For teh record it is a shame Clemson lost to Florida State. I have them as the best one loss team in the country yet nobody talks about them. Look at Florida State's loss NC State ? really ? Clemson lost a road game to a top 10 team. They are a solid squad
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For teh record it is a shame Clemson lost to Florida State. I have them as the best one loss team in the country yet nobody talks about them. Look at Florida State's loss NC State ? really ? Clemson lost a road game to a top 10 team. They are a solid squad
again wheels..............if your gonna debate with me, please bring some facts.
Clemson is ranked 4th in defense in the ACC
You can talk about UF's offense all you want but the simple fact is teams are not going to put up points on the Gator defense. Florida's defense is dominant and if you don't think they are you are not watching them.
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Quote Originally Posted by Boom_Boom:
again wheels..............if your gonna debate with me, please bring some facts.
Clemson is ranked 4th in defense in the ACC
You can talk about UF's offense all you want but the simple fact is teams are not going to put up points on the Gator defense. Florida's defense is dominant and if you don't think they are you are not watching them.
wheels.... the facts are the facts. If Florida cant score...and you know they have problems scoring, that is a fact...if that all is true. Under no circumstance could Florida beat Clemson right now on a neutral field. It just wouldnt happen....
Like I said, You will find out and these 2 teams here in a few weeks when both teams drill there Rivals... Florida has NO shot at wining in Tallahassee and S.C has no shot at wining in Death Valley.
so two top ten SEC teams have no chance of beating two ACC teams? Do you hear yourself?
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Quote Originally Posted by Boom_Boom:
wheels.... the facts are the facts. If Florida cant score...and you know they have problems scoring, that is a fact...if that all is true. Under no circumstance could Florida beat Clemson right now on a neutral field. It just wouldnt happen....
Like I said, You will find out and these 2 teams here in a few weeks when both teams drill there Rivals... Florida has NO shot at wining in Tallahassee and S.C has no shot at wining in Death Valley.
so two top ten SEC teams have no chance of beating two ACC teams? Do you hear yourself?
For teh record it is a shame Clemson lost to Florida State. I have them as the best one loss team in the country yet nobody talks about them. Look at Florida State's loss NC State ? really ? Clemson lost a road game to a top 10 team. They are a solid squad
I agree... Clemson lost to the 2nd best defense in the country on the ROAD at NIGHT and still scored 37 points.
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Quote Originally Posted by cbowles1111:
For teh record it is a shame Clemson lost to Florida State. I have them as the best one loss team in the country yet nobody talks about them. Look at Florida State's loss NC State ? really ? Clemson lost a road game to a top 10 team. They are a solid squad
I agree... Clemson lost to the 2nd best defense in the country on the ROAD at NIGHT and still scored 37 points.
It would be nice to see people stop bashing on the site and post actual information on why they pick a team versus the wins they got that others don't got, I like reading booms, doubleups, and trains thread even if I don't follow the play, but it would be nice to see their information without weaving through the arguing, unless it is related to teams and why one should or should not be bet. Remember the books is who we going after, I'm up 3k this year, probably no thanks to college football, especially when les finds way to pull money out of ur pockets but that is a story for another day, but I like getting information in making these bets that I may overlook if I didn't come to the forums
The bashers need to take note and realize these guys give up alot of their time, doubleup does a power rating for god sakes that has to be semi time consuming, so appreciate the work they do, otherwise there would be zero information on this site and just picks, and whoever happens to be hot is the hero, I personally think train has proven himself through numerous sports that he has a good grasp on betting, so don't know why people no his case
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It would be nice to see people stop bashing on the site and post actual information on why they pick a team versus the wins they got that others don't got, I like reading booms, doubleups, and trains thread even if I don't follow the play, but it would be nice to see their information without weaving through the arguing, unless it is related to teams and why one should or should not be bet. Remember the books is who we going after, I'm up 3k this year, probably no thanks to college football, especially when les finds way to pull money out of ur pockets but that is a story for another day, but I like getting information in making these bets that I may overlook if I didn't come to the forums
The bashers need to take note and realize these guys give up alot of their time, doubleup does a power rating for god sakes that has to be semi time consuming, so appreciate the work they do, otherwise there would be zero information on this site and just picks, and whoever happens to be hot is the hero, I personally think train has proven himself through numerous sports that he has a good grasp on betting, so don't know why people no his case
It would be nice to see people stop bashing on the site and post actual information on why they pick a team versus the wins they got that others don't got, I like reading booms, doubleups, and trains thread even if I don't follow the play, but it would be nice to see their information without weaving through the arguing, unless it is related to teams and why one should or should not be bet. Remember the books is who we going after, I'm up 3k this year, probably no thanks to college football, especially when les finds way to pull money out of ur pockets but that is a story for another day, but I like getting information in making these bets that I may overlook if I didn't come to the forums
The bashers need to take note and realize these guys give up alot of their time, doubleup does a power rating for god sakes that has to be semi time consuming, so appreciate the work they do, otherwise there would be zero information on this site and just picks, and whoever happens to be hot is the hero, I personally think train has proven himself through numerous sports that he has a good grasp on betting, so don't know why people no his case
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It would be nice to see people stop bashing on the site and post actual information on why they pick a team versus the wins they got that others don't got, I like reading booms, doubleups, and trains thread even if I don't follow the play, but it would be nice to see their information without weaving through the arguing, unless it is related to teams and why one should or should not be bet. Remember the books is who we going after, I'm up 3k this year, probably no thanks to college football, especially when les finds way to pull money out of ur pockets but that is a story for another day, but I like getting information in making these bets that I may overlook if I didn't come to the forums
The bashers need to take note and realize these guys give up alot of their time, doubleup does a power rating for god sakes that has to be semi time consuming, so appreciate the work they do, otherwise there would be zero information on this site and just picks, and whoever happens to be hot is the hero, I personally think train has proven himself through numerous sports that he has a good grasp on betting, so don't know why people no his case
They are also ranked as the like #3 offense, anyone with a brain knows thats a joke. Their schedule has them ranked highly in many categories.
To say that two SEC teams in the top 8 have NO chance to beat ACC teams is reaching.
ok wheels....
FSU is the 2nd best defense in the country. We put up 37 on them. You cant even score more then 14 AT HOME vs Mizz. Trust me, you would lose.
I think your smarter then the statement you made. You do understand that these teams like Georgia are ranked high because of the initial rankings right.... What has Georgia done? Beat Florida? On a neutral Field? who cares
Here is how I would rank the top 3 teams from the SEC
Alabama Florida LSU
Im giving you credit
But guess what? Florida cant beat either Clemson or FSU, so what does that tell you?
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Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:
They are also ranked as the like #3 offense, anyone with a brain knows thats a joke. Their schedule has them ranked highly in many categories.
To say that two SEC teams in the top 8 have NO chance to beat ACC teams is reaching.
ok wheels....
FSU is the 2nd best defense in the country. We put up 37 on them. You cant even score more then 14 AT HOME vs Mizz. Trust me, you would lose.
I think your smarter then the statement you made. You do understand that these teams like Georgia are ranked high because of the initial rankings right.... What has Georgia done? Beat Florida? On a neutral Field? who cares
Here is how I would rank the top 3 teams from the SEC
Alabama Florida LSU
Im giving you credit
But guess what? Florida cant beat either Clemson or FSU, so what does that tell you?
Boom - still dont have your take on why you like WVA +8...I think you need to hold off on that one. WVA hasnt played a high potent offense like this since KSU...and we all know what happened..Its doesnt matter pokies will have their backup starting. Pokies at home are tough.Its all about the system, too..and Mountaineers do not match up well...explain to me your thought process. Thanks
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Boom - still dont have your take on why you like WVA +8...I think you need to hold off on that one. WVA hasnt played a high potent offense like this since KSU...and we all know what happened..Its doesnt matter pokies will have their backup starting. Pokies at home are tough.Its all about the system, too..and Mountaineers do not match up well...explain to me your thought process. Thanks
I dont usually give home team points on Thursday,but you have any thoughts on Flor.St-14 against VT,the Hokies look bad most times and I could see them blowing out VT. Any thoughts would help,thanks
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I dont usually give home team points on Thursday,but you have any thoughts on Flor.St-14 against VT,the Hokies look bad most times and I could see them blowing out VT. Any thoughts would help,thanks
FSU is the 2nd best defense in the country. We put up 37 on them. You cant even score more then 14 AT HOME vs Mizz. Trust me, you would lose.
I think your smarter then the statement you made. You do understand that these teams like Georgia are ranked high because of the initial rankings right.... What has Georgia done? Beat Florida? On a neutral Field? who cares
Here is how I would rank the top 3 teams from the SEC
Alabama Florida LSU
Im giving you credit
But guess what? Florida cant beat either Clemson or FSU, so what does that tell you?
You are simply letting your hate of everything SEC get in the way. Florida can win every game just by scoring 14 points, you know why? Because the defense will score at least one on their own or be responsible for two. If you think ANY offense in the country is going to score on Florida's defense more than two or three times a game, you have not been watching them.
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Quote Originally Posted by Boom_Boom:
ok wheels....
FSU is the 2nd best defense in the country. We put up 37 on them. You cant even score more then 14 AT HOME vs Mizz. Trust me, you would lose.
I think your smarter then the statement you made. You do understand that these teams like Georgia are ranked high because of the initial rankings right.... What has Georgia done? Beat Florida? On a neutral Field? who cares
Here is how I would rank the top 3 teams from the SEC
Alabama Florida LSU
Im giving you credit
But guess what? Florida cant beat either Clemson or FSU, so what does that tell you?
You are simply letting your hate of everything SEC get in the way. Florida can win every game just by scoring 14 points, you know why? Because the defense will score at least one on their own or be responsible for two. If you think ANY offense in the country is going to score on Florida's defense more than two or three times a game, you have not been watching them.
Look at these numbers. FSU has played seven 1-A teams. Three of those teams ranked # 108 or worse in rushing offense in the NCAA, adjusting out 1-AA numbers. Two are ranked #98 and #99. So five of seven teams FSU faced are no better than #98 in rushing offense. That is pretty bad.
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Look at these numbers. FSU has played seven 1-A teams. Three of those teams ranked # 108 or worse in rushing offense in the NCAA, adjusting out 1-AA numbers. Two are ranked #98 and #99. So five of seven teams FSU faced are no better than #98 in rushing offense. That is pretty bad.
You are simply letting your hate of everything SEC get in the way. Florida can win every game just by scoring 14 points, you know why? Because the defense will score at least one on their own or be responsible for two. If you think ANY offense in the country is going to score on Florida's defense more than two or three times a game, you have not been watching them.
I'll take the Oregon team total over 17 please
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Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:
You are simply letting your hate of everything SEC get in the way. Florida can win every game just by scoring 14 points, you know why? Because the defense will score at least one on their own or be responsible for two. If you think ANY offense in the country is going to score on Florida's defense more than two or three times a game, you have not been watching them.
Boom - still dont have your take on why you like WVA +8...I think you need to hold off on that one. WVA hasnt played a high potent offense like this since KSU...and we all know what happened..Its doesnt matter pokies will have their backup starting. Pokies at home are tough.Its all about the system, too..and Mountaineers do not match up well...explain to me your thought process. Thanks
Both teams are average... I think getting points in a game where both are about equal benefits me. It will be a shootout
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Quote Originally Posted by Liquorinfront:
Boom - still dont have your take on why you like WVA +8...I think you need to hold off on that one. WVA hasnt played a high potent offense like this since KSU...and we all know what happened..Its doesnt matter pokies will have their backup starting. Pokies at home are tough.Its all about the system, too..and Mountaineers do not match up well...explain to me your thought process. Thanks
Both teams are average... I think getting points in a game where both are about equal benefits me. It will be a shootout
I dont usually give home team points on Thursday,but you have any thoughts on Flor.St-14 against VT,the Hokies look bad most times and I could see them blowing out VT. Any thoughts would help,thanks
I would LOVE to see V.T win this game for obvious reasons.... I just dont see it happening tho. You never know tho, @ LANE stadium vs a team who has nothing to play for.
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Quote Originally Posted by JEG53:
I dont usually give home team points on Thursday,but you have any thoughts on Flor.St-14 against VT,the Hokies look bad most times and I could see them blowing out VT. Any thoughts would help,thanks
I would LOVE to see V.T win this game for obvious reasons.... I just dont see it happening tho. You never know tho, @ LANE stadium vs a team who has nothing to play for.
You are simply letting your hate of everything SEC get in the way. Florida can win every game just by scoring 14 points, you know why? Because the defense will score at least one on their own or be responsible for two. If you think ANY offense in the country is going to score on Florida's defense more than two or three times a game, you have not been watching them.
You think im disrespecting Florida and the SEC... I think you might be the biggest homer I have ever seen.......
It's easy.
I'll take Clemson and FSU
You take Florida and S.C
Name the price
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Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:
You are simply letting your hate of everything SEC get in the way. Florida can win every game just by scoring 14 points, you know why? Because the defense will score at least one on their own or be responsible for two. If you think ANY offense in the country is going to score on Florida's defense more than two or three times a game, you have not been watching them.
You think im disrespecting Florida and the SEC... I think you might be the biggest homer I have ever seen.......
Boom you haven't taken one thing into consideration. You have made a study on football so I'm surprised you haven't brought it up. Son the ref's are doing business both pro and college. It's so obvious. All the bad obvious bad calls that even the Announcers can't believe them. They are all crooked sob's. Check how many games their calls affect the overs an unders. Please take up the cause. People read your stuff. You have influence. Thanks. Mike in Ok. city
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Boom you haven't taken one thing into consideration. You have made a study on football so I'm surprised you haven't brought it up. Son the ref's are doing business both pro and college. It's so obvious. All the bad obvious bad calls that even the Announcers can't believe them. They are all crooked sob's. Check how many games their calls affect the overs an unders. Please take up the cause. People read your stuff. You have influence. Thanks. Mike in Ok. city
Boom you haven't taken one thing into consideration. You have made a study on football so I'm surprised you haven't brought it up. Son the ref's are doing business both pro and college. It's so obvious. All the bad obvious bad calls that even the Announcers can't believe them. They are all crooked sob's. Check how many games their calls affect the overs an unders. Please take up the cause. People read your stuff. You have influence. Thanks. Mike in Ok. city
Dude Im with ya....
Never have I ever entertained the idea of dirty business in College football.... but this season has really gotten sketchy
Mike in OK. City
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Quote Originally Posted by mglokc1:
Boom you haven't taken one thing into consideration. You have made a study on football so I'm surprised you haven't brought it up. Son the ref's are doing business both pro and college. It's so obvious. All the bad obvious bad calls that even the Announcers can't believe them. They are all crooked sob's. Check how many games their calls affect the overs an unders. Please take up the cause. People read your stuff. You have influence. Thanks. Mike in Ok. city
Dude Im with ya....
Never have I ever entertained the idea of dirty business in College football.... but this season has really gotten sketchy
You think im disrespecting Florida and the SEC... I think you might be the biggest homer I have ever seen.......
It's easy.
I'll take Clemson and FSU
You take Florida and S.C
Name the price
No I know that UF has arguably the best defense in the nation, they are that dominant with NO help from Driskel. It's not being a homer when you are posting facts. Do you realize how good and deep Florida's defense is? Have you watched them play because you should know? Florida has faced top 10 and top 20 defenses in 6 of their 9 games and still shut the other teams offenses down the whole game.
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Quote Originally Posted by Boom_Boom:
You think im disrespecting Florida and the SEC... I think you might be the biggest homer I have ever seen.......
It's easy.
I'll take Clemson and FSU
You take Florida and S.C
Name the price
No I know that UF has arguably the best defense in the nation, they are that dominant with NO help from Driskel. It's not being a homer when you are posting facts. Do you realize how good and deep Florida's defense is? Have you watched them play because you should know? Florida has faced top 10 and top 20 defenses in 6 of their 9 games and still shut the other teams offenses down the whole game.
Of course I know how good the defense is.... me and you were the only people around talking about how good the defense was gonna be...... But Wheels man, the offense is beyond bad. a few weeks ago I told you Florida at some point would have to win a game by the offense... Did I not?? See what happen too? Dont blame it on turnovers....Georgia played bad too... the point is, the offense is about as bad as I have ever seen at Florida..... really bad
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Of course I know how good the defense is.... me and you were the only people around talking about how good the defense was gonna be...... But Wheels man, the offense is beyond bad. a few weeks ago I told you Florida at some point would have to win a game by the offense... Did I not?? See what happen too? Dont blame it on turnovers....Georgia played bad too... the point is, the offense is about as bad as I have ever seen at Florida..... really bad
I totally agree that about Clemson hitting their stride and DEFINITELY the best 1 loss team in the game right now. Their defense has struggled early, but I have seen a SHED of light in recent games. No way FSU would beat them now...OR FLORIDA for that matter. That team is a joke. (Bring on the hate)
Clemson games are my favorite to watch. Sammy Watkins IS THE REAL DEAL.
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I totally agree that about Clemson hitting their stride and DEFINITELY the best 1 loss team in the game right now. Their defense has struggled early, but I have seen a SHED of light in recent games. No way FSU would beat them now...OR FLORIDA for that matter. That team is a joke. (Bring on the hate)
Clemson games are my favorite to watch. Sammy Watkins IS THE REAL DEAL.
ok wheels....
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