....WV, Arkansas,LSU,Auburn, Ole Miss and Miss St...They lost to Ole Miss and won the other 5 by an average of just under 7 points....

Sure, Bama can blow them out....and thats what 80% of bettors will think. However, they wont just be able to show up and win. Like I said, the best thing that can happen for a underdog is to be doubted and discounted.....

 

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Cant see Florida State beating Oregon.  If FSU can force Oregon to kick FGs and create long yardage 3 and 4th downs for the Ducks they most certainly up their chances to prevail.  Mariota also has to turn the ball over which he simply DOES NOT do.  If it becomes a game of matching TDs IMO FSU loses by two scores or more because of Winston trying to create plays resulting in turnovers. 

The Alabama/OSU I am uncertain of.  I could see Bama winning sparingly or OSU winning by 7-10 points because Sims sh*t the bed.  

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Do they have a consolation game this year?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus10:

 

One thing is true, FSU got very, very lucky, as I like their chances against Oregon much more than Bama.



This site has some of the best power ranking charts, and I love to use them to get better perspective on teams... they rank teams in a ton of different ways, including:  "predictive" (i.e. general performance rating), home/away, strength of schedule, last 5, last 10, etc.... 

In only one of their sets of rankings is FSU listed anywhere near the top, and in that set, they are undisputed #1:

https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/luck-by-other
 
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FSU will run out of luck against Oregon, and lose.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus10:

It's of my opinion that the first year of this new system will be a fail.Wouldn't surprise me at all to see both games decided by 21+.One thing is true, FSU got very, very lucky, as I like their chances against Oregon much more than Bama.Either way, I think TCU is a much, much, much more deserving team than FSU, and would, without a doubt, make a better opponent for either team.

You think a team that didn't win it's conference, and almost lost to Kansas is much much much more deserving than the defending national champs that hasn't lost a game yet? That is fascinating. Please explain.
 
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Some people don't get how hard it is to do what FSU has done. I'm not gonna go into every reason, but to win 29 games in a row is DAMN TOUGH! I guess I'm old school, when i say until you beat the defending champs, they should have a shot to defend.. 

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Can't believe the line was set at 10 but the weakest part of bama is the secondary and if you were to fade a 3rd stringer you'd do it vs bama because theoretically, he won't be able to take advantage of the tides one true weakness

however, Ohio State has the best offensive and defensive lines in the entire country and they might actually have an advantage in the trenches. They've absolutely beat up some really good teams in the Big Ten, and the big ten could have a breakout campaign in the bowls

for example, I won't be surprised at all if Minnesota wins BIG over Missouri and Michigan State wins BIG over Baylor. Those are two really really good teams that Ohio State handled.

If you start seeing the Big Ten winning handily you might have to rethink your position on that bama game, right now it's comparing apples to oranges

Florida State has a good shot vs Oregon, can't believe the total is only 65, neither team will play it close to the vest and there are two heisman winners under center. Game is a tossup.

Whoever wins the Ohio State Bama game crushes in the final game imo
 
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Quote Originally Posted by URZ262:

Can't believe the line was set at 10 but the weakest part of bama is the secondary and if you were to fade a 3rd stringer you'd do it vs bama because theoretically, he won't be able to take advantage of the tides one true weakness

however, Ohio State has the best offensive and defensive lines in the entire country and they might actually have an advantage in the trenches. They've absolutely beat up some really good teams in the Big Ten, and the big ten could have a breakout campaign in the bowls

for example, I won't be surprised at all if Minnesota wins BIG over Missouri and Michigan State wins BIG over Baylor. Those are two really really good teams that Ohio State handled.

If you start seeing the Big Ten winning handily you might have to rethink your position on that bama game, right now it's comparing apples to oranges

Florida State has a good shot vs Oregon, can't believe the total is only 65, neither team will play it close to the vest and there are two heisman winners under center. Game is a tossup.

Whoever wins the Ohio State Bama game crushes in the final game imo

This season's Big 10 might be the worst conference in college football history.  They were the butt of jokes all season until the media had to sell the public on Ohio State being the 4th best team in the country.

The Big 10 has two good teams in the entire conference: Ohio State and Michigan State.  The rest of the conference is abysmal.

 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

Bama isnt near the squad they were vs ND, especially on defense. Also, OSU has a better squad than ND had....

Also, Mizzou had a Gary Pinkel handicap. They never show up in big games. never. Urban Meyer has coached and won big games. Now, he has a month for the qb to get some reps. If the defense can step up, I'm fairly confident OSU can expose the Bama secondary.

They toughest games/teams that Bama faced are comparable (No, I'm not saying identical or even better than) to Ohio St....WV, Arkansas,LSU,Auburn, Ole Miss and Miss St...They lost to Ole Miss and won the other 5 by an average of just under 7 points....

Sure, Bama can blow them out....and thats what 80% of bettors will think. However, they wont just be able to show up and win. Like I said, the best thing that can happen for a underdog is to be doubted and discounted.....

 

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This Alabama team is better than the 2012 team in almost every facet of the game except offensive line and pass coverage.  To say that they aren't nearly as good because they had a lot of close conference games is completely without merit.

In 2012 Mississippi, Mississippi State, Arkansas and Auburn were terrible.  Auburn was 3 & 9 on the season and 0 & 8 in the conference.  Now 3 out of 4 of those teams are top-10 caliber, and the remaining three 3 teams in the division are top 25-caliber teams.

To assert that Ohio State's schedule (who played in probably the weakest major conference in college football history) is on par with Alabama's schedule (who played in what many pundits described as the greatest division in college football history) is so patently absurd I can't believe I'm taking the time to type out a response.  Ohio State played one good team the entire season - Michigan State - and Michigan State would battle Arkansas for last place in the SEC West.  The only two teams Michigan State would have much of a shot of beating in the SEC West is Texas A&M and Arkansas.

I suppose we could really stretch credulity and call Cincinnati and Wisconsin "good teams," but neither team would beat anyone in the SEC West.

Despite Ohio State's completely laughable schedule, I do agree that they are better than the 2012 Notre Dame team, but because of the vast disparity in schedules, Ohio State will still experience the same culture shock that Notre Dame did in 2012.  Alabama has faced 3 or 4 teams that are as good or better than Ohio State.  Conversely, Ohio State hasn't faced a team this season that is even in the same universe as Alabama.  Ohio State has not played against it, and can't practice against it.  The first time they will experience it is when the game kicks off, and that will be way too late.

As I said two years ago about Notre Dame, and the same dynamic applies to Ohio State this season, unless they are scrimmaging the Chicago Bears in their practices leading up to the bowl game, they won't be prepared for Alabama's size, speed, athleticism and intensity.

So unless Alabama implodes, there really isn't much reason to believe this will be a very competitive game.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

 
 OSU +2 ??

It looks like you were mainly interested in riling up the peanut gallery, but, on the off chance anyone actually looked at this thread for an answer to the question in the title...

  The current line on this hypothetical game is OSU+3. 

Obviously, that could change based on what happens in the semifinal games.  Why anyone would lock in this price now is beyond me, since you can get 15:1 for predicting that the game takes place at all.  Nevertheless, the bet is available if you really want it.
 
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Bama vs My Noles for the title
Say what you want about the Ducks but the Pac 12 does not impress me. Boston College beat USC which is probably the most talented team top to bottom in the Pac 12, Viriigna had UCLA beat and blew it. By the way these teams all lost to FSU. Look at what Mariota has had to face from a defensive standpoint, NOT ALL that impressive. Now look at what Winstion and FSU's offensive has had to face from a defensive standpoint. Say what you want about FSU's schedule but they have had to face MUCH MUCH tougher defenses then Oregon!!!.
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Pass Defense:
#7 Stanford
#86 UCLA
#91 Oregon St
#99 Colorado
#100 Oregon
#103 Arizona St
#107 Southern Cal
#118 Arizona
#121 Washington
#122 Washington St
#125 Cal

Now Winston has had to face this in total Defense!!!
 TOTAL Defensive Ranking updated Dec. 6th 2014
1. Clemson
4. Florida
6. Louisville
11. Boston College
13. miami
27. Syracuse
28. UVA
38. Wake Forest
46. NCSU
70. Notre Dame
89. GT
94. Okie State
102. Oregon

Btw the Ducks rank 80th in total D!!! and The Ducks Dline will be the SMALLEST FSU has had to face all year and our Dline will be one of the biggest and most Physical Dlines the Ducks have had to face all year.

GO NOLES!!!!!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by poppingbands17:

Bama vs My Noles for the title
Say what you want about the Ducks but the Pac 12 does not impress me. Boston College beat USC which is probably the most talented team top to bottom in the Pac 12, Viriigna had UCLA beat and blew it. By the way these teams all lost to FSU. Look at what Mariota has had to face from a defensive standpoint, NOT ALL that impressive. Now look at what Winstion and FSU's offensive has had to face from a defensive standpoint. Say what you want about FSU's schedule but they have had to face MUCH MUCH tougher defenses then Oregon!!!.
Currently
Pass Defense:
#7 Stanford
#86 UCLA
#91 Oregon St
#99 Colorado
#100 Oregon
#103 Arizona St
#107 Southern Cal
#118 Arizona
#121 Washington
#122 Washington St
#125 Cal

Now Winston has had to face this in total Defense!!!
 TOTAL Defensive Ranking updated Dec. 6th 2014
1. Clemson
4. Florida
6. Louisville
11. Boston College
13. miami
27. Syracuse
28. UVA
38. Wake Forest
46. NCSU
70. Notre Dame
89. GT
94. Okie State
102. Oregon

Btw the Ducks rank 80th in total D!!! and The Ducks Dline will be the SMALLEST FSU has had to face all year and our Dline will be one of the biggest and most Physical Dlines the Ducks have had to face all year.

GO NOLES!!!!!


Some people really need to realize the strength/weakness of their arguments before posting.

You do realize that if these teams were playing in a more competitive conference, that most likely only one or two of those teams would have a top 50 defense.

The ACC has some highly ranked defenses because the offenses are putrid. When you play in a conference with terrible offense, than it's going to make the defenses look much better than they are.

Put those teams in the Pac-12, and suddenly most of them fall out of the top 50.
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by poppingbands17:

Btw the Ducks rank 80th in total D!!! and The Ducks Dline will be the SMALLEST FSU has had to face all year and our Dline will be one of the biggest and most Physical Dlines the Ducks have had to face all year.

GO NOLES!!!!!

I also think that FSU wins this game.  I don't think there is any doubt that Florida State will win in the trenches on both sides of the ball.  The problem is Oregon is a team that is capable of winning on the scoreboard without winning in the trenches.

 

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