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#1
What an appropriate way for Auburn to seal the deal in this game, and just get the win no matter what.
I can't think of a better way to crown them. It suits them.
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Hurry Up!!! RUN !!! Run While They're Not Looking!!!
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#2
Not a well played game byn Cam Newton. Oregon shut him down completely.
Not a true Oregon football game. Mismanaged redzone opportunities.
Not sure we want football to be played this way at all. Alabama was a great champion. Auburn is a different animal. They are hard to like for several reasons.
Cam.
The Coach.
The defensive players.
The dreadlocks (love BobMarley, but these guys aint 'cool' they be criminal)
Oregon is not exacty an opposite of Auburn--but Auburn is not what most of us want to see in a champion. But they lined up with pads and helmets and they won every game. So that makes them champions. Noone said champions will always be "good ol boys," and anyway that's boring.
I will accept Auburn for what they are. They won. They are not my kinda team. But they are ok. Nothing wrong with having an edge about you, and getting in your face. Hell, the other team wants to beat you and disrespect you, so why not defend yourself?
Congrats Auburn. It will be a LOOOOOOONG time before you see that trophy again. But thanks for contributing.
NEXT!
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Quote Originally Posted by player:
what do you want to see in a champion? what role models do these kids have today ? NBA NFL MLB we have come to accept this as a society. you have a choice not to watch sports
what do you want to see in a champion? what role models do these kids have today ? NBA NFL MLB we have come to accept this as a society. you have a choice not to watch sports
I like drama. I also like to have expectations of human behavior. If I get NEITHER in a game, I start asking questions.
If Auburn's star QB and his family have "issues" then this is disconcerting.
If Coach Chizick has no congratulations for the other team, than he is not being very "national" or diplomatic, and not contributing to the sport.
If Auburn's defensive players continue to play 'dirty' and abusive, then as champions they are taking football to a different arena than it was before.
Why was this game a slugfest?
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actually agree with most of your points: Auburn is the least impressive national champion i can remember since the BCS system began...... Oregon played as bad as i saw them play all year, and no it wasn't a case of Auburn making them look bad; Auburn looked bad enough on their own. some teams just get the breaks (ala 1999 NE Patriots)...... that was Auburn's year in a nutshell...... i think if you run this season out again, with all of the same games (including Oregon), they would be lucky to get away with less than 3 losses.
Oregon beat themselves, and it's a shame, because they would have been at least a somewhat respectable national champ. and the most unfortunate thing is that the vast majority of fans just don't know what they are watching well enough to gauge that fact.
Oregon beat themselves, and it's a shame, because they would have been at least a somewhat respectable national champ. and the most unfortunate thing is that the vast majority of fans just don't know what they are watching well enough to gauge that fact.
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#8
I disagree completely with Shep. Auburn was clearly the better team. Maybe they aren't the best team in the country, but they were the better team Monday night. The completely shut down what Oregon does best (run the ball). That was their game plan and it worked, ala National Champs. How can you guys not respect that?
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#9
Both offenses were off, both defenses took advantage of that. Dont blame Auburn because Oregons play calling inside the 5 yard line was horrendous. By the way, 90 percent of major D1 schools are shady as hell because the $$$ are astronomical if they hit the jackpot along with the prestige of winning a BCS bowl. This game was also redemption for AU fans and grads going back to 2004 , you remember them right? 13-0 #1 in offense #1 in defense #1 scoring defense in the country only to see a Oklahoma team get slaughtered by USC. Take your pie in the sky attitude about Auburn and college athletics in general and stick it where the sun doesnt shine. Oh yes, once again nice calls on Huskies and UCF ML's
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#10
Quote Originally Posted by SashimiKid:
Both offenses were off, both defenses took advantage of that. Dont blame Auburn because Oregons play calling inside the 5 yard line was horrendous. By the way, 90 percent of major D1 schools are shady as hell because the $$$ are astronomical if they hit the jackpot along with the prestige of winning a BCS bowl. This game was also redemption for AU fans and grads going back to 2004 , you remember them right? 13-0 #1 in offense #1 in defense #1 scoring defense in the country only to see a Oklahoma team get slaughtered by USC. Take your pie in the sky attitude about Auburn and college athletics in general and stick it where the sun doesnt shine. Oh yes, once again nice calls on Huskies and UCF ML's
Both offenses were off, both defenses took advantage of that. Dont blame Auburn because Oregons play calling inside the 5 yard line was horrendous. By the way, 90 percent of major D1 schools are shady as hell because the $$$ are astronomical if they hit the jackpot along with the prestige of winning a BCS bowl. This game was also redemption for AU fans and grads going back to 2004 , you remember them right? 13-0 #1 in offense #1 in defense #1 scoring defense in the country only to see a Oklahoma team get slaughtered by USC. Take your pie in the sky attitude about Auburn and college athletics in general and stick it where the sun doesnt shine. Oh yes, once again nice calls on Huskies and UCF ML's
I agree that the game was there for the taking..........neither team was real impressive & Auburn got 1 more break than did oregon.......so they are the champs.
2004 auburn was not #1 in offense........maybe top 20.......& they played a joke of an OOC schedule that year, which is what kept them out of the race.
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Quote Originally Posted by Kaufee:
I disagree completely with Shep. Auburn was clearly the better team. Maybe they aren't the best team in the country, but they were the better team Monday night. The completely shut down what Oregon does best (run the ball). That was their game plan and it worked, ala National Champs. How can you guys not respect that?
I disagree completely with Shep. Auburn was clearly the better team. Maybe they aren't the best team in the country, but they were the better team Monday night. The completely shut down what Oregon does best (run the ball). That was their game plan and it worked, ala National Champs. How can you guys not respect that?
i'm not saying Auburn wasn't the better team Monday night...... not really the point. all i'm saying is that, for a national champion, they are very weak. i think the stars aligned to get them into this game, and then they aligned again for them to win it. think about the first half. Auburn's first TD came 1 play after what appeared to be a very clear interception..... i recorded the game, and watched the play many times. at no point did the DB ever show that he didn't control the ball. i believe the only reason it wasn't overturned is because the refs couldn't be sure that it was controlled, but if it had been ruled correctly on the field, it could not have been over-turned in that case, either. the next play, Auburn puts up 7. later, Oregon holds them at the goalline, then gets off their goalline with a nice shovel pass, but an illegal shift puts it back on the goalline. that illegal shift was a monumental play, and i would argue the single most important play of the game...... it led directly to 9 points, stole Oregon's momentum, and allowed Auburn's defense to stay on the sideline and rest, instead of possibly enduring a 99 yard game-ending drive (and it would have ended the game, because it would have absolutely finished Auburn's defense for the rest of the game)...... so that's 16 points that at best should have been 3 points (if AU had kicked a FG instead of going for it on 4th and 1 at the goalline).
say what you want about Auburn dictating things; they did not force that illegal shift. and that was the turning point in the ball game.
like i said, they got about every break a team can get to win that game...... and it harkens back to the Alabama game, where the same fortuitous breaks all went Auburn's way. Alabama left something like 24 points on the board while in the redzone, 17 in the first half alone.
Auburn gets the national championship because we don't have a tourney to decide a legitimate one (like Sashimi said), but they are not a championship caliber team, from everything i saw this year.
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#13
Quote Originally Posted by Kaufee:
I disagree completely with Shep. Auburn was clearly the better team. Maybe they aren't the best team in the country, but they were the better team Monday night. The completely shut down what Oregon does best (run the ball). That was their game plan and it worked, ala National Champs. How can you guys not respect that?
I disagree completely with Shep. Auburn was clearly the better team. Maybe they aren't the best team in the country, but they were the better team Monday night. The completely shut down what Oregon does best (run the ball). That was their game plan and it worked, ala National Champs. How can you guys not respect that?
Auburn WON. Get over it all you Duck fans
Coulda, wouldas, shoulda, poor refereeing. Redemption
Auburn did get screwed after going undefeated recently
Uncharacteristic sloppy, poorly played BCS final YEARNS for a PLAYOFF
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#14
Quote Originally Posted by shep99:
i'm not saying Auburn wasn't the better team Monday night...... not really the point. all i'm saying is that, for a national champion, they are very weak. i think the stars aligned to get them into this game, and then they aligned again for them to win it. think about the first half. Auburn's first TD came 1 play after what appeared to be a very clear interception..... i recorded the game, and watched the play many times. at no point did the DB ever show that he didn't control the ball. i believe the only reason it wasn't overturned is because the refs couldn't be sure that it was controlled, but if it had been ruled correctly on the field, it could not have been over-turned in that case, either. the next play, Auburn puts up 7. later, Oregon holds them at the goalline, then gets off their goalline with a nice shovel pass, but an illegal shift puts it back on the goalline. that illegal shift was a monumental play, and i would argue the single most important play of the game...... it led directly to 9 points, stole Oregon's momentum, and allowed Auburn's defense to stay on the sideline and rest, instead of possibly enduring a 99 yard game-ending drive (and it would have ended the game, because it would have absolutely finished Auburn's defense for the rest of the game)...... so that's 16 points that at best should have been 3 points (if AU had kicked a FG instead of going for it on 4th and 1 at the goalline).
say what you want about Auburn dictating things; they did not force that illegal shift. and that was the turning point in the ball game.
like i said, they got about every break a team can get to win that game...... and it harkens back to the Alabama game, where the same fortuitous breaks all went Auburn's way. Alabama left something like 24 points on the board while in the redzone, 17 in the first half alone.
Auburn gets the national championship because we don't have a tourney to decide a legitimate one (like Sashimi said), but they are not a championship caliber team, from everything i saw this year.
i'm not saying Auburn wasn't the better team Monday night...... not really the point. all i'm saying is that, for a national champion, they are very weak. i think the stars aligned to get them into this game, and then they aligned again for them to win it. think about the first half. Auburn's first TD came 1 play after what appeared to be a very clear interception..... i recorded the game, and watched the play many times. at no point did the DB ever show that he didn't control the ball. i believe the only reason it wasn't overturned is because the refs couldn't be sure that it was controlled, but if it had been ruled correctly on the field, it could not have been over-turned in that case, either. the next play, Auburn puts up 7. later, Oregon holds them at the goalline, then gets off their goalline with a nice shovel pass, but an illegal shift puts it back on the goalline. that illegal shift was a monumental play, and i would argue the single most important play of the game...... it led directly to 9 points, stole Oregon's momentum, and allowed Auburn's defense to stay on the sideline and rest, instead of possibly enduring a 99 yard game-ending drive (and it would have ended the game, because it would have absolutely finished Auburn's defense for the rest of the game)...... so that's 16 points that at best should have been 3 points (if AU had kicked a FG instead of going for it on 4th and 1 at the goalline).
say what you want about Auburn dictating things; they did not force that illegal shift. and that was the turning point in the ball game.
like i said, they got about every break a team can get to win that game...... and it harkens back to the Alabama game, where the same fortuitous breaks all went Auburn's way. Alabama left something like 24 points on the board while in the redzone, 17 in the first half alone.
Auburn gets the national championship because we don't have a tourney to decide a legitimate one (like Sashimi said), but they are not a championship caliber team, from everything i saw this year.
You are out of your fn mind.If you watch the replay he did not have control all the way through the play which you have to do for it to be considered a catch.The ball was clearly moving as he was flipping out of bounds.
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#15
i'm not saying Auburn wasn't the better team Monday night...... not really the point. all i'm saying is that, for a national champion, they are very weak. i think the stars aligned to get them into this game, and then they aligned again for them to win it. think about the first half. Auburn's first TD came 1 play after what appeared to be a very clear interception..... i recorded the game, and watched the play many times. at no point did the DB ever show that he didn't control the ball. i believe the only reason it wasn't overturned is because the refs couldn't be sure that it was controlled, but if it had been ruled correctly on the field, it could not have been over-turned in that case, either. the next play, Auburn puts up 7. later, Oregon holds them at the goalline, then gets off their goalline with a nice shovel pass, but an illegal shift puts it back on the goalline. that illegal shift was a monumental play, and i would argue the single most important play of the game...... it led directly to 9 points, stole Oregon's momentum, and allowed Auburn's defense to stay on the sideline and rest, instead of possibly enduring a 99 yard game-ending drive (and it would have ended the game, because it would have absolutely finished Auburn's defense for the rest of the game)...... so that's 16 points that at best should have been 3 points (if AU had kicked a FG instead of going for it on 4th and 1 at the goalline).
say what you want about Auburn dictating things; they did not force that illegal shift. and that was the turning point in the ball game.
like i said, they got about every break a team can get to win that game...... and it harkens back to the Alabama game, where the same fortuitous breaks all went Auburn's way. Alabama left something like 24 points on the board while in the redzone, 17 in the first half alone.
Auburn gets the national championship because we don't have a tourney to decide a legitimate one (like Sashimi said), but they are not a championship caliber team, from everything i saw this year.
I agree. Great play. A little "movement" and Auburn's fans are gleeful. But no juggling there and Oregon has the control of the game. Agree also that a replay would not reverse it if it were called an INT on the field.
Regarding the safety that led to 9 unanswered before the half: One play prior to that, a defensive lineman went offsides. Terrible for Oregon because his offsides meant little, and The ball would have been 4th and 5, probably a FG attempt. Would have been 11-10 Oregon and Oregon able to run with less stress and better field position.
Most people just scoreboard watch and do not see these momentum shifts and truly believe in "destiny" or "God's help" when the result is truly random.
I believe Oregon did an incredible job of limiting Cam's effectiveness. Credit Auburn for finding a stocky linebacker covering a fleet receiver. That was the one true legit TD, but again, that followed the INT "no-call."
The defensive line was overpowering for Auburn, and made it rough for Oregon's offense.
The play calling of running off tackle was playing RIGHT into Auburn's hands. There ere too many linemen up front and it was a messy slugfest. Oregon should have opened it up early and often and exploited the weaker secondary. It was Oregon arrogance to try confront a strength of an opponent.
It is a running offense, but few can run all day on Auburn.
The first series for Oregon was a tepid and fear filled 3 and out. I believe they played that way all night. The defense stepped up for Oregon and played like Champions.
The fact that all the sideline coaches were coaxing him to run while noone was looking or paying attention, is a form of cheating. Hey, the refs are leaning our way, let's take it.
Putting a microphone in front of Nick Fairley is embarrassing. The coach was classless and self serving.
The TCU coach gave an example of being a national spokesperson, after beating Wisconsin (listen to it). Texas Christian would have been a better national representative, and a better champion--on and off the field. Knowing Chris Peterson, the same can be said of Boise State.
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Putting a microphone in front of Nick Fairley is embarrassing. The coach was classless and self serving.
The TCU coach gave an example of being a national spokesperson, after beating Wisconsin (listen to it). Texas Christian would have been a better national representative, and a better champion--on and off the field. Knowing Chris Peterson, the same can be said of Boise State.
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Quote Originally Posted by Quantum_Leap:
I agree. Great play. A little "movement" and Auburn's fans are gleeful. But no juggling there and Oregon has the control of the game. Agree also that a replay would not reverse it if it were called an INT on the field.
Regarding the safety that led to 9 unanswered before the half: One play prior to that, a defensive lineman went offsides. Terrible for Oregon because his offsides meant little, and The ball would have been 4th and 5, probably a FG attempt. Would have been 11-10 Oregon and Oregon able to run with less stress and better field position.
Most people just scoreboard watch and do not see these momentum shifts and truly believe in "destiny" or "God's help" when the result is truly random.
I believe Oregon did an incredible job of limiting Cam's effectiveness. Credit Auburn for finding a stocky linebacker covering a fleet receiver. That was the one true legit TD, but again, that followed the INT "no-call."
The defensive line was overpowering for Auburn, and made it rough for Oregon's offense.
The play calling of running off tackle was playing RIGHT into Auburn's hands. There ere too many linemen up front and it was a messy slugfest. Oregon should have opened it up early and often and exploited the weaker secondary. It was Oregon arrogance to try confront a strength of an opponent.
It is a running offense, but few can run all day on Auburn.
The first series for Oregon was a tepid and fear filled 3 and out. I believe they played that way all night. The defense stepped up for Oregon and played like Champions.
The fact that all the sideline coaches were coaxing him to run while noone was looking or paying attention, is a form of cheating. Hey, the refs are leaning our way, let's take it.
Putting a microphone in front of Nick Fairley is embarrassing. The coach was classless and self serving.
The TCU coach gave an example of being a national spokesperson, after beating Wisconsin (listen to it). Texas Christian would have been a better national representative, and a better champion--on and off the field. Knowing Chris Peterson, the same can be said of Boise State.
in_the_black...... once again for those in the deaf seats! i have this game recorded! i have watched the play about a dozen times...... there is no juggling! the guy has control almost immediately, and doesn't lose the ball...... you saw the ball rolling over, but the guy was rolling over. that's why you think he didn't have control, but he did. it was secure in his hands all the way to the ground, and beyond that. there was no reason for it to be called an incompletion! stop tying to assume it was just because it wasn't over-turned. it was a bad call, and it gave Auburn 7 points.
Quantum, regarding the offsides, that was another horrible play by Oregon that i didn't even bring up, because ultimately Oregon stopped them on 4th down...... but you're right, if Oregon's DL doesn't jump offsides (inexplicably!), Auburn is forced to settle for a FG there (it was actually 4th and 10, not 4th and 5), and kickoff, and the entire safety - TD scenario is out of the picture.
for anybody to pretend that Auburn just had this all the way, and that there were no critical turning point plays on that drive that were given to Auburn (and not taken by them) is a complete farce!
please! join reality......
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Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:
Putting a microphone in front of Nick Fairley is embarrassing. The coach was classless and self serving.
The TCU coach gave an example of being a national spokesperson, after beating Wisconsin (listen to it). Texas Christian would have been a better national representative, and a better champion--on and off the field. Knowing Chris Peterson, the same can be said of Boise State.
agree 100% on both counts, and i believe either of those teams would most likely have beaten Auburn, because they are too disciplined to make the mistakes that Oregon made...... TCU's performance against Wisconsin was easily the best performance i saw from a bowl team. i was blown away at their flawless execution the entire game, on both sides of the ball.
all college football fans should be a bit disappointed that we did not crown the true national champion this year.....
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#20
Good grief! I've never seen such whining. You guys bi*ch and moan like a couple of 5 year old kids!
Give a rest already. The better team won period. Auburn played it's worst game of the season and still beat the unstoppable offense of Oregon. IF THIS, IF THAT...why don't you go back and watch your recording again and this time look for the IF's that might have gone Auburn's way that would've turned this game into the blowout that it almost was.
IF Cam doesn't fumble late in the 4th, Oregon never gets the ball back, never ties the game and Auburn moves on down for another score making it 26-11 and puts the game away.
IF Malzahn doesn't call off the dogs and start running the clock with about 8 minutes left in the game instead of just running their offense then Auburn probably scores a couple more times. And it's blowout city by Auburn.
See how this works with the IF's. For every one you point out for Oregon there is a matching one for Auburn.
Fact: Oregon finally played a defense with a talented front line that could stop their running game before it ever started. Thereby putting all the pressure on Thomas to win the game. He couldn't.
Fact: Oregon averaged 300 yds/game rushing. In the BCS game they got 75 yards rushing.
You Ducks finally face a decent (and i do mean decent not great) defense and your offense gets shut down.
Live with it. And all the BS about Auburn not being a good national representative or national spokesperson and them being classless is just that...BS. Might I just remind you about LaMichael James, the former Duck Masoli, and what about that really classy Blount that Kelly let back on the team last year. Real class there boys!
And this statement by Quantum above: "The fact that all the sideline coaches were coaxing him to run while noone was looking or paying attention, is a form of cheating. Hey, the refs are leaning our way, let's take it."
This is priceless. There was never a whistle blown. Ever hear the phrase "play until the whistle blows" in sports? I reckon you've never played sports so you wouldn't know that phrase. The play was reviewed and upheld. A legitimate play within the rules that was reviewed and upheld and Quantum wants you to believe it is "cheating"!
You guys are clueless.
Grow up already. Auburn is the National Champion. Deal with it.
Give a rest already. The better team won period. Auburn played it's worst game of the season and still beat the unstoppable offense of Oregon. IF THIS, IF THAT...why don't you go back and watch your recording again and this time look for the IF's that might have gone Auburn's way that would've turned this game into the blowout that it almost was.
IF Cam doesn't fumble late in the 4th, Oregon never gets the ball back, never ties the game and Auburn moves on down for another score making it 26-11 and puts the game away.
IF Malzahn doesn't call off the dogs and start running the clock with about 8 minutes left in the game instead of just running their offense then Auburn probably scores a couple more times. And it's blowout city by Auburn.
See how this works with the IF's. For every one you point out for Oregon there is a matching one for Auburn.
Fact: Oregon finally played a defense with a talented front line that could stop their running game before it ever started. Thereby putting all the pressure on Thomas to win the game. He couldn't.
Fact: Oregon averaged 300 yds/game rushing. In the BCS game they got 75 yards rushing.
You Ducks finally face a decent (and i do mean decent not great) defense and your offense gets shut down.
Live with it. And all the BS about Auburn not being a good national representative or national spokesperson and them being classless is just that...BS. Might I just remind you about LaMichael James, the former Duck Masoli, and what about that really classy Blount that Kelly let back on the team last year. Real class there boys!
And this statement by Quantum above: "The fact that all the sideline coaches were coaxing him to run while noone was looking or paying attention, is a form of cheating. Hey, the refs are leaning our way, let's take it."
This is priceless. There was never a whistle blown. Ever hear the phrase "play until the whistle blows" in sports? I reckon you've never played sports so you wouldn't know that phrase. The play was reviewed and upheld. A legitimate play within the rules that was reviewed and upheld and Quantum wants you to believe it is "cheating"!
You guys are clueless.
Grow up already. Auburn is the National Champion. Deal with it.
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Look...I'm not an Auburn fan. I've got no allegiance to that team at all. And what I saw was a superior Auburn team beating an inferior Oregon team.
The final score was mis-leading...IF Auburn doesn't shoot themselves in the foot, they win by double digits easily. Oops well looky there...an IF statement. You know what, Auburn DID shoot themselves in the foot several times and guess what...THEY STILL WON THE GAME!
What I saw was an Oregon team that's used to rushing for 300 yards a game stymied by the Auburn defensive line. With Oregon unable to run the football they didn't know what to do offensively.
All you are doing is playing WHAT IF games with specific plays. There were 158 plays during the game. There were 73 offensive plays by Oregon and 85 offensive plays by Auburn. If you are going to play these type games then do so with every play. NOT just the ones that would have benefited Oregon.
That is what is so asinine about your comments. You look at only a couple of plays and want to turn those couple of plays to benefit Oregon and then espouse that Oregon was the better team because those plays didn't go their way or that the Refs and Auburn somehow cheated.
And saying I don't have an argument proves what? I wasn't trying to argue. I stated a some FACTS in my previous post. Argue those facts if you think you can. All you have stated is that IF every play went Oregons way AND Auburn continued to play poorly THEN the Ducks MAY have won.
As i said before...get over it. Life moves on. The Ducks can try again next year.
The final score was mis-leading...IF Auburn doesn't shoot themselves in the foot, they win by double digits easily. Oops well looky there...an IF statement. You know what, Auburn DID shoot themselves in the foot several times and guess what...THEY STILL WON THE GAME!
What I saw was an Oregon team that's used to rushing for 300 yards a game stymied by the Auburn defensive line. With Oregon unable to run the football they didn't know what to do offensively.
All you are doing is playing WHAT IF games with specific plays. There were 158 plays during the game. There were 73 offensive plays by Oregon and 85 offensive plays by Auburn. If you are going to play these type games then do so with every play. NOT just the ones that would have benefited Oregon.
That is what is so asinine about your comments. You look at only a couple of plays and want to turn those couple of plays to benefit Oregon and then espouse that Oregon was the better team because those plays didn't go their way or that the Refs and Auburn somehow cheated.
And saying I don't have an argument proves what? I wasn't trying to argue. I stated a some FACTS in my previous post. Argue those facts if you think you can. All you have stated is that IF every play went Oregons way AND Auburn continued to play poorly THEN the Ducks MAY have won.
As i said before...get over it. Life moves on. The Ducks can try again next year.
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#25
Nick Fairley's headed for NFL millions.
Jumping a ship before it sinks.
He cannot dominate a pro-game like he can the NFL. He will learn to behave. I'm sure he is a candidate to become bored and will not excel at the next level. He enjoys the bully role.
One of nine brothers and sisters. Busy mama and papa...Guess we should all have 10 children, and surely ONE of them can make millions to cover everyone else's ass in the family.
Cam ready to jump ship? Defensive front line saved his ass this last game.
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