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    Death of T'eo's GF a hoax!!?

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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2013 - 12:07 AM ET #126

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:



    Where did I say someone was defrauded out of money???  I didn't.  I said "IF" someone was defrauded out of money.

    We know memorial funds were set up for a girl who never existed, and people gave money to those memorial funds.  I have no clue who got the money, or where that money went.  It may very well be that no crime was committed, but the possibility certainly exists.

    That said, it is a stone cold lock that Ta'o isn't going to be drafted anywhere near the 1st round of the NFL draft.



    For what it is worth -- this is not exactly what is said in post #116.  
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    Where did I say someone was defrauded out of money???  I didn't.  I said "IF" someone was defrauded out of money.

    We know memorial funds were set up for a girl who never existed, and people gave money to those memorial funds.  I have no clue who got the money, or where that money went.  It may very well be that no crime was committed, but the possibility certainly exists.

    That said, it is a stone cold lock that Ta'o isn't going to be drafted anywhere near the 1st round of the NFL draft.



    For what it is worth -- this is not exactly what is said in post #116.  
     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2013 - 1:49 AM ET #127

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:



    Last I checked, defrauding people out of money was a crime.



    i agree with mattbrot and i also agree with myself that no criminal charge will be brought, however this does not rule out a civil action.

    (yes i have a passion and have taken many legal courses)

    what you said was pretty matter of fact, a definitive statement that fraudulent activity occurred.  

    you did not under any circumstance use the word "if".
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:



    Last I checked, defrauding people out of money was a crime.



    i agree with mattbrot and i also agree with myself that no criminal charge will be brought, however this does not rule out a civil action.

    (yes i have a passion and have taken many legal courses)

    what you said was pretty matter of fact, a definitive statement that fraudulent activity occurred.  

    you did not under any circumstance use the word "if".
     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2013 - 2:26 AM ET #128

    That's because both of you have reading sub-6th grade reading comprehension.  What I said was "IF it comes out he is q.u.e.e.r. as a 3-dollar bill, or there are criminal charges filed against him."  The IF is a condition applies to both sides of the conjunction.
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    That's because both of you have reading sub-6th grade reading comprehension.  What I said was "IF it comes out he is q.u.e.e.r. as a 3-dollar bill, or there are criminal charges filed against him."  The IF is a condition applies to both sides of the conjunction.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2013 - 2:48 AM ET #129

    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:


    For what it is worth -- this is not exactly what is said in post #116.  


    That's because post #116 is not where the issue was addressed.  The issue was addressed in post #101.  Post #116 does not mention Manti Ta'o.  It is a simple statement of fact which is that "defrauding people out of money is a crime."  You can either agree or disagree with that statement.  If you disagree then I suggest you go out and defraud some people out of their money and see what happens to you.  You will find out the hard way that it is indeed a crime.

    Again, IF a prosecutor finds that Manti Ta'o defrauded people out of their money, and right now no one has a clue whether he did or didn't, then he will almost assuredly be prosecuted for a crime.  The possibly certainly exists.

    It is also a crime in some states to usurp someone's identity online.  That is another angle prosecutors are sure to take a look at.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:


    For what it is worth -- this is not exactly what is said in post #116.  


    That's because post #116 is not where the issue was addressed.  The issue was addressed in post #101.  Post #116 does not mention Manti Ta'o.  It is a simple statement of fact which is that "defrauding people out of money is a crime."  You can either agree or disagree with that statement.  If you disagree then I suggest you go out and defraud some people out of their money and see what happens to you.  You will find out the hard way that it is indeed a crime.

    Again, IF a prosecutor finds that Manti Ta'o defrauded people out of their money, and right now no one has a clue whether he did or didn't, then he will almost assuredly be prosecuted for a crime.  The possibly certainly exists.

    It is also a crime in some states to usurp someone's identity online.  That is another angle prosecutors are sure to take a look at.


     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2013 - 3:08 AM ET #130

    Manti Te'o is not mentally stable.

    He is also a coward. He knew what was waiting for him in the BCS Championship and therefore folded his hand.




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    Manti Te'o is not mentally stable.

    He is also a coward. He knew what was waiting for him in the BCS Championship and therefore folded his hand.




     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2013 - 6:32 AM ET #131

    It is obvious Te'o knew because why would he tell the parents of a dying cancer patient that he experienced the same thing with his dead gf and other children at St Judes Hospital? The guy is a sick sociopath who loves to lie for attention. His teammates say the same thing and they know him best.
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    It is obvious Te'o knew because why would he tell the parents of a dying cancer patient that he experienced the same thing with his dead gf and other children at St Judes Hospital? The guy is a sick sociopath who loves to lie for attention. His teammates say the same thing and they know him best.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2013 - 7:04 AM ET #132

    So we have come up with 3 plausible reasons and some possible consequenses!

    1) He is G A Y

    2) He is Bi-Polar or has a mental condition?

    3) He was fooled

    Possible Consequenses

    1) None

    2) Not be drafted in the first round

    3) Not be drafted at all??

    4) ND losses some players due to this??

    What % of NFL Players do you think are G A Y ?? I would say around 2-3%!!!??

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    So we have come up with 3 plausible reasons and some possible consequenses!

    1) He is G A Y

    2) He is Bi-Polar or has a mental condition?

    3) He was fooled

    Possible Consequenses

    1) None

    2) Not be drafted in the first round

    3) Not be drafted at all??

    4) ND losses some players due to this??

    What % of NFL Players do you think are G A Y ?? I would say around 2-3%!!!??

     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2013 - 9:02 AM ET #133

    The real hoax is that Te'o isn't even a real linebacker.

    Alabama exposed that  

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    The real hoax is that Te'o isn't even a real linebacker.

    Alabama exposed that  

     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2013 - 9:57 AM ET #134

    Quote Originally Posted by gridironguy:


    Jimmy you are wrong. NO WAY he does not get drafted and only a slight chance he does not get drafted FIRST RD,

    NFL teams will overlook character flaws if the tangibles like forty times, bench pressing, etc, are there.

    Manti has the prototype tangibles of a MLB in the NFL,

    he will absolutely get drafted, and higher than you think.

    i will be STUNNED if he drops out of the 1st round,

    he will explain this in his interviews with NFL teams at the combine, and at least ONE TEAM will take a chance on a talent like him

     

    I doubt he would be drafted in first round. It's not that NFL teams are rightoueness or moral, it's all about the "image". From an emotional standpoint, it's muvh worse than drafting a DWI, drug offender if it's proven he has any part of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gridironguy:


    Jimmy you are wrong. NO WAY he does not get drafted and only a slight chance he does not get drafted FIRST RD,

    NFL teams will overlook character flaws if the tangibles like forty times, bench pressing, etc, are there.

    Manti has the prototype tangibles of a MLB in the NFL,

    he will absolutely get drafted, and higher than you think.

    i will be STUNNED if he drops out of the 1st round,

    he will explain this in his interviews with NFL teams at the combine, and at least ONE TEAM will take a chance on a talent like him

     

    I doubt he would be drafted in first round. It's not that NFL teams are rightoueness or moral, it's all about the "image". From an emotional standpoint, it's muvh worse than drafting a DWI, drug offender if it's proven he has any part of it.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2013 - 11:03 AM ET #135

    His "character" issues aside, If he doesnt run a 4.5 and bench 400, he could very well tumble out of 1st round. 
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    His "character" issues aside, If he doesnt run a 4.5 and bench 400, he could very well tumble out of 1st round. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by boostyourego:

    His "character" issues aside, If he doesnt run a 4.5 and bench 400, he could very well tumble out of 1st round. 



    They don't care if he can bench 400#. The measurement used
    is number of reps at 225 #.
    Helping Kama'aina to beat their " Local " since 1994.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boostyourego:

    His "character" issues aside, If he doesnt run a 4.5 and bench 400, he could very well tumble out of 1st round. 



    They don't care if he can bench 400#. The measurement used
    is number of reps at 225 #.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2013 - 1:10 PM ET #137

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:



    Where did I say someone was defrauded out of money???  I didn't.  I said "IF" someone was defrauded out of money.

    We know memorial funds were set up for a girl who never existed, and people gave money to those memorial funds.  I have no clue who got the money, or where that money went.  It may very well be that no crime was committed, but the possibility certainly exists.

    That said, it is a stone cold lock that Ta'o isn't going to be drafted anywhere near the 1st round of the NFL draft.




    You never know, this incident probably moved T'eo up on the NY Jet's draft board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:



    Where did I say someone was defrauded out of money???  I didn't.  I said "IF" someone was defrauded out of money.

    We know memorial funds were set up for a girl who never existed, and people gave money to those memorial funds.  I have no clue who got the money, or where that money went.  It may very well be that no crime was committed, but the possibility certainly exists.

    That said, it is a stone cold lock that Ta'o isn't going to be drafted anywhere near the 1st round of the NFL draft.




    You never know, this incident probably moved T'eo up on the NY Jet's draft board.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2013 - 1:22 PM ET #138

    Quote Originally Posted by Laroja:



    You never know, this incident probably moved T'eo up on the NY Jet's draft board.


    . . . and probably the Raiders!!! 


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    Quote Originally Posted by Laroja:



    You never know, this incident probably moved T'eo up on the NY Jet's draft board.


    . . . and probably the Raiders!!! 


     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2013 - 1:33 PM ET #139

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:



    . . . and probably the Raiders!!! 






    Helping Kama'aina to beat their " Local " since 1994.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:



    . . . and probably the Raiders!!! 






     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2013 - 1:56 PM ET #140

    Breaking news: Tim Tebow has been demoted another spot on the Jet' QB chart. Behind Sanchez, Mcelroy, and Teo' nonexistent GF.
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    Breaking news: Tim Tebow has been demoted another spot on the Jet' QB chart. Behind Sanchez, Mcelroy, and Teo' nonexistent GF.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by gridironguy:

    why don't we wait until we know all of the "facts".  maybe it's true he was the victim of the hoax, not compliant in it.

    btw, i can see why he liked this supposed girlfriend, she was/is fukking beautiful:

    https://www.rightentertainment.com/?p=7821

    and there goes the idiot with 32 years of "eating, breathing and sleeping college football" who fell for this hoax worse than espn did.  he STILL thinks this chick was his girlfriend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gridironguy:

    why don't we wait until we know all of the "facts".  maybe it's true he was the victim of the hoax, not compliant in it.

    btw, i can see why he liked this supposed girlfriend, she was/is fukking beautiful:

    https://www.rightentertainment.com/?p=7821

    and there goes the idiot with 32 years of "eating, breathing and sleeping college football" who fell for this hoax worse than espn did.  he STILL thinks this chick was his girlfriend.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by speak2truth:

    and there goes the idiot with 32 years of "eating, breathing and sleeping college football" who fell for this hoax worse than espn did.  he STILL thinks this chick was his girlfriend.


    i am so in your head it is beautiful!!!

    nice to have a secret admirer, errrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, internet stalking troll  

    p.s. college football is my life babeeeeeeeeeeeee
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    Quote Originally Posted by speak2truth:

    and there goes the idiot with 32 years of "eating, breathing and sleeping college football" who fell for this hoax worse than espn did.  he STILL thinks this chick was his girlfriend.


    i am so in your head it is beautiful!!!

    nice to have a secret admirer, errrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, internet stalking troll  

    p.s. college football is my life babeeeeeeeeeeeee
     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2013 - 6:04 PM ET #143

    BREAKING NEWS: https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/manti-te-o-might-had-real-girlfriend-215133271--ncaaf.html


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    BREAKING NEWS: https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/manti-te-o-might-had-real-girlfriend-215133271--ncaaf.html


     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2013 - 8:01 PM ET #144

    Quote Originally Posted by gridironguy:

    why don't we wait until we know all of the "facts".  maybe it's true he was the victim of the hoax, not compliant in it.

    btw, i can see why he liked this supposed girlfriend, she was/is fukking beautiful:

    https://www.rightentertainment.com/?p=7821

    potential egg over lots of folks faces in this thread and i am not talking about myself  

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    Quote Originally Posted by gridironguy:

    why don't we wait until we know all of the "facts".  maybe it's true he was the victim of the hoax, not compliant in it.

    btw, i can see why he liked this supposed girlfriend, she was/is fukking beautiful:

    https://www.rightentertainment.com/?p=7821

    potential egg over lots of folks faces in this thread and i am not talking about myself  

     
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    Te'o told Notre Dame officials that he received a phone call on Dec. 6, while in attendance at an ESPN awards show in Orlando, from a number he recognized as having been that he associated with Kekua. The woman on the line during that phone call told Te'o she had had to fake her own death in order to elude drug dealers, the Honolulu Star-Advertiser reports, citing a source close to Te'o's family. The woman then tried to restart her relationship with Te'o.

    Te'o asked for a photo with a date stamp to verify her identity, the paper reports, but wasn't convinced and then went to his family and school officials to describe the hoax.

    At the Heisman Trophy presentation Dec. 8 in New York, ESPN's Chris Fowler asked Te'o what moment of his very public story of tragedy he would remember.

    "I think I'll never forget the time when I found out that, you know, my girlfriend passed away and the first person to run to my aid was my defensive coordinator, Coach [Bob] Diaco, and you know he said something very profound to me," Te'o said. "He said, 'This is where your faith is tested.' Right after that, I ran into the players' lounge and I got on the phone with my parents -- and I opened my eyes and my head coach was sitting right there. And so, you know, there are a hundred-plus people on our team and the defensive coordinator and our head coach took time to just go get one (of those players). You know I think that was the most meaningful to me."

    Te'o also said on ESPN Radio the same day that he hoped his grandmother, who died Sept. 12, and his girlfriend, who was reported to have died on the same day, were proud of him.

    The Associated Press turned up two more instances during that gap between Dec. 6 and Dec. 26, the date when Te'o told Notre Dame that he knew of the hoax, when the football star mentioned Kekua in public.

    During another interview at the Heisman ceremony that ran on WSBT.com, the website for a South Bend TV station, Te'o said: "I mean, I don't like cancer at all. I lost both my grandparents and my girlfriend to cancer. So I've really tried to go to children's hospitals and see, you know, children."

    In a column that first ran in The Los Angeles Times, on Dec. 10, Te'o recounted why he played a few days after he found out Kekua died in September, and the day she was supposedly buried.

    "She made me promise, when it happened, that I would stay and play," he said Dec. 9 while attending a ceremony in Newport Beach, Calif., for the Lott Impact Awards.

    Meanwhile, on Friday an adviser to Te'o told ESPN's Jeremy Schaap that the linebacker has been huddling this morning with family members and a team of advisers, who are trying to determine the best way for him to address the controversy. The adviser, who has been part of the discussions, also said all of the advisers are thoroughly convinced that Te'o is telling the truth in saying that he was a victim of a hoax.

    They are encouraged, too, by the fact that several people have come forward defending and supporting Te'o. The thing most upsetting to Te'o, his adviser said, is that his relatives were also victimized by the hoax and are now suffering because of it.

    Te'o's Notre Dame family is also suffering. Doubts about his participation in the scam extend to the campus, where he is one of the most popular players in Notre Dame's storied history.


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    Te'o told Notre Dame officials that he received a phone call on Dec. 6, while in attendance at an ESPN awards show in Orlando, from a number he recognized as having been that he associated with Kekua. The woman on the line during that phone call told Te'o she had had to fake her own death in order to elude drug dealers, the Honolulu Star-Advertiser reports, citing a source close to Te'o's family. The woman then tried to restart her relationship with Te'o.

    Te'o asked for a photo with a date stamp to verify her identity, the paper reports, but wasn't convinced and then went to his family and school officials to describe the hoax.

    At the Heisman Trophy presentation Dec. 8 in New York, ESPN's Chris Fowler asked Te'o what moment of his very public story of tragedy he would remember.

    "I think I'll never forget the time when I found out that, you know, my girlfriend passed away and the first person to run to my aid was my defensive coordinator, Coach [Bob] Diaco, and you know he said something very profound to me," Te'o said. "He said, 'This is where your faith is tested.' Right after that, I ran into the players' lounge and I got on the phone with my parents -- and I opened my eyes and my head coach was sitting right there. And so, you know, there are a hundred-plus people on our team and the defensive coordinator and our head coach took time to just go get one (of those players). You know I think that was the most meaningful to me."

    Te'o also said on ESPN Radio the same day that he hoped his grandmother, who died Sept. 12, and his girlfriend, who was reported to have died on the same day, were proud of him.

    The Associated Press turned up two more instances during that gap between Dec. 6 and Dec. 26, the date when Te'o told Notre Dame that he knew of the hoax, when the football star mentioned Kekua in public.

    During another interview at the Heisman ceremony that ran on WSBT.com, the website for a South Bend TV station, Te'o said: "I mean, I don't like cancer at all. I lost both my grandparents and my girlfriend to cancer. So I've really tried to go to children's hospitals and see, you know, children."

    In a column that first ran in The Los Angeles Times, on Dec. 10, Te'o recounted why he played a few days after he found out Kekua died in September, and the day she was supposedly buried.

    "She made me promise, when it happened, that I would stay and play," he said Dec. 9 while attending a ceremony in Newport Beach, Calif., for the Lott Impact Awards.

    Meanwhile, on Friday an adviser to Te'o told ESPN's Jeremy Schaap that the linebacker has been huddling this morning with family members and a team of advisers, who are trying to determine the best way for him to address the controversy. The adviser, who has been part of the discussions, also said all of the advisers are thoroughly convinced that Te'o is telling the truth in saying that he was a victim of a hoax.

    They are encouraged, too, by the fact that several people have come forward defending and supporting Te'o. The thing most upsetting to Te'o, his adviser said, is that his relatives were also victimized by the hoax and are now suffering because of it.

    Te'o's Notre Dame family is also suffering. Doubts about his participation in the scam extend to the campus, where he is one of the most popular players in Notre Dame's storied history.


     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2013 - 5:05 AM ET #146

    Quote Originally Posted by Capper007:

    Why is this even a story...im still so confused...how does this relate to football?? Did ND cover something up?? Why is this on CNN, ESPN, ESPN2, FSN, HLN??

    so he had an online relationship for 3 years..and didnt see her when she is dying?

    LUCK OF THE IRISH!!

    He got fooled; i still dont understand the uproar??? In the beggining either he was a liar or he got fooled.....im sticking to my original thought on this...why was this a HUGE story?? Felt like Penn st take 2!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capper007:

    Why is this even a story...im still so confused...how does this relate to football?? Did ND cover something up?? Why is this on CNN, ESPN, ESPN2, FSN, HLN??

    so he had an online relationship for 3 years..and didnt see her when she is dying?

    LUCK OF THE IRISH!!

    He got fooled; i still dont understand the uproar??? In the beggining either he was a liar or he got fooled.....im sticking to my original thought on this...why was this a HUGE story?? Felt like Penn st take 2!!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2013 - 5:41 AM ET #147

    Capper have i not explained this?  THE WHOLE COUNTRY WAS RIVETED TO ND AND THE STORY OF THEIR BELOVED MIDDLE LB,

    to find out it was all a hoax pissed the country and even the world off,

    if every news station has covered it, and i am explaining why its a huge story, should you not figure it out by now??

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    Capper have i not explained this?  THE WHOLE COUNTRY WAS RIVETED TO ND AND THE STORY OF THEIR BELOVED MIDDLE LB,

    to find out it was all a hoax pissed the country and even the world off,

    if every news station has covered it, and i am explaining why its a huge story, should you not figure it out by now??

     
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    Katie Couric will have the first televised interview with Manti Te'o, the All-American linebacker who has claimed to be the victim of an elaborate "catfishing" hoax. Couric's interview with Te'o and his parents, Brian and Ottilia, will air Thursday on "Katie," Couric's syndicated talk show that premiered in September.


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    Katie Couric will have the first televised interview with Manti Te'o, the All-American linebacker who has claimed to be the victim of an elaborate "catfishing" hoax. Couric's interview with Te'o and his parents, Brian and Ottilia, will air Thursday on "Katie," Couric's syndicated talk show that premiered in September.


     
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    I thought Te'o looked liked sh*t during the BCS championship. Gil Brandt tweeted the same. Now we know why.
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    I thought Te'o looked liked sh*t during the BCS championship. Gil Brandt tweeted the same. Now we know why.
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2013 - 7:28 AM ET #150

    Sorry gridiron,

    But his being naive and an idiot doesnt make me care about the story whatsoever! (you may??) He is Naive! So What....or even if he is a pathelogical liar..so what??? I coudnt give 2 sh its about the ga y te'!!!!

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    Sorry gridiron,

    But his being naive and an idiot doesnt make me care about the story whatsoever! (you may??) He is Naive! So What....or even if he is a pathelogical liar..so what??? I coudnt give 2 sh its about the ga y te'!!!!

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