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Spot0n

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Posted: Oct. 27, 2013 - 11:13 PM ET #26

Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

Johnny should win the Heisman again. A&M would be a 3 or 4 win team without him. He is definately the MVP of college football. FSU and Oregon both play some defense....Johnny has to literally win games. Is off season stuff is gonna kill his chances of a repeat, but he should get it again (if things keep going good for him)

History says that is very unlikely Johnny wins the Heisman.

Spot0n

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Posted: Oct. 27, 2013 - 11:14 PM ET #27

Does anyone likes Troy -3.5 against UL Monroe?

Cwadda

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Posted: Oct. 27, 2013 - 11:30 PM ET #28

I like your top 5. They just seem to cover all the time. Oregon 7-1 ATS is pretty damn good.

Also, that A&M first quarter.

Oktoberfestlax4

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Posted: Oct. 27, 2013 - 11:48 PM ET #29

Wahoo great week again man congrats. I'll have something for you later in the week if its cool on the Noles vs Canes game. Like you said, I don't know how you can disrespect a team of athletes that destroy albeit an a slightly overrated team in UCLA 28-0 in the 2H, yeah that was not bad lol. Canes also fit that description and while I have realized they are muuch better than in years past, they have no business even being close to the top 5, sorry Canes fans.

I think it really matters on the Dux and if they beat Stanford like I believe they will @ Palo Alto. At that point, it will be very tough for Noles to grab 2 spot with an unranked Gator team @ the moment and a weak coastal ACC team in Charlotte, unless Canes win out they beat em twice. Either way love Mariotta as a gamer and seems like a great kid and either he or Jameis deserve the Heisman when it all settles on the 14th..I need to start getting on more Sundays so I can read your stuff cuz it def helps me and validates a lot of what I watch. BOL man with another great week for you coming no doubt!!

BigShotBill

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Posted: Oct. 27, 2013 - 11:49 PM ET #30

Only game jumping off the page right now is Oregon St -4.5 vs USC. The Trojans were down to 48 scholarship players vs. Utah and Sua Cravens their star frosh safety hurt his groin yesterday. The damn line went from -2 to -4.5 and I haven't played it yet but it looks tempting. The Beavers have always played this team very well.

I see the angle on Tennessee. The time to bet against a top team is always after a devastating loss (ex: Clemson this past week looked so sloppy vs. Maryland). I will have to look into that more. I just don't know if they have enough offense to score but Mizz is having trouble scoring without Franklin.

fence

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Posted: Oct. 28, 2013 - 12:08 AM ET #31

Thanks wahoo for all your insight, won on your info on Oregon game,

and BYU. Keep it up I appreciate all the info. Bol this week!

Quantum_Leap

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Posted: Oct. 28, 2013 - 1:21 AM ET #32

No way in hell USC beats Ore St. Not eveb Pete Carril could .

WahooS

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Posted: Oct. 28, 2013 - 1:21 AM ET #33

Quote Originally Posted by WahooS:

play number 1

Tennessee + 13

if the Tigers can pick themselves up after that debacle then I'll tip my hat

quick look leans

Washington St + 12.5 (ASU nowhere close to the same away from home, may look at Wazzu first half which should be in the 7 range, Cougs may win this straight up)

Auburn - 9.5 (the Hogs have seemingly mailed it in and Aubby gaining steam)

Oregon St. - 4.5 (big prime time slot in Corvalis, opened at 3ish and I misjudged the early movement, will wait and see here)

Kent St. - 1 (liked Buffalo last week, lean Kent this week)

West Virg + 14 (TCU as a home favorite? umm, dog please)

Florida + 2.5 (have no idea why I lean Florida, I must be an idiot)

Arizona - 16 (poor Cal, they are just brutal)

Texas - 28 (Mack needs style points and KU may not score more than 7)

SJSU - 3 (this line should be like 7ish right? wtf? unlv?)

Lafayette - 29 (one team will score, the other won't, bloodbath)

La Mon + 3.5 (just feel like they are the better team)

Rice + 5.5 (had this line at -1 as I would favor Rice on neutral, suprised it keeps going up, not sure what's up here)

these are with zero injury report, research or anything else, got started late for this week, alot of work to do

this is how I get started though, grab my early looks and start working, should be another profitable week

Dr_Duer

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Posted: Oct. 28, 2013 - 1:47 AM ET #34

USC I think has really been a case of overvalued to start the season and then now have been undervalued recently.....they have moved the ball much much better since the first 3 games

I actually think the Trojans have the better lines in this game and should win the trenches matchup, that d has been good outside of Arizona Sate and a key will be front four pressure on Oregon State's qb, as Stanford made this OL protection look suspect

However, I believe Oregon State is much more DYNAMIC and with a weeknight HOME GAME would lean there.....but I see everyone on Oregon State and USC has just as good a resume

USC on all cylinders is kind of like a poor man's stanford

..........I think we have to look at problem's in UGA and look at a team that has downward momentum and issues ......the GATORS should definately dominate the line of scrimmage and keep Murray off of the field, I like the GATORS here as well

WahooS

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Posted: Oct. 28, 2013 - 1:53 AM ET #35

Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Duer:

USC I think has really been a case of overvalued to start the season and then now have been undervalued recently.....they have moved the ball much much better since the first 3 games

However, I believe Oregon State is much more DYNAMIC and with a weeknight HOME GAME would lean there.....but I see everyone on Oregon State and USC has just as good a resume

USC on all cylinders is kind of like a poor man's stanford

I never worry who everyone else is on, only what I'm on

great post, not sure I've seen you posting much before and if I have I don't recall

trojans certainly have better defensive line, possible offensive line but like you said, OSU much more dynamic and at home in the prime slot, everyone gets up to play the trojans, I won't lay 4.5 but if it goes back to 3.5 I'll look at it, may consider first half play on Beavs

GeneCam27

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Posted: Oct. 28, 2013 - 2:11 AM ET #36

Nice Top 5.....

I personally think FSU would mop the floor with Oregon and show them a thing or two at their own game. Really hoping we dont see a BAMA Oregon championship because it will be one sided.

Oregon has the schedule in their favor but I dont see them beating Stanford. Utah and Oregon state won't be pushovers nether.

Wasn't overly impressed with the win over UCLA at home. Jimbo called the dogs off around mid 3rd quarter. They could have dropped NC state 70-0 and look like douches.

UCLA young (but talented) in over their heads still gave oregon some trouble. They would get crushed by a legit crew. Really Disappointed in LSU losing to Ole Miss as I really think they have what it takes to run with BAMA and FSU.

WahooS

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Posted: Oct. 28, 2013 - 2:21 AM ET #37

Gene--

I'd bet a very large amount on Oregon at a PK vs FSU tomorrow so you & I really disagree there, the Noles just couldn't stop them in my opinion, I do think Bama would beat Oregon though, they could simply control clock & run at them

Thanks for the post, hopefully we see Oregon & fsu both make it & then you can poke fun at me if you were right :)

I like Bama & can appreciate greatness but I'd prefer a new champ, fsu or Oregon would be ok with me

Best of luck this week

CalBear2009

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Posted: Oct. 28, 2013 - 2:51 AM ET #38

Quote Originally Posted by WahooS:

quick look leans

Washington St + 12.5 (ASU nowhere close to the same away from home, may look at Wazzu first half which should be in the 7 range, Cougs may win this straight up)

Auburn - 9.5 (the Hogs have seemingly mailed it in and Aubby gaining steam)

Oregon St. - 4.5 (big prime time slot in Corvalis, opened at 3ish and I misjudged the early movement, will wait and see here)

Kent St. - 1 (liked Buffalo last week, lean Kent this week)

West Virg + 14 (TCU as a home favorite? umm, dog please)

Florida + 2.5 (have no idea why I lean Florida, I must be an idiot)

Arizona - 16 (poor Cal, they are just brutal)

Texas - 28 (Mack needs style points and KU may not score more than 7)

SJSU - 3 (this line should be like 7ish right? wtf? unlv?)

Lafayette - 29 (one team will score, the other won't, bloodbath)

La Mon + 3.5 (just feel like they are the better team)

Rice + 5.5 (had this line at -1 as I would favor Rice on neutral, suprised it keeps going up, not sure what's up here)

hey man..tough loss with oregon 1H. turnover on the first possession, blocked punt, and penalties did us in. can't ever predict those. the fact oregon cleaned things up 2H and still covered makes it worse but ucla did do a good job in containing the ducks run game.

anyway, im going double or nothing on AZ -14 at cal this sat. saw you had it on your leans. how r u liking it at 14....would you say you'd be very confident? the bears are horrible and this is a 12:30 game which means not many people will be in the stands which lowers the home field advantage imo. one thing is the cal d has looked a little better last couple of weeks and once again turnovers and penalties can change the game. that'd be my only concern.

omgdonbeebe

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Posted: Oct. 28, 2013 - 3:19 AM ET #39

Quote Originally Posted by GeneCam27:

Nice Top 5.....

I personally think FSU would mop the floor with Oregon and show them a thing or two at their own game. Really hoping we dont see a BAMA Oregon championship because it will be one sided.

Oregon has the schedule in their favor but I dont see them beating Stanford. Utah and Oregon state won't be pushovers nether.

Wasn't overly impressed with the win over UCLA at home. Jimbo called the dogs off around mid 3rd quarter. They could have dropped NC state 70-0 and look like douches.

UCLA young (but talented) in over their heads still gave oregon some trouble. They would get crushed by a legit crew. Really Disappointed in LSU losing to Ole Miss as I really think they have what it takes to run with BAMA and FSU.

You seem like one of those guys that if Ducks beat Bama 21-0 you would still be like..." You know I wasnt really impressed w/the ducks shutout win over bama this weekend, mmmkay".......#keephating

omgdonbeebe

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Posted: Oct. 28, 2013 - 3:59 AM ET #40

Wahoo i had a good write up and hit the "reset" button lol. Basically if you dont have HOUSTON (-17) and EAST CARO(-21) on your list then you must be drinking the kool-aid. IF you like ULL then you should be hammering these also. Tks for the write ups yo

totter

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Posted: Oct. 28, 2013 - 4:44 AM ET #41

good luck this week WahooS

dontbookme

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Posted: Oct. 28, 2013 - 9:20 AM ET #42

Org won't lose and either will Bama.. I think you're top 4 wins out to be honest..

Ducks and Tide play for title...

As an Fsu fan, I know we'll be on the outside looking in at the end..

HammersSpreads

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Posted: Oct. 28, 2013 - 9:46 AM ET #43

I like all those leans my man. And a few stood out to me as well when I looked at the card.....

SJSU (they are getting better bc they finally have a running game)

Rice (N Texas is real good at home, but they aren't sneaking up on anyone anymore)

Kent St

W Virgin

Looking into Wash St and Oregon St as well

tideman

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Posted: Oct. 28, 2013 - 10:23 AM ET #44

Auburn picking up steam, and one dimensional Razorbacks definitely losing steam

Love Tennessee in this spot... losing to Bama in a one sided affair, much easier to recover from, than the heart breaker the Tigers must recover from

Love Texas as well, you've got to hand it Mack, he actually has this team playing with a purpose

Best of luck this week

nostradamus12

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Posted: Oct. 28, 2013 - 12:15 PM ET #45

looks like we're on the same page this week on Texas, SJS and WV....opposite only on Wash St....was thinking the same on the Rice-UNT line movement, Owls seems pretty solid this year

keep the great year rolling, BOL bud

kendizi

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Posted: Oct. 28, 2013 - 12:55 PM ET #46

Everyone questioning if Mizzu is going to show up after a heartbreak ??? Come on people it's not like they are playing this game the next day...it's a week away for gawds sake...ya maybe it stings for a day or two but i don't think they are going to dwell on it for a whole week. If anything it should give them more fuel to fight harder... Tenn "may" cover but i'm not willing to put my $ on it...Good luck.

EB14_VB

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Posted: Oct. 28, 2013 - 1:15 PM ET #47

Great run wahoo... 40-19-1 myself so far for a site i contribute for.

Love the UT play.

Also, last three teams to play stanford (Wash, Utah, UCLA) all lost SU & ATS the week after playing the Cardinal.

Oregon State line seems way too low even w/ the movement. No play for me

WahooS

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Posted: Oct. 28, 2013 - 1:21 PM ET #48

Quote Originally Posted by EB14_VB:

Great run wahoo... 40-19-1 myself so far for a site i contribute for.

Love the UT play.

Also, last three teams to play stanford (Wash, Utah, UCLA) all lost SU & ATS the week after playing the Cardinal.

Oregon State line seems way too low even w/ the movement. No play for me

first of all, great record, very well done

two of those three teams that lost after playing Stanford played Oregon, of course they lost

, the other was Utah after an emotional win having to go on the road to play Zona (I bet Zona in that one because of the ideal spot)

the difference here is Oregon St gets to stay at home and they get the prime time slot all to themselves so they will be super fired up

I may not play the game at all unless the lines goes down but I'm not concerned about them playing Stanford the previous week

thanks for the post

WahooS

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Posted: Oct. 28, 2013 - 1:25 PM ET #49

Quote Originally Posted by kendizi:

Everyone questioning if Mizzu is going to show up after a heartbreak ??? Come on people it's not like they are playing this game the next day...it's a week away for gawds sake...ya maybe it stings for a day or two but i don't think they are going to dwell on it for a whole week. If anything it should give them more fuel to fight harder... Tenn "may" cover but i'm not willing to put my $ on it...Good luck.

just like any wager, there are always variables, in my experience this is a spot that favors the underdog, doesn't mean I'm going to be right though, I feel the Vols have a 65% chance to cover 13 so it was worth a shot

WahooS

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Posted: Oct. 28, 2013 - 1:30 PM ET #50

Quote Originally Posted by omgdonbeebe:

huh? I didn't realize there was a kool-aid for South Florida and Florida Intl, I highly doubt many are jumping in line to bet those teams any week, both are rock bottom bad so I don't disagree with your sides there

I do like kool-aid though on a side note but haven't had any since I was a child because it's sugar filled awfulness

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