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    FadeSystem NCAAF Week 11 (YTD: 70-49 +47.5u)

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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2012 - 12:12 AM ET #1

    6-2 +17.55u last week. 10 of 11 winning weeks in CFB this season.

    Early plays for this week to get out ahead of line movement:

      5u Georgia -15.5
      4u Alabama -13.5
      1u Clemson -31

    BOL.


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    6-2 +17.55u last week. 10 of 11 winning weeks in CFB this season.

    Early plays for this week to get out ahead of line movement:

      5u Georgia -15.5
      4u Alabama -13.5
      1u Clemson -31

    BOL.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2012 - 11:55 AM ET #2

    System Play:

      5u Tennessee/Missouri Over 60

    Probably will be a play on tonight's game, just waiting to see if that line moves anymore.
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    System Play:

      5u Tennessee/Missouri Over 60

    Probably will be a play on tonight's game, just waiting to see if that line moves anymore.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2012 - 2:04 PM ET #3

    Ok, got the movement I was looking for...

    System plays tonight:

      2u BG ML +110
      2u BG/Ohio Under 48.5

    BOL tonight.
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    Ok, got the movement I was looking for...

    System plays tonight:

      2u BG ML +110
      2u BG/Ohio Under 48.5

    BOL tonight.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2012 - 2:10 PM ET #4

    care to give us a little bit of info on your system so we can decide whether to tail you?

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    care to give us a little bit of info on your system so we can decide whether to tail you?

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2012 - 4:39 PM ET #5

    It's too complicated to easily explain, but basically it starts with a program that projects outcomes based on statistical matchups  crossed against public play percentage vs line movement. The weight of those three factors (plus some personal opinion/capping) determines the unit size.

    At this point in the season, statistical trends are going into account on determining plays. For example I'm not gonna play a team who is 0-7 ATS even if it's shows up as a play. UVA last week is an example of a play (that ultimately won) but I had to pass on because it was too hard to justify betting a team that bad.

    For example on the game tonight the projected outcome is 0. Meaning the game may as well be a coin flip. If the line had moved with Ohio then the play would have been Bowling Green +3.5, it moved towards BG so the play is BG ML.

    The Under play is basically because every game BG has played this year has gone Under so I'm just riding the trend. But since I've BG at +110, I've got a perfect hedge. So if I go 1-1 tonight I'll still break even cause I got past the juice.

    At the end of the day it picks winners.
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    It's too complicated to easily explain, but basically it starts with a program that projects outcomes based on statistical matchups  crossed against public play percentage vs line movement. The weight of those three factors (plus some personal opinion/capping) determines the unit size.

    At this point in the season, statistical trends are going into account on determining plays. For example I'm not gonna play a team who is 0-7 ATS even if it's shows up as a play. UVA last week is an example of a play (that ultimately won) but I had to pass on because it was too hard to justify betting a team that bad.

    For example on the game tonight the projected outcome is 0. Meaning the game may as well be a coin flip. If the line had moved with Ohio then the play would have been Bowling Green +3.5, it moved towards BG so the play is BG ML.

    The Under play is basically because every game BG has played this year has gone Under so I'm just riding the trend. But since I've BG at +110, I've got a perfect hedge. So if I go 1-1 tonight I'll still break even cause I got past the juice.

    At the end of the day it picks winners.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2012 - 4:42 PM ET #6

    I like em both, gl 
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2012 - 4:49 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by wtfe:



      2u BG ML +110
      2u BG/Ohio Under 48.5



    2-0 +4.2u so far on the week.

    There is something suspicious about this line on the FSU/VaTech game tonight. At -10, FSU is the play all the way. At -17, I probably would've said FSU (albeit for a smaller bet). But at -13 now with the line continuing to move against them? The line movement has me questioning the system projection.

    This looks like FSU is not gonna cover. But I've watched FSU play so I'm not betting against them.

    System Lean: Va Tech +13
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      2u BG ML +110
      2u BG/Ohio Under 48.5



    2-0 +4.2u so far on the week.

    There is something suspicious about this line on the FSU/VaTech game tonight. At -10, FSU is the play all the way. At -17, I probably would've said FSU (albeit for a smaller bet). But at -13 now with the line continuing to move against them? The line movement has me questioning the system projection.

    This looks like FSU is not gonna cover. But I've watched FSU play so I'm not betting against them.

    System Lean: Va Tech +13
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2012 - 11:11 AM ET #8

    System plays:

      5u Syracuse ML +105
      4u South Carolina -13.5
      3u Temple +8
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    System plays:

      5u Syracuse ML +105
      4u South Carolina -13.5
      3u Temple +8
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2012 - 11:16 AM ET #9

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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2012 - 11:25 AM ET #10

    Strong system lean on UVA -2 again this week.

    But like last week, how am I supposed to bet on a team that is 1-7 ATS and 0-4 ATS at home? Another pass...
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    Strong system lean on UVA -2 again this week.

    But like last week, how am I supposed to bet on a team that is 1-7 ATS and 0-4 ATS at home? Another pass...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2012 - 11:30 AM ET #11

    what makes they play on orangemen???

     

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    what makes they play on orangemen???

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2012 - 11:32 AM ET #12

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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2012 - 2:07 PM ET #13

    System plays:

      3u Illinois ML +135
      3u NM St. +20.5

    Early plays are gonna be a sweat.

    Mizzou somehow can't figure out how to move the ball against the worst defense in the NCAA. I knew they were bad, but didn't think they were that bad.
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    System plays:

      3u Illinois ML +135
      3u NM St. +20.5

    Early plays are gonna be a sweat.

    Mizzou somehow can't figure out how to move the ball against the worst defense in the NCAA. I knew they were bad, but didn't think they were that bad.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2012 - 2:16 PM ET #14

    over for bama vs aggies?
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2012 - 2:38 PM ET #15

    any afternoon games? 
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2012 - 5:45 PM ET #16

    I messed up on that NM St. play. It shouldn't have been a play, I overlooked at SJS's road record, which happens to be 5-0 ATS. I saw it, but it didn't register for some reason. Oh well.

    Here's the rest of the system plays:

      5u Utah -1
      4u La Tech -19
      3u Tulane ML +105
      3u Hawaii +28

    System lean on TCU +6.5, but I'm not betting against a team that is 7-1 ATS.
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    I messed up on that NM St. play. It shouldn't have been a play, I overlooked at SJS's road record, which happens to be 5-0 ATS. I saw it, but it didn't register for some reason. Oh well.

    Here's the rest of the system plays:

      5u Utah -1
      4u La Tech -19
      3u Tulane ML +105
      3u Hawaii +28

    System lean on TCU +6.5, but I'm not betting against a team that is 7-1 ATS.
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