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    haydenvalley
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2017 - 12:00 PM ET #1

       I'm thinking Michigan too physical, better coaching, and better talent, but 10 points ? My large teaser is Michigan -3 coupled with UCLA +14. Your thoughts ?
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       I'm thinking Michigan too physical, better coaching, and better talent, but 10 points ? My large teaser is Michigan -3 coupled with UCLA +14. Your thoughts ?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2017 - 12:56 PM ET #2

    Put Michigan in with your other favorites and parlay them together.  That game will not be within 17 points.  Michigan's defense is too fast, athletic, and physical for Purdue to do much on offense.  They won't score more than 17.  

    That means Michigan has to score 28 or more to win.  Do you really think they are going to be as bad this week in the red zone as they were last week?  

    Purdue didn't become a power program over one offseason.  They are outmanned at every position and it will show during the game. 

    Final score will be 38-17. 
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    Put Michigan in with your other favorites and parlay them together.  That game will not be within 17 points.  Michigan's defense is too fast, athletic, and physical for Purdue to do much on offense.  They won't score more than 17.  

    That means Michigan has to score 28 or more to win.  Do you really think they are going to be as bad this week in the red zone as they were last week?  

    Purdue didn't become a power program over one offseason.  They are outmanned at every position and it will show during the game. 

    Final score will be 38-17. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2017 - 1:09 PM ET #3

       You are RIGHT, Butta4 ! What do you think of UCLA +14 on the tease ?
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       You are RIGHT, Butta4 ! What do you think of UCLA +14 on the tease ?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2017 - 1:26 PM ET #4

    After watching them struggle against Florida, I said ok... I'll give them another shot before I fade them... then I watched them struggle against Air Force, so I'm all over Purdue (who I watched completely dismantle a good Missouri team with one of the best QBs in the SEC) I'm all over Purdue +10
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    After watching them struggle against Florida, I said ok... I'll give them another shot before I fade them... then I watched them struggle against Air Force, so I'm all over Purdue (who I watched completely dismantle a good Missouri team with one of the best QBs in the SEC) I'm all over Purdue +10
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2017 - 1:34 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by Tappy:

    After watching them struggle against Florida, I said ok... I'll give them another shot before I fade them... then I watched them struggle against Air Force, so I'm all over Purdue (who I watched completely dismantle a good Missouri team with one of the best QBs in the SEC) I'm all over Purdue +10

    News Flash! Michigan didn't struggle against Florida. They dominated them. Florida was lucky to lose by only 16. Michigan outgained Florida over 2-1.

    News Flash! Missouri sucks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tappy:

    After watching them struggle against Florida, I said ok... I'll give them another shot before I fade them... then I watched them struggle against Air Force, so I'm all over Purdue (who I watched completely dismantle a good Missouri team with one of the best QBs in the SEC) I'm all over Purdue +10

    News Flash! Michigan didn't struggle against Florida. They dominated them. Florida was lucky to lose by only 16. Michigan outgained Florida over 2-1.

    News Flash! Missouri sucks

     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2017 - 1:57 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by mbialowas:

    Quote Originally Posted by Tappy:

    After watching them struggle against Florida, I said ok... I'll give them another shot before I fade them... then I watched them struggle against Air Force, so I'm all over Purdue (who I watched completely dismantle a good Missouri team with one of the best QBs in the SEC) I'm all over Purdue +10
    News Flash! Michigan didn't struggle against Florida. They dominated them. Florida was lucky to lose by only 16. Michigan outgained Florida over 2-1.News Flash! Missouri sucks

    News flash... Florida was winning at half time, and if they have an offense, which they don't (worst in the SEC), Michigan gets it first loss.

    News flash... Missouri has one of the best QBs in the nation, and Purdue shut him down... Their defense sucks bit their offense put up 74 points week 1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbialowas:

    Quote Originally Posted by Tappy:

    After watching them struggle against Florida, I said ok... I'll give them another shot before I fade them... then I watched them struggle against Air Force, so I'm all over Purdue (who I watched completely dismantle a good Missouri team with one of the best QBs in the SEC) I'm all over Purdue +10
    News Flash! Michigan didn't struggle against Florida. They dominated them. Florida was lucky to lose by only 16. Michigan outgained Florida over 2-1.News Flash! Missouri sucks

    News flash... Florida was winning at half time, and if they have an offense, which they don't (worst in the SEC), Michigan gets it first loss.

    News flash... Missouri has one of the best QBs in the nation, and Purdue shut him down... Their defense sucks bit their offense put up 74 points week 1.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2017 - 2:19 PM ET #7

    Saw a guy wearing this shirt, "Boiler Up Biatch" 


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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2017 - 2:42 PM ET #8

    Drew Lock is one of the best QBs in the nation? That's news to me. I think it's best you stick to the SEC games, Tappy. 
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    Drew Lock is one of the best QBs in the nation? That's news to me. I think it's best you stick to the SEC games, Tappy. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2017 - 2:49 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by DynastyOne:

    Drew Lock is one of the best QBs in the nation? That's news to me. I think it's best you stick to the SEC games, Tappy.

    Yes... he was top 5 prior to the Penn St game...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DynastyOne:

    Drew Lock is one of the best QBs in the nation? That's news to me. I think it's best you stick to the SEC games, Tappy.

    Yes... he was top 5 prior to the Penn St game...
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2017 - 2:51 PM ET #10

    The past two week Michigan has burned me. They didn't cover against Cincy or Air Force. 

    ( I think with that Air Force game though you have to go back and watch the tape they couldn't convert in the red zone)

    All the research I've done and ratings I've checked all signs point towards them winning this game by at least by 2 touchdowns. 
    I want to fade them because they let me down the past two weeks but I'll probably pull the trigger and consider them for my parlay
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    The past two week Michigan has burned me. They didn't cover against Cincy or Air Force. 

    ( I think with that Air Force game though you have to go back and watch the tape they couldn't convert in the red zone)

    All the research I've done and ratings I've checked all signs point towards them winning this game by at least by 2 touchdowns. 
    I want to fade them because they let me down the past two weeks but I'll probably pull the trigger and consider them for my parlay
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2017 - 3:01 PM ET #11

    I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I don't think Drew Lock is one of the best QBs in the nation. 12 for 28 last week with 133 yds and 2 ints last week against a middle of the pack BIG10 team isn't good. I can't wait to see what he does against some SEC defenses.
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    I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I don't think Drew Lock is one of the best QBs in the nation. 12 for 28 last week with 133 yds and 2 ints last week against a middle of the pack BIG10 team isn't good. I can't wait to see what he does against some SEC defenses.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2017 - 3:27 PM ET #12

    Michigan QB  is a Stiff ,  now take away his top receiver  who's out with broken foot , on the road  GL with all this 

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    Michigan QB  is a Stiff ,  now take away his top receiver  who's out with broken foot , on the road  GL with all this 

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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2017 - 3:34 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by haydenvalley:

       I'm thinking Michigan too physical, better coaching, and better talent, but 10 points ? My large teaser is Michigan -3 coupled with UCLA +14. Your thoughts ?


    better coaching really ? The Purdue coach takes on jobs with bad teams and makes them good  

    Harbaugh just has the NFL name and has an edge in recruiting because of it both him and his brother are so overrated it's  laughable i think they both suck   ...Calhoun out coached him last week 
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       I'm thinking Michigan too physical, better coaching, and better talent, but 10 points ? My large teaser is Michigan -3 coupled with UCLA +14. Your thoughts ?


    better coaching really ? The Purdue coach takes on jobs with bad teams and makes them good  

    Harbaugh just has the NFL name and has an edge in recruiting because of it both him and his brother are so overrated it's  laughable i think they both suck   ...Calhoun out coached him last week 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2017 - 3:44 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by Steinway:

    Quote Originally Posted by haydenvalley:

       I'm thinking Michigan too physical, better coaching, and better talent, but 10 points ? My large teaser is Michigan -3 coupled with UCLA +14. Your thoughts ?
    better coaching really ? The Purdue coach takes on jobs with bad teams and makes them good  Harbaugh just has the NFL name and has an edge in recruiting because of it both him and his brother are so overrated it's  laughable i think they both suck   ...Calhoun out coached him last week

    Building up Stanford into a consistent top 25 team and getting a lowly 49er team to the super bowl? Lol whatever you say
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    Quote Originally Posted by haydenvalley:

       I'm thinking Michigan too physical, better coaching, and better talent, but 10 points ? My large teaser is Michigan -3 coupled with UCLA +14. Your thoughts ?
    better coaching really ? The Purdue coach takes on jobs with bad teams and makes them good  Harbaugh just has the NFL name and has an edge in recruiting because of it both him and his brother are so overrated it's  laughable i think they both suck   ...Calhoun out coached him last week

    Building up Stanford into a consistent top 25 team and getting a lowly 49er team to the super bowl? Lol whatever you say
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2017 - 3:51 PM ET #15

    If you like Michigan this week I can understand why.  


    Just realize that you are picking a Michigan team that fails to cover at a 55% rate so the odds are slightly against you and long term Betting Michigan you will end up in the poor house not the Big House.

    If you bet on Michigan as an away favorite since 1987 ( proven again and again over a long period of time) with lines between -5 and -13 your odds get even worse.

    https://sportsdatabase.com/ncaafb/query?output=default&sdql=t%3Ateam+%3D+MICH++and+AF+and+line+%3C%3D-5+and+line+%3E%3D-13+and+date+%3E19870301&submit=++S+D+Q+L+%21++





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    If you like Michigan this week I can understand why.  


    Just realize that you are picking a Michigan team that fails to cover at a 55% rate so the odds are slightly against you and long term Betting Michigan you will end up in the poor house not the Big House.

    If you bet on Michigan as an away favorite since 1987 ( proven again and again over a long period of time) with lines between -5 and -13 your odds get even worse.

    https://sportsdatabase.com/ncaafb/query?output=default&sdql=t%3Ateam+%3D+MICH++and+AF+and+line+%3C%3D-5+and+line+%3E%3D-13+and+date+%3E19870301&submit=++S+D+Q+L+%21++





     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2017 - 3:59 PM ET #16

    This game has bubble burst written all over it for Purdue.Down to earth they come JMHO
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    This game has bubble burst written all over it for Purdue.Down to earth they come JMHO
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savagepatchkids:

    better coaching really ? The Purdue coach takes on jobs with bad teams and makes them good  Harbaugh just has the NFL name and has an edge in recruiting because of it both him and his brother are so overrated it's  laughable i think they both suck   ...Calhoun out coached him last week
    Building up Stanford into a consistent top 25 team and getting a lowly 49er team to the super bowl? Lol whatever you say


     Seriously 99.9% of all coaches would have made Stanford a top 25 team with Andrew Luck . 


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    better coaching really ? The Purdue coach takes on jobs with bad teams and makes them good  Harbaugh just has the NFL name and has an edge in recruiting because of it both him and his brother are so overrated it's  laughable i think they both suck   ...Calhoun out coached him last week
    Building up Stanford into a consistent top 25 team and getting a lowly 49er team to the super bowl? Lol whatever you say


     Seriously 99.9% of all coaches would have made Stanford a top 25 team with Andrew Luck . 


     
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    You guys forgot that Harbaugh took a nothing San Diego University team and made them a very good football team before he moved to Stanford.
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    You guys forgot that Harbaugh took a nothing San Diego University team and made them a very good football team before he moved to Stanford.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2017 - 6:41 PM ET #19

    i like purdue too but haven't made the bet. i think they look physically tougher this year and not as finesse. 10 pts is kinda tight though and michigan has a way of wearing teams down in the second half.

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    i like purdue too but haven't made the bet. i think they look physically tougher this year and not as finesse. 10 pts is kinda tight though and michigan has a way of wearing teams down in the second half.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bearsfan111:

    This game has bubble burst written all over it for Purdue.Down to earth they come JMHO

    Bubble burst? Purdue has beaten Ohio and Mizzou. What bubble inflated with such wins?

    The burst bubble is waiting for Michigan who at 3-0 hasn't been impressive in the least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bearsfan111:

    This game has bubble burst written all over it for Purdue.Down to earth they come JMHO

    Bubble burst? Purdue has beaten Ohio and Mizzou. What bubble inflated with such wins?

    The burst bubble is waiting for Michigan who at 3-0 hasn't been impressive in the least.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2017 - 10:07 PM ET #22

    Under 52. I think Mich Def will hold Purdue and Mich is not a scoring machine on the road. I think they try and pound it out on the ground.
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    Under 52. I think Mich Def will hold Purdue and Mich is not a scoring machine on the road. I think they try and pound it out on the ground.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2017 - 10:06 AM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by Tappy:

    After watching them struggle against Florida, I said ok... I'll give them another shot before I fade them... then I watched them struggle against Air Force, so I'm all over Purdue (who I watched completely dismantle a good Missouri team with one of the best QBs in the SEC) I'm all over Purdue +10
    You keep saying Michigan struggled against Florida, give me examples of how they struggled?  They dominated that game outside of two early pick sixes.  

    You've been hot, but I think you're on the wrong side of this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tappy:

    After watching them struggle against Florida, I said ok... I'll give them another shot before I fade them... then I watched them struggle against Air Force, so I'm all over Purdue (who I watched completely dismantle a good Missouri team with one of the best QBs in the SEC) I'm all over Purdue +10
    You keep saying Michigan struggled against Florida, give me examples of how they struggled?  They dominated that game outside of two early pick sixes.  

    You've been hot, but I think you're on the wrong side of this one.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2017 - 11:03 AM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by haydenvalley:

       You are RIGHT, Butta4 ! What do you think of UCLA +14 on the tease ?

    Stanford is such a strange team this year, but so is UCLA.  How is the UCLA rush defense so bad?  Memphis ran all over UCLA, and Stanford is still a good rushing team.  Stanford can't stop anyone doing anything...

    It I were to pick a side here on a teaser it would be UCLA +14, but I think teasing the Over down to 52 on the total might be better.  Neither team can stop the other's strength which usually leads to high point totals.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by haydenvalley:

       You are RIGHT, Butta4 ! What do you think of UCLA +14 on the tease ?

    Stanford is such a strange team this year, but so is UCLA.  How is the UCLA rush defense so bad?  Memphis ran all over UCLA, and Stanford is still a good rushing team.  Stanford can't stop anyone doing anything...

    It I were to pick a side here on a teaser it would be UCLA +14, but I think teasing the Over down to 52 on the total might be better.  Neither team can stop the other's strength which usually leads to high point totals.  
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2017 - 1:55 PM ET #25

    I love this spot for Michigan. Michigan showing that they have been "struggling" the first two games yet they won with ease. Did they cover? Nope. They are 0-2 ATS. Harbaugh is the type of guy who picks his spots and he is a master motivator; probably a top 3 in all of college. Why is this important for this game? Purdue looks good right? They have played two solid games thus far and are getting 10 at home? Seems like a no brainer huh?I will say this: if you don't think harbaugh, the staff and the players aren't going to be ready for this game, you all are nuts. Keep sleeping on this Michigan team. Keep thinking their offense can't put up points. Just wait. Speight will get it together this week and watch out for that running game. Were you expecting Michigan to blow both teams out so far? They are 2-0 and in a conference game, it's time to rock and roll. I think Michigan wins by 20 tomorrow and I think we see their offense shut a lot of people up. As for the defense, I'm not sure if I've seen too many so far that are better. If Purdue can't run tomorrow, it will be a massacre and harbaugh knows that. I love their coaching and in this type of game, it weighs heavily. I will be slamming Michigan in this spot and expect them to get their first ATS win this season.
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    I love this spot for Michigan. Michigan showing that they have been "struggling" the first two games yet they won with ease. Did they cover? Nope. They are 0-2 ATS. Harbaugh is the type of guy who picks his spots and he is a master motivator; probably a top 3 in all of college. Why is this important for this game? Purdue looks good right? They have played two solid games thus far and are getting 10 at home? Seems like a no brainer huh?I will say this: if you don't think harbaugh, the staff and the players aren't going to be ready for this game, you all are nuts. Keep sleeping on this Michigan team. Keep thinking their offense can't put up points. Just wait. Speight will get it together this week and watch out for that running game. Were you expecting Michigan to blow both teams out so far? They are 2-0 and in a conference game, it's time to rock and roll. I think Michigan wins by 20 tomorrow and I think we see their offense shut a lot of people up. As for the defense, I'm not sure if I've seen too many so far that are better. If Purdue can't run tomorrow, it will be a massacre and harbaugh knows that. I love their coaching and in this type of game, it weighs heavily. I will be slamming Michigan in this spot and expect them to get their first ATS win this season.
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