No you won't. If you miss the first you are down by nine. 2 point conversion gets you nothing. Think before you yell and abuse
Going for 2 there was correct
No you won't. If you miss the first you are down by nine. 2 point conversion gets you nothing. Think before you yell and abuse
No you won't. If you miss the first you are down by nine. 2 point conversion gets you nothing. Think before you yell and abuse
Team A has the ball with 5 minutes to go... they are down by 15 pts.. they score a td... now they are down by 9... you kick the extra point which is easier to do than going for a 2 point conversion... 96% success rate as opposed to 40-50%... you kick off... team b gets the ball... you are now down by 8 points. play defense and pin them in their own territory... you get the ball back... now you have no choice but to go for 2 pt conversion if you score( 40-50% success rate.).. 2 possessions is more realistic than 3 possessions if you fail the 2 point conversion... why on GODS green earth would you try a 2 point conversion that early in the game? so you now know you will need 2 more possessions(per steve spurrier)????? not very smart.. doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out you will need 2 more possessions.. so play it safe and KICK THE EXTRA POINT.. how is this difficult???
Team A has the ball with 5 minutes to go... they are down by 15 pts.. they score a td... now they are down by 9... you kick the extra point which is easier to do than going for a 2 point conversion... 96% success rate as opposed to 40-50%... you kick off... team b gets the ball... you are now down by 8 points. play defense and pin them in their own territory... you get the ball back... now you have no choice but to go for 2 pt conversion if you score( 40-50% success rate.).. 2 possessions is more realistic than 3 possessions if you fail the 2 point conversion... why on GODS green earth would you try a 2 point conversion that early in the game? so you now know you will need 2 more possessions(per steve spurrier)????? not very smart.. doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out you will need 2 more possessions.. so play it safe and KICK THE EXTRA POINT.. how is this difficult???
time is not on your side... you are at a major disadvantage.. have you ever seen an "in game Live Betting"... you know what the odds are if team A is losing by 9 with 5 minutes left.. Bookmaker had it up... it was close to 30:1 ( i don't remember the exact number)... watch the live betting... you might learn something about gambling and statistics..
time is not on your side... you are at a major disadvantage.. have you ever seen an "in game Live Betting"... you know what the odds are if team A is losing by 9 with 5 minutes left.. Bookmaker had it up... it was close to 30:1 ( i don't remember the exact number)... watch the live betting... you might learn something about gambling and statistics..
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Yes check in game betting and see if down by 9 with 5 minutes left is worse than down by 2 with 30 seconds left.
Yes check in game betting and see if down by 9 with 5 minutes left is worse than down by 2 with 30 seconds left.
I'm guessing you lost a lot on Ark state... don't bet the 401k son.. that pretty lil wife of yours will leave you if you blow the family nest.. the dog will leave too..
I'm guessing you lost a lot on Ark state... don't bet the 401k son.. that pretty lil wife of yours will leave you if you blow the family nest.. the dog will leave too..
Ok try this....
Ok try this....
I am only going to post once - I don't want to enter this debate because it looks heated and I don't have the energy. So here goes.
The original poster is 100% correct. I did not see the game last night in question - and I do not know the specifics of that particular game - but in general if you are down by 15 with enough time to react (enough time to have 2 more possessions) you should always go for 2 after the first TD.
You can talk about momentum all you want - but the plain and simple truth is that at the time you make or don't make the conversion - you know exactly what you need the rest of the game and proactively adjust your gameplan to give you a chance to win. If you wait until the second TD, you cannot do anything if you miss the 2 point conversion.
All of the intangibles like pressure and momentum are not measurable. The only thing that is tangible is the fact that as a decision maker you always want to know what the obstacles are to success as early as possible.
This has been discussed here before. It is a tough and counter-intuitive concept but it is grounded in logic.
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I am only going to post once - I don't want to enter this debate because it looks heated and I don't have the energy. So here goes.
The original poster is 100% correct. I did not see the game last night in question - and I do not know the specifics of that particular game - but in general if you are down by 15 with enough time to react (enough time to have 2 more possessions) you should always go for 2 after the first TD.
You can talk about momentum all you want - but the plain and simple truth is that at the time you make or don't make the conversion - you know exactly what you need the rest of the game and proactively adjust your gameplan to give you a chance to win. If you wait until the second TD, you cannot do anything if you miss the 2 point conversion.
All of the intangibles like pressure and momentum are not measurable. The only thing that is tangible is the fact that as a decision maker you always want to know what the obstacles are to success as early as possible.
This has been discussed here before. It is a tough and counter-intuitive concept but it is grounded in logic.
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BTW - the goal is not to "be in it" until the final play. The goal is to win the game, and to assume it doesn't matter how much you lose by if you are going to lose.
The goal is not to say afterwards "we lost but we were in it til the end" - if the goal is to win - which I am assuming it is - going for 2 on the first TD gives you the best chance to do so.
BTW - the goal is not to "be in it" until the final play. The goal is to win the game, and to assume it doesn't matter how much you lose by if you are going to lose.
The goal is not to say afterwards "we lost but we were in it til the end" - if the goal is to win - which I am assuming it is - going for 2 on the first TD gives you the best chance to do so.
Van a few problems with this game.
Van a few problems with this game.
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