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#101
System 1 Florida Atlantic (A)
System 2 Bryant (A)
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Chase systems , fluke or not?
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#102
Hey JTH - System looks good man - Question: You may have answered this and forgive me if I missed it, but do you have your percentage WIN/LOSS for each system category A,B,C,D,E, etc. not each system, but each letter category? Thanks bro and hope to research and tail some of your picks!
BOO!
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#103
Great job with this system Hat, I know that I have asked you this twice and maybe I am not being clear on the question. I fully understand the system with the exception of how you are choosing which games to play within the system. Are they just games that you feel look good or what criteria are you using to select those game? That question was not answered in post #52. Sorry to be a bother. You know the saying, "Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for a lifetime.
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#104
Hat,
I may have just had an ahh haa moment. You are literally playing the first and last games listed on the betting card for the day? So what you are saying is it doesn't matter which game you play, you just play the first half dog, if that loses play the same team second half. If that loses you start the same play again the next day, just doubling your bet each time. So if Bryant isn't on my card I can substitute with any other game, just following the system?
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#106
FYI: Your units have to be tiny unless you have a huge roll. 5 chases looks like this
1.1 to win 1 LOSS thus down 1.1 so
2.2 to win 1 LOSS thus down 3.3 so
4.4 to win 1 LOSS thus down 7.7 so
8.8 to win 1 LOSS thus down 16.5 so
17.6 to win 1 LOSS thus down 34.1
Units are approx but you get the idea. You must have 35 successful chases for every loss. Thus 35-1 is a 1 unit gain.
2 losses before you get to 70 wins loses you most of your roll.
And, realistically, it is very tough to blindly play a 17.6 unit play.
I wish you nothing but the best of luck.
1.1 to win 1 LOSS thus down 1.1 so
2.2 to win 1 LOSS thus down 3.3 so
4.4 to win 1 LOSS thus down 7.7 so
8.8 to win 1 LOSS thus down 16.5 so
17.6 to win 1 LOSS thus down 34.1
Units are approx but you get the idea. You must have 35 successful chases for every loss. Thus 35-1 is a 1 unit gain.
2 losses before you get to 70 wins loses you most of your roll.
And, realistically, it is very tough to blindly play a 17.6 unit play.
I wish you nothing but the best of luck.
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Posted:
#107
Quote Originally Posted by BandosWB:
FYI: Your units have to be tiny unless you have a huge roll. 5 chases looks like this
1.1 to win 1 LOSS thus down 1.1 so
2.2 to win 1 LOSS thus down 3.3 so
4.4 to win 1 LOSS thus down 7.7 so
8.8 to win 1 LOSS thus down 16.5 so
17.6 to win 1 LOSS thus down 34.1
Units are approx but you get the idea. You must have 35 successful chases for every loss. Thus 35-1 is a 1 unit gain.
2 losses before you get to 70 wins loses you most of your roll.
And, realistically, it is very tough to blindly play a 17.6 unit play.
I wish you nothing but the best of luck.
FYI: Your units have to be tiny unless you have a huge roll. 5 chases looks like this
1.1 to win 1 LOSS thus down 1.1 so
2.2 to win 1 LOSS thus down 3.3 so
4.4 to win 1 LOSS thus down 7.7 so
8.8 to win 1 LOSS thus down 16.5 so
17.6 to win 1 LOSS thus down 34.1
Units are approx but you get the idea. You must have 35 successful chases for every loss. Thus 35-1 is a 1 unit gain.
2 losses before you get to 70 wins loses you most of your roll.
And, realistically, it is very tough to blindly play a 17.6 unit play.
I wish you nothing but the best of luck.
Actually its 39.85 units lost but everyone who is familiar with chases knows this. Thx for the luck hopefully we wont need it! 
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#110
Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT:
Let me try and clear this up for you if your not used to playing chases it might be kind of confusing.
The letters correspond to how far into the chase you are, A=1, B=2, C=3 etc.it goes to E=5 a 5 game chase. If the game posted loses the first half the second half is the B game. If both halves lose it carries to next day which would be the C&D games and so on to the 3rd game first half which is the E game. System 1 is first game on the rotation # wise and system 2 is last game # wise. I hope that helped.
And you always ride the same team 2nd half AS YOU DID THE 1ST HALF IF IT LOOSES CORRECT??????????
The Hat
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#113
with all due respect to jeffthehat i would like to make some comments and observations about his chase system. first of all this is not a handicapping system but rather a mathematical system. if one assumes that the posted pointspread renders the outcome to be a 50-50 proposition then this system is akin to flipping a coin. the odds of anyone picking 5 winners in a row (or 5 losers in a row) is two to the 5th power or 32-1. just like 5 heads in a row or five tails in a row on a coin toss. same goes for jeff's basketball wagers or any other sport given the 50-50 outcome assumption. so essentially you are gambling against the 32-1 shot smacking you in the face and costing you 39.85 units. i am certainly not knocking this "system" by any means just calling it for what it is. there is nothing proprietary or special about his "system". it involves zero handicapping. let me repeat that. it involves zero handicapping. anyone can devise their own chase and keep doubling up until they win and profit one unit. good luck jeffthehat and good luck all.
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#114
Quote Originally Posted by shug1929:
with all due respect to jeffthehat i would like to make some comments and observations about his chase system. first of all this is not a handicapping system but rather a mathematical system. if one assumes that the posted pointspread renders the outcome to be a 50-50 proposition then this system is akin to flipping a coin. the odds of anyone picking 5 winners in a row (or 5 losers in a row) is two to the 5th power or 32-1. just like 5 heads in a row or five tails in a row on a coin toss. same goes for jeff's basketball wagers or any other sport given the 50-50 outcome assumption. so essentially you are gambling against the 32-1 shot smacking you in the face and costing you 39.85 units. i am certainly not knocking this "system" by any means just calling it for what it is. there is nothing proprietary or special about his "system". it involves zero handicapping. let me repeat that. it involves zero handicapping. anyone can devise their own chase and keep doubling up until they win and profit one unit. good luck jeffthehat and good luck all.
with all due respect to jeffthehat i would like to make some comments and observations about his chase system. first of all this is not a handicapping system but rather a mathematical system. if one assumes that the posted pointspread renders the outcome to be a 50-50 proposition then this system is akin to flipping a coin. the odds of anyone picking 5 winners in a row (or 5 losers in a row) is two to the 5th power or 32-1. just like 5 heads in a row or five tails in a row on a coin toss. same goes for jeff's basketball wagers or any other sport given the 50-50 outcome assumption. so essentially you are gambling against the 32-1 shot smacking you in the face and costing you 39.85 units. i am certainly not knocking this "system" by any means just calling it for what it is. there is nothing proprietary or special about his "system". it involves zero handicapping. let me repeat that. it involves zero handicapping. anyone can devise their own chase and keep doubling up until they win and profit one unit. good luck jeffthehat and good luck all.
I never said it involves any handicapping, but I have said in a previous post that chase systems far out produce handicapping any day of the year(if the chase system is solid). Everybody is fully aware of the 39.85 units lost if the chase loses as I posted that also. The object is to end up in the positive at the end of the season which 95% of the bettors do not. One last point with all do respect it's not that easy to find something that you can bet 5 times in a row without it losing. This I only checked back 2 years previous so the gains will,probably out weigh the losses. Oh and I suppose anyone can find a chase that goes 3065-0 te past 4 years in baseball? I'm all eyes if anybody can find anomalies like these because as I said you won't to make money, use a chase wanna lose or make very little try handicapping. I've been oing this 30 years I've done both. Good luck with your betting Shug1929
The Hat
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Heck might work in MLB and WNBA I'll check and see! 
Posted:
#118
Hat or to whom it may concern:
I am writing this post to detail the success of this system even without playing the same plays posted on here, but by using the same parameters. Unfortunately, my book offers a reduced fist half rotation in CBB. However, by using the first game, last game, it has served me well. These are my successes, note I only started three days ago:
System 1
Mizzou (A)
System 2
New Mexico (A)
Day 2: Only one play this day because I had to fly so if the System 2 play lost in the first half I would not be able to play the second half.
Geo Tech (A)
Day 3:
Providence (B)
S. D. (A)
There are certain parameters that need to be followed in order to have success. I suggest they be followed in order to produce a profit. I for one do not have the time to properly handicap, nor want to hit at 52% to 57% and consider that as being successful,
, which many professional cappers do consider success. I look forward to hearing about the baseball system Hat. Thank you for allowing me to feel some action and receive a profit.
, which many professional cappers do consider success. I look forward to hearing about the baseball system Hat. Thank you for allowing me to feel some action and receive a profit.0
Posted:
#119
@jeffthehat, please dont take my post the wrong way. i am not being critical of your chase system. i wish you and your followers nothing but the best of luck and success. i was merely trying to highlight the randomness of it. what could be more random than the first game and the last game. i also am not claiming that handicapping is a superior method versus a mathemtical chase approach to betting. i am a fan in general of system based approaches because they take the emotion out of the decision making process. the less emotional a player's choices are the better as far as i'm concerned.i totally agree with your assertion that the overwhelming majority of players lose although i am not sure that percentage is as high as you suggest at 95%. as for your rhetorical question above about the odds being 81% on the first two levels, one would mathematically expect those odds to be 75% over many trials. there are four possible outcomes of which 3 are positive and only one is negative. those are 1: W W 2: W L 3: L W 4: L L. so your system so far is slightly ahead based on expectation. my final point is that essentially your system's profitability is based on its ability to avoid losing 5 consecutive wagers which mathematics would argue will occur once every 33 trials. i wish you luck in avoiding that inevitable land mine. i hope you and all your followers do well and profit handsomely.
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