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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2014 - 10:56 AM ET #51

    Trying to understand what you mean by a 5 game chase?

    What do your letters refer to [Duke C, APB A]?  Did the C refer to the third play in that chase? And is this a first half system only?

    Also, what is the difference between System 1 and System 2?

    I believe the difference is the first game in the rotation numerically and the last game in the rotation?

    So if the APB play would not have covered would the next play or second play in the chase be the last game numerically in the rotation? Thus referring to the letter (B)? 

    A lot of questions but I am just trying to understand.
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    Trying to understand what you mean by a 5 game chase?

    What do your letters refer to [Duke C, APB A]?  Did the C refer to the third play in that chase? And is this a first half system only?

    Also, what is the difference between System 1 and System 2?

    I believe the difference is the first game in the rotation numerically and the last game in the rotation?

    So if the APB play would not have covered would the next play or second play in the chase be the last game numerically in the rotation? Thus referring to the letter (B)? 

    A lot of questions but I am just trying to understand.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2014 - 11:18 AM ET #52

    Quote Originally Posted by thomthekid:

    Trying to understand what you mean by a 5 game chase?

    What do your letters refer to [Duke C, APB A]?  Did the C refer to the third play in that chase? And is this a first half system only?

    Also, what is the difference between System 1 and System 2?

    I believe the difference is the first game in the rotation numerically and the last game in the rotation?

    So if the APB play would not have covered would the next play or second play in the chase be the last game numerically in the rotation? Thus referring to the letter (B)? 

    A lot of questions but I am just trying to understand.

    Let me try and clear this up for you if your not used to playing chases it might be kind of confusing.

    The letters correspond to how far into the chase you are, A=1, B=2, C=3 etc.it goes to E=5 a 5 game chase. If the game posted loses the first half the second half is the B game. If both halves lose it carries to next day which would be the C&D games and so on to the 3rd game first half which is the E game. System 1 is first game on the rotation # wise and system 2 is last game # wise. I hope that helped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomthekid:

    Trying to understand what you mean by a 5 game chase?

    What do your letters refer to [Duke C, APB A]?  Did the C refer to the third play in that chase? And is this a first half system only?

    Also, what is the difference between System 1 and System 2?

    I believe the difference is the first game in the rotation numerically and the last game in the rotation?

    So if the APB play would not have covered would the next play or second play in the chase be the last game numerically in the rotation? Thus referring to the letter (B)? 

    A lot of questions but I am just trying to understand.

    Let me try and clear this up for you if your not used to playing chases it might be kind of confusing.

    The letters correspond to how far into the chase you are, A=1, B=2, C=3 etc.it goes to E=5 a 5 game chase. If the game posted loses the first half the second half is the B game. If both halves lose it carries to next day which would be the C&D games and so on to the 3rd game first half which is the E game. System 1 is first game on the rotation # wise and system 2 is last game # wise. I hope that helped.

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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2014 - 11:21 AM ET #53

    System 1 
    Missouri (A)

    System 2
    Eastern Illinois (A)
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    System 1 
    Missouri (A)

    System 2
    Eastern Illinois (A)
     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2014 - 11:26 AM ET #54

    Thank you.  I am clear.  I believe you stated the neither system has gone past the D game?
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    Thank you.  I am clear.  I believe you stated the neither system has gone past the D game?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2014 - 11:37 AM ET #55

    Does this work for NBA as well?
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2014 - 11:58 AM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by thomthekid:

    Does this work for NBA as well?

    It is quite simple. The chase goes for whatever the confidence you have in the sport that you are betting on. Most chases that I have seen have gone to four. This one is different in that it goes to five. There are two separate tiers, so playing two games is a possibility. 
    I actually play a chase of totals, with 3 tiers. It is what I feel more comfortable with. Five means you can actually go four games with losses and many just say screw this and jump elsewhere. However, if you missed the previous losses, 1-2-3-4, then you are percentage wise probably going to hit, finishing that round. 
    His plays seem stable enough, it should provide a solid plus in your money over time. Here again, is a problem, many bettors do not have the patience to play a chase. Mostly, bettors are action players, and this is where money mangement is the biggest concern. Stick close to playing less, use the stem of 1 more unit each time and hopefully you can feel like money is in the positive at the the end of the night.. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by thomthekid:

    Does this work for NBA as well?

    It is quite simple. The chase goes for whatever the confidence you have in the sport that you are betting on. Most chases that I have seen have gone to four. This one is different in that it goes to five. There are two separate tiers, so playing two games is a possibility. 
    I actually play a chase of totals, with 3 tiers. It is what I feel more comfortable with. Five means you can actually go four games with losses and many just say screw this and jump elsewhere. However, if you missed the previous losses, 1-2-3-4, then you are percentage wise probably going to hit, finishing that round. 
    His plays seem stable enough, it should provide a solid plus in your money over time. Here again, is a problem, many bettors do not have the patience to play a chase. Mostly, bettors are action players, and this is where money mangement is the biggest concern. Stick close to playing less, use the stem of 1 more unit each time and hopefully you can feel like money is in the positive at the the end of the night.. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2014 - 12:14 PM ET #57

    Quote Originally Posted by thomthekid:

    Thank you.  I am clear.  I believe you stated the neither system has gone past the D game?

    System 1 never to game(E)
    System 2 game (E) 3 times and has 1 loss

    1 loss = 39.85 units
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    Quote Originally Posted by thomthekid:

    Thank you.  I am clear.  I believe you stated the neither system has gone past the D game?

    System 1 never to game(E)
    System 2 game (E) 3 times and has 1 loss

    1 loss = 39.85 units
     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2014 - 12:14 PM ET #58

    Last question Hat.  

    The play is the dog in the next game if the first half play loses?  No matter which team is the dog?
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    Last question Hat.  

    The play is the dog in the next game if the first half play loses?  No matter which team is the dog?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2014 - 12:17 PM ET #59

    Quote Originally Posted by SunDog:


    It is quite simple. The chase goes for whatever the confidence you have in the sport that you are betting on. Most chases that I have seen have gone to four. This one is different in that it goes to five. There are two separate tiers, so playing two games is a possibility. 
    I actually play a chase of totals, with 3 tiers. It is what I feel more comfortable with. Five means you can actually go four games with losses and many just say screw this and jump elsewhere. However, if you missed the previous losses, 1-2-3-4, then you are percentage wise probably going to hit, finishing that round. 
    His plays seem stable enough, it should provide a solid plus in your money over time. Here again, is a problem, many bettors do not have the patience to play a chase. Mostly, bettors are action players, and this is where money mangement is the biggest concern. Stick close to playing less, use the stem of 1 more unit each time and hopefully you can feel like money is in the positive at the the end of the night.. 

    Great insight.  Thank you for posting it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SunDog:


    It is quite simple. The chase goes for whatever the confidence you have in the sport that you are betting on. Most chases that I have seen have gone to four. This one is different in that it goes to five. There are two separate tiers, so playing two games is a possibility. 
    I actually play a chase of totals, with 3 tiers. It is what I feel more comfortable with. Five means you can actually go four games with losses and many just say screw this and jump elsewhere. However, if you missed the previous losses, 1-2-3-4, then you are percentage wise probably going to hit, finishing that round. 
    His plays seem stable enough, it should provide a solid plus in your money over time. Here again, is a problem, many bettors do not have the patience to play a chase. Mostly, bettors are action players, and this is where money mangement is the biggest concern. Stick close to playing less, use the stem of 1 more unit each time and hopefully you can feel like money is in the positive at the the end of the night.. 

    Great insight.  Thank you for posting it.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2014 - 12:18 PM ET #60

    Quote Originally Posted by thomthekid:

    Last question Hat.  

    The play is the dog in the next game if the first half play loses?  No matter which team is the dog?

    If first half loses you play the same team second half no matter what the line is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thomthekid:

    Last question Hat.  

    The play is the dog in the next game if the first half play loses?  No matter which team is the dog?

    If first half loses you play the same team second half no matter what the line is.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2014 - 12:23 PM ET #61

    Thanks for your time JTH.
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    Thanks for your time JTH.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2014 - 12:39 PM ET #62

    How are you selecting the games that you are playing? System one and system two are the same just designating two separate plays?
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    How are you selecting the games that you are playing? System one and system two are the same just designating two separate plays?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smileking53:

    How are you selecting the games that you are playing? System one and system two are the same just designating two separate plays?

    Refer to post 52 response, should answer your question
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smileking53:

    How are you selecting the games that you are playing? System one and system two are the same just designating two separate plays?

    Refer to post 52 response, should answer your question
     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2014 - 12:46 PM ET #64

    So, the play today is to bet Missouri 1st half and E. Illinois 1st half.....one unit each. If those lose play same team second half for two units. If that should lose i wait until tomorrow to get the third leg of the system?
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    So, the play today is to bet Missouri 1st half and E. Illinois 1st half.....one unit each. If those lose play same team second half for two units. If that should lose i wait until tomorrow to get the third leg of the system?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smileking53:

    So, the play today is to bet Missouri 1st half and E. Illinois 1st half.....one unit each. If those lose play same team second half for two units. If that should lose i wait until tomorrow to get the third leg of the system?

    Correct!  

    Good luck to us
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smileking53:

    So, the play today is to bet Missouri 1st half and E. Illinois 1st half.....one unit each. If those lose play same team second half for two units. If that should lose i wait until tomorrow to get the third leg of the system?

    Correct!  

    Good luck to us
     
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    Hopefully you are receiving some kind of compensation from ontheblacksports as they are now posting your system and are a paid service.
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    OK! Let's give this a shot.

     

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    OK! Let's give this a shot.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by socks:

    Hopefully you are receiving some kind of compensation from ontheblacksports as they are now posting your system and are a paid service.

    Really? I didn't  realize they are doing that! A big reason I don't like posting my parameters for my systems. That really irritates me, thx for the heads up! 

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    Quote Originally Posted by socks:

    Hopefully you are receiving some kind of compensation from ontheblacksports as they are now posting your system and are a paid service.

    Really? I didn't  realize they are doing that! A big reason I don't like posting my parameters for my systems. That really irritates me, thx for the heads up! 

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    Socks, we made people aware of these systems and didn't claim them as our own.  We've done some checking on them as well and these look to test out pretty well.  There wasn't a poaching or taking credit for these picks going on, just making people aware of other systems that are currently making money.
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    Socks, we made people aware of these systems and didn't claim them as our own.  We've done some checking on them as well and these look to test out pretty well.  There wasn't a poaching or taking credit for these picks going on, just making people aware of other systems that are currently making money.
     
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    Mizzou covers!!!!!!  I can't afford to compensate you, so I will just say

    Thank you!

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    Mizzou covers!!!!!!  I can't afford to compensate you, so I will just say

    Thank you!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2014 - 7:58 PM ET #71

    System 1

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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2014 - 7:59 PM ET #72

    System 1 wins on the (A) game with Missouri

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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2014 - 8:53 PM ET #73

    System  2 wins on the (A) game with Eastern Illinois 1st half 

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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2014 - 8:55 PM ET #74

    Followed both system bets. Good calls Hat. I will be looking for you again tomorrow! Thanks
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    Followed both system bets. Good calls Hat. I will be looking for you again tomorrow! Thanks
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2014 - 9:00 PM ET #75

    I am impressed by this system! But I must tell you that your "record" is not being tallied properly. If you add a win to the total every time you win then you must add a loss every time you lose even if the "5 game chase" isn't completed. As in if you lose 3 straight and win the fourth you are going to say you are 1-0 but in reality you are 1-3. The system is working very great for you but don't mislead people by saying it is 63-0 because in reality you haven't picked 63 straight wins. 
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    I am impressed by this system! But I must tell you that your "record" is not being tallied properly. If you add a win to the total every time you win then you must add a loss every time you lose even if the "5 game chase" isn't completed. As in if you lose 3 straight and win the fourth you are going to say you are 1-0 but in reality you are 1-3. The system is working very great for you but don't mislead people by saying it is 63-0 because in reality you haven't picked 63 straight wins. 
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