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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2019 - 6:33 PM ET #126

    Quote Originally Posted by nieldellacroce:

    Looking at UOP vs agga.  Kind of hard to cover back to back 25+ spreads...not a play yet but considering Pacific 


    Click on Gonzaga.....click on past results.....and have a gander at what Zags are doing to teams that they play way lower rated than them. They cannot slip up in their conference if they want a top seed with this team.....one of them or STM or BYU  do not get to go to the big dance so most years so they are full on go mode every game until the Conference tourney

    Zags were beating a lot of good teams with their lineup in the non-conference sched and sometime by a lot.....now when they play a 150-250 rank team, they beat them by 30-40 pts...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nieldellacroce:

    Looking at UOP vs agga.  Kind of hard to cover back to back 25+ spreads...not a play yet but considering Pacific 


    Click on Gonzaga.....click on past results.....and have a gander at what Zags are doing to teams that they play way lower rated than them. They cannot slip up in their conference if they want a top seed with this team.....one of them or STM or BYU  do not get to go to the big dance so most years so they are full on go mode every game until the Conference tourney

    Zags were beating a lot of good teams with their lineup in the non-conference sched and sometime by a lot.....now when they play a 150-250 rank team, they beat them by 30-40 pts...

    I like this line but I am watching instead
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2019 - 9:07 PM ET #127

    Great home dogs continue to pad my bank account....

    Evansville is in my Top 10 home dogs or faves with right situation year in and year out....

    Tulsa coming through tonight as well ....they are there in the Top 10

    Some others to keep an eye on regardless of team strength in opponent:

    Northern Iowa
    Indiana St.
    Denver
    Boise St.
    South Florida
    Indiana
    Iowa
    Santa Clara
    Wright St. 
    Kent St.
    Illinois St.
    Drake
    BYU
    Arizona St.
    New Mexico St.
    Vanderbilt
    Wofford


    OTHERS......
    California....most yrs....not this year
    Kansas St/TCU....can vary from year to year but usually
    Rhode Island most years
    St Bonnaventure 
    Miami
    Iowa St/Texas/Baylor/WVU/Seton Hall/St. Johns/Butler/Oregon St./.Penn St/UCLA/Alabama/Georgia....but  Vegas is more onto these now

    LOOKS LIKE TULSA IN OT as I type this....

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    Great home dogs continue to pad my bank account....

    Evansville is in my Top 10 home dogs or faves with right situation year in and year out....

    Tulsa coming through tonight as well ....they are there in the Top 10

    Some others to keep an eye on regardless of team strength in opponent:

    Northern Iowa
    Indiana St.
    Denver
    Boise St.
    South Florida
    Indiana
    Iowa
    Santa Clara
    Wright St. 
    Kent St.
    Illinois St.
    Drake
    BYU
    Arizona St.
    New Mexico St.
    Vanderbilt
    Wofford


    OTHERS......
    California....most yrs....not this year
    Kansas St/TCU....can vary from year to year but usually
    Rhode Island most years
    St Bonnaventure 
    Miami
    Iowa St/Texas/Baylor/WVU/Seton Hall/St. Johns/Butler/Oregon St./.Penn St/UCLA/Alabama/Georgia....but  Vegas is more onto these now

    LOOKS LIKE TULSA IN OT as I type this....

     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2019 - 4:07 AM ET #128

    Your list of teams is when they're home dogs only right? Because a lot of those team are really overrated and are usually favorites
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    Your list of teams is when they're home dogs only right? Because a lot of those team are really overrated and are usually favorites
     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2019 - 4:16 AM ET #129

    I went 8-3  +10.7*. Top 4 plays all came in. Took another bad beat on Tulsa-Cincy Under in ot. It was good by 18 in regulation. Went over by 1 real late.That's 3 bad beats in 2 nights. I should be on SVP. 
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    I went 8-3  +10.7*. Top 4 plays all came in. Took another bad beat on Tulsa-Cincy Under in ot. It was good by 18 in regulation. Went over by 1 real late.That's 3 bad beats in 2 nights. I should be on SVP. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2019 - 5:45 AM ET #130

    1* MD -5 to Indiana
    1* Wiscy -3 to Purdue
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    1* MD -5 to Indiana
    1* Wiscy -3 to Purdue
     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2019 - 11:26 AM ET #131

    Thirsty

    Whoever is moving these totals and driving them up or down 5-10 points, even 11 points on a few, is really dialed in. I played against a couple of them and got burnt, I figured the BM couldn't be that far off at this point and respected the original impost and I lost. Some of them I was originally liking the same way they did but was waiting, hoping to get a better #. Next thing I know they have moved a bunch the wrong way for my play. So if you stay with your play you get the worst end of the price and are now playing a fracked (pc) #.

    I've got some of them wrote down somewhere. I can't remember them all off the top of my head but a few come to mind. Texas-Ok St Tuesday went from 137 to 127 and ended up 61-58. Buffalo-Toledo went from 153 to 159 and it sailed over. Wyoming-SD St went from 146 to 135 and ended up 84-54. Temple-Houston went from 139 to 148.5, Bandit was watching the line move, sent me a message to play it under, it went over. StL-UMass went from 138 to 132, ended up 62-65, etc, etc. 
    Whoever these cats are they are sharper than a serpents tooth. They either have an acute understanding of the styles in the matchup and whose going to get their tempo or they have an algorithm from hello, or both.

    I was checking Wiscy's total tonight fairly regularly hoping it might get played up a bit with Purdue backers.Soon as it dropped to 137 I fired. It was dropping like a rock right after that. All I know is these cats are hitting at a high %.

    1* Wiscy-Purdue under 137

    There are several technical trends for both teams that point to an under. I believe the style and physical matchups on the floor will support these trends.

    Ttyl


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    Whoever is moving these totals and driving them up or down 5-10 points, even 11 points on a few, is really dialed in. I played against a couple of them and got burnt, I figured the BM couldn't be that far off at this point and respected the original impost and I lost. Some of them I was originally liking the same way they did but was waiting, hoping to get a better #. Next thing I know they have moved a bunch the wrong way for my play. So if you stay with your play you get the worst end of the price and are now playing a fracked (pc) #.

    I've got some of them wrote down somewhere. I can't remember them all off the top of my head but a few come to mind. Texas-Ok St Tuesday went from 137 to 127 and ended up 61-58. Buffalo-Toledo went from 153 to 159 and it sailed over. Wyoming-SD St went from 146 to 135 and ended up 84-54. Temple-Houston went from 139 to 148.5, Bandit was watching the line move, sent me a message to play it under, it went over. StL-UMass went from 138 to 132, ended up 62-65, etc, etc. 
    Whoever these cats are they are sharper than a serpents tooth. They either have an acute understanding of the styles in the matchup and whose going to get their tempo or they have an algorithm from hello, or both.

    I was checking Wiscy's total tonight fairly regularly hoping it might get played up a bit with Purdue backers.Soon as it dropped to 137 I fired. It was dropping like a rock right after that. All I know is these cats are hitting at a high %.

    1* Wiscy-Purdue under 137

    There are several technical trends for both teams that point to an under. I believe the style and physical matchups on the floor will support these trends.

    Ttyl


     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2019 - 11:38 AM ET #132

    Showing 132.5 at youwager...looks like you are on to something. Time of year lends itself well to expertise. Conference play kicking off, out of the break.

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    Showing 132.5 at youwager...looks like you are on to something. Time of year lends itself well to expertise. Conference play kicking off, out of the break.

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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2019 - 11:46 AM ET #133

    I went ahead and took it at 133.5.   Under still good at that number you think?

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    I went ahead and took it at 133.5.   Under still good at that number you think?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2019 - 1:23 PM ET #134

    Shhhhhhh!!!!!  Don't let everyone know about my Broncos up in Santa Clara....Herb Sendek is imo a very good coach (he was savvy enough to pull James Harden out of So Cal to ASU) and gets some nice players to stay near home.  It also doesn't hurt that Santa Clara is consistently in the Top 5 in the rankings of the hottest coeds on campus.

    Nice little cover last night against the Waves!

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    Shhhhhhh!!!!!  Don't let everyone know about my Broncos up in Santa Clara....Herb Sendek is imo a very good coach (he was savvy enough to pull James Harden out of So Cal to ASU) and gets some nice players to stay near home.  It also doesn't hurt that Santa Clara is consistently in the Top 5 in the rankings of the hottest coeds on campus.

    Nice little cover last night against the Waves!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2019 - 3:36 PM ET #135

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    I would play it Under or pass. That's my opinion.
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    I would play it Under or pass. That's my opinion.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2019 - 3:53 PM ET #136

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    Ol' Herbie did pretty good in Raleigh for the Wolfpack too. Had a lot of success there. Took them to the Big Dance regularly, won a Conference Tourney, was ACC coach of the year once.
    He recruited ACC POY Julius Hodge.
    They ran him out of town because he couldn't win much at all on Tobacco Road against Duke and UNC and couldn't deliver an ACC Title. Imagine that. Talk about expectations. That ACC is, has been, and always will be a rough grind.
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    Ol' Herbie did pretty good in Raleigh for the Wolfpack too. Had a lot of success there. Took them to the Big Dance regularly, won a Conference Tourney, was ACC coach of the year once.
    He recruited ACC POY Julius Hodge.
    They ran him out of town because he couldn't win much at all on Tobacco Road against Duke and UNC and couldn't deliver an ACC Title. Imagine that. Talk about expectations. That ACC is, has been, and always will be a rough grind.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2019 - 4:37 PM ET #137

    Thirsty

    I've been plugging your thread in mine and a few others threads. Telling them it is an interesting and informative read that they will enjoy and can use to their benefit. 
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    I've been plugging your thread in mine and a few others threads. Telling them it is an interesting and informative read that they will enjoy and can use to their benefit. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2019 - 5:24 PM ET #138

    Quote Originally Posted by LosDos:

    Your list of teams is when they're home dogs only right? Because a lot of those team are really overrated and are usually favorites

    Yes....or when they are a short fave -3.5 to PK

    Sorry to get back to you late....been super busy with work
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    Quote Originally Posted by LosDos:

    Your list of teams is when they're home dogs only right? Because a lot of those team are really overrated and are usually favorites

    Yes....or when they are a short fave -3.5 to PK

    Sorry to get back to you late....been super busy with work
     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2019 - 5:26 PM ET #139

    Quote Originally Posted by FunKyRufus:

    1* MD -5 to Indiana
    1* Wiscy -3 to Purdue

    Love these plays!  Agree without capping....

    Funk, you are on fire....still would love to see you post here all of them if you can. Thanks again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FunKyRufus:

    1* MD -5 to Indiana
    1* Wiscy -3 to Purdue

    Love these plays!  Agree without capping....

    Funk, you are on fire....still would love to see you post here all of them if you can. Thanks again.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish7878:

    Shhhhhhh!!!!!  Don't let everyone know about my Broncos up in Santa Clara....Herb Sendek is imo a very good coach (he was savvy enough to pull James Harden out of So Cal to ASU) and gets some nice players to stay near home.  It also doesn't hurt that Santa Clara is consistently in the Top 5 in the rankings of the hottest coeds on campus.

    Nice little cover last night against the Waves!


    Thanks Irish....nice to see you here

    I got schooled this year in NCAAF....stats analysis did not matter much there.....but here, stats lend themselves to college ball plus a working knowledge of tendencies of home teams and what happens when Vegas posts a fresh line.

    On football, I believe Clemson was playing possum all year long....looked OK....whenever I watched them and Bama looked like they could have another gear if they wanted to....but nope.

    Santa Clara had cost me money for 2 yrs straight starting about 5 yrs ago....I learned....play them at home. Wife lived in Santa Clara for a while and everyone thought she was Julia Roberts...haha....but now she is older and Julia is looking younger!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish7878:

    Shhhhhhh!!!!!  Don't let everyone know about my Broncos up in Santa Clara....Herb Sendek is imo a very good coach (he was savvy enough to pull James Harden out of So Cal to ASU) and gets some nice players to stay near home.  It also doesn't hurt that Santa Clara is consistently in the Top 5 in the rankings of the hottest coeds on campus.

    Nice little cover last night against the Waves!


    Thanks Irish....nice to see you here

    I got schooled this year in NCAAF....stats analysis did not matter much there.....but here, stats lend themselves to college ball plus a working knowledge of tendencies of home teams and what happens when Vegas posts a fresh line.

    On football, I believe Clemson was playing possum all year long....looked OK....whenever I watched them and Bama looked like they could have another gear if they wanted to....but nope.

    Santa Clara had cost me money for 2 yrs straight starting about 5 yrs ago....I learned....play them at home. Wife lived in Santa Clara for a while and everyone thought she was Julia Roberts...haha....but now she is older and Julia is looking younger!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by FunKyRufus:

    Thirsty

    I've been plugging your thread in mine and a few others threads. Telling them it is an interesting and informative read that they will enjoy and can use to their benefit. 

    No problem..... but Funk I will tell you that I am 3 yrs from finishing my professional job and during two points of the year, I get swamped and that time is now.....so its great having you here and I will be on the Conference play like a fat kid on a Hershey Bar come Feb.....just updating my rankings and surfing for some juicy plays.

    I won't even make a play tonight because you found the gems!  I expect I will be capping like mad tonight over a few double scotches or bourbons so expect to see me visible tomorrow.

    As always, much appreciated you are here.....its great having one of the best in the business sharing the thread 
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    Thirsty

    I've been plugging your thread in mine and a few others threads. Telling them it is an interesting and informative read that they will enjoy and can use to their benefit. 

    No problem..... but Funk I will tell you that I am 3 yrs from finishing my professional job and during two points of the year, I get swamped and that time is now.....so its great having you here and I will be on the Conference play like a fat kid on a Hershey Bar come Feb.....just updating my rankings and surfing for some juicy plays.

    I won't even make a play tonight because you found the gems!  I expect I will be capping like mad tonight over a few double scotches or bourbons so expect to see me visible tomorrow.

    As always, much appreciated you are here.....its great having one of the best in the business sharing the thread 
     
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    Most impressive Thursday night.....and thinking of rejigging my TIERs a little as a result

    East Tenn St.....been noticing they have a good record but now are starting to beatdown teams!

    Wofford....sick home team and can beat UNC at home....check their statistics...unreal and now they are doing it on the road vs a 14-3 home team??

    Colorado....another hands down tough homecourt due to elevation and style of play when they face a good team....they RUN!!!!

    Washington....winning again on the road at a tough home court

    Gonzaga.....that game shows me a lot ....MOVING ON UP NOW!
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    Most impressive Thursday night.....and thinking of rejigging my TIERs a little as a result

    East Tenn St.....been noticing they have a good record but now are starting to beatdown teams!

    Wofford....sick home team and can beat UNC at home....check their statistics...unreal and now they are doing it on the road vs a 14-3 home team??

    Colorado....another hands down tough homecourt due to elevation and style of play when they face a good team....they RUN!!!!

    Washington....winning again on the road at a tough home court

    Gonzaga.....that game shows me a lot ....MOVING ON UP NOW!
     
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    Saturday: Double UP Day!

    Play #1  Virginia  -5.5   (3 Units)....my initial gut was, this line should be -7.5 on first glance or higher.....Sagarin and Eigenvector confirm it should likely be even higher than this....putting the capping pressure on myself early....love it ......next one has to be 6 U on the double
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    Saturday: Double UP Day!

    Play #1  Virginia  -5.5   (3 Units)....my initial gut was, this line should be -7.5 on first glance or higher.....Sagarin and Eigenvector confirm it should likely be even higher than this....putting the capping pressure on myself early....love it ......next one has to be 6 U on the double
     
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    Play #2  Kent St. +2  ( 2 Units) Double Up in effect....

    KS went to Vandy 10 games ago and beat them on the road ...thats very tough to do there and when I look at them statistically, I can see why

    Eigenvector Analysis agrees with me and thinks Kent St. should be close to a 5 pt fave...

    Its very curious why this line is moving for EMU but who cares. I like WHAT I SEE and thats how I make my money ...or not...haha
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    Play #2  Kent St. +2  ( 2 Units) Double Up in effect....

    KS went to Vandy 10 games ago and beat them on the road ...thats very tough to do there and when I look at them statistically, I can see why

    Eigenvector Analysis agrees with me and thinks Kent St. should be close to a 5 pt fave...

    Its very curious why this line is moving for EMU but who cares. I like WHAT I SEE and thats how I make my money ...or not...haha
     
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    Play #3  Minnesota  -9  (1x)...key player out for Rutgers and they don't score a lot....he is worth almost 15 pts per game....Minny can be a very tough home court. This could be close if Rutgers is effective defensively but I am thinking more this is going to be a blowout close by 12-18 pts
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    Play #3  Minnesota  -9  (1x)...key player out for Rutgers and they don't score a lot....he is worth almost 15 pts per game....Minny can be a very tough home court. This could be close if Rutgers is effective defensively but I am thinking more this is going to be a blowout close by 12-18 pts
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Last2thirst:

    Play #3  Minnesota  -9  (1x)...key player out for Rutgers and they don't score a lot....he is worth almost 15 pts per game....Minny can be a very tough home court. This could be close if Rutgers is effective defensively but I am thinking more this is going to be a blowout close by 12-18 pts

    I just put in my noon plays - 1 unit on UVA -5.5 and 1.5 on Minnesota -9.

    It feels like good karma for the next page I opened to be yours with these same two plays. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last2thirst:

    Play #3  Minnesota  -9  (1x)...key player out for Rutgers and they don't score a lot....he is worth almost 15 pts per game....Minny can be a very tough home court. This could be close if Rutgers is effective defensively but I am thinking more this is going to be a blowout close by 12-18 pts

    I just put in my noon plays - 1 unit on UVA -5.5 and 1.5 on Minnesota -9.

    It feels like good karma for the next page I opened to be yours with these same two plays. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2019 - 12:10 PM ET #147

    Quote Originally Posted by Last2thirst:

    Play #2  Kent St. +2  ( 2 Units) Double Up in effect....

    KS went to Vandy 10 games ago and beat them on the road ...thats very tough to do there and when I look at them statistically, I can see why

    Eigenvector Analysis agrees with me and thinks Kent St. should be close to a 5 pt fave...

    Its very curious why this line is moving for EMU but who cares. I like WHAT I SEE and thats how I make my money ...or not...haha

    The VU game was played in Kansas City at the Sprint Center,  a neutral court, but for all intent and purpose a home game for KAN ST.
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    Play #2  Kent St. +2  ( 2 Units) Double Up in effect....

    KS went to Vandy 10 games ago and beat them on the road ...thats very tough to do there and when I look at them statistically, I can see why

    Eigenvector Analysis agrees with me and thinks Kent St. should be close to a 5 pt fave...

    Its very curious why this line is moving for EMU but who cares. I like WHAT I SEE and thats how I make my money ...or not...haha

    The VU game was played in Kansas City at the Sprint Center,  a neutral court, but for all intent and purpose a home game for KAN ST.
     
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    My mistake.  KENT ST did go into VU and hung the only home loss on the Commodores this year before OLE MISS this past week.  Ive go to get glasses.  Sorry
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    My mistake.  KENT ST did go into VU and hung the only home loss on the Commodores this year before OLE MISS this past week.  Ive go to get glasses.  Sorry
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by GBARK:

    My mistake.  KENT ST did go into VU and hung the only home loss on the Commodores this year before OLE MISS this past week.  Ive go to get glasses.  Sorry

    All good ....critical analysis is necessary sometimes....I can make mistakes too
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    My mistake.  KENT ST did go into VU and hung the only home loss on the Commodores this year before OLE MISS this past week.  Ive go to get glasses.  Sorry

    All good ....critical analysis is necessary sometimes....I can make mistakes too
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Last2thirst:


    All good ....critical analysis is necessary sometimes....I can make mistakes too



    Again, sorry.  Good Luck with your picks.  
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    All good ....critical analysis is necessary sometimes....I can make mistakes too



    Again, sorry.  Good Luck with your picks.  
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