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    WNF's, Showbox, other fights, FMayJr. vs. ODLH PPV: (o5/o5)

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    Posted: May. 4, 2007 - 9:11 PM ET #51

    "Panchito" starts Vegas off right! Reads like an ugly fight, but at least training w/ ODLH got him in-shape.


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    "Panchito" starts Vegas off right! Reads like an ugly fight, but at least training w/ ODLH got him in-shape.


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    Posted: May. 4, 2007 - 10:47 PM ET #52

    Reads like Cazares absoultly ate Perez totally up. Nice to see Joe Cortez working a fight, been a while since I've seen that name. HFC could give El Nino a little run, though I'll be favoring El Nino till some1 shuts him down.


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    Reads like Cazares absoultly ate Perez totally up. Nice to see Joe Cortez working a fight, been a while since I've seen that name. HFC could give El Nino a little run, though I'll be favoring El Nino till some1 shuts him down.


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    Posted: May. 4, 2007 - 11:51 PM ET #53

    Scott overcomes an oddball Knee injury to win a UD. I'll take it, & Scott did stay perfect on a nite where he got hurt via a non-contact injury, that's no bad showing, for what could have been really bad.

    Arreloa was nice, he sure is tough, & may have a ceiling of becoming good. But he does n0t have the 1 shot Voltage his Rec' suggests. Comes straight in, is difficult to discourage, & can slip a Punch. But he's a regional belt holder a max best, but I'll take the win.

    I've added the DG & EC UP.


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    Scott overcomes an oddball Knee injury to win a UD. I'll take it, & Scott did stay perfect on a nite where he got hurt via a non-contact injury, that's no bad showing, for what could have been really bad.

    Arreloa was nice, he sure is tough, & may have a ceiling of becoming good. But he does n0t have the 1 shot Voltage his Rec' suggests. Comes straight in, is difficult to discourage, & can slip a Punch. But he's a regional belt holder a max best, but I'll take the win.

    I've added the DG & EC UP.


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    Posted: May. 5, 2007 - 1:00 AM ET #54

    1 unit parlay: Chambers by 10rd Decision (-123) & Cazares Inside the Distance (-245) to win 1.55
    Hedging with...
    .15 of a unit on Guinn Inside the Distance (+692) 


    Another nice night, add 1.4 units of profit to the tally for the week.  That's it for me except for my action on the main event tomorrow night and I like where I stand there.  Hope others followed and profited also.


      Now up 4.72 units for the week.

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    1 unit parlay: Chambers by 10rd Decision (-123) & Cazares Inside the Distance (-245) to win 1.55
    Hedging with...
    .15 of a unit on Guinn Inside the Distance (+692) 


    Another nice night, add 1.4 units of profit to the tally for the week.  That's it for me except for my action on the main event tomorrow night and I like where I stand there.  Hope others followed and profited also.


      Now up 4.72 units for the week.

     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2007 - 1:32 AM ET #55

    My DG total hit. That was nice. DG stoped 1 min.wager Parlay. EC is not much, I will very much (more than 1 unit) go against him when he faces some1 real. EC is pretty fast, but he's just too small to do much work at Heavyweight. DG is now on his way to ESPN dark-matches. & that's too bad, b/c while he does not have Title Talent, he is more gifted than he often shows himself to be.


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    My DG total hit. That was nice. DG stoped 1 min.wager Parlay. EC is not much, I will very much (more than 1 unit) go against him when he faces some1 real. EC is pretty fast, but he's just too small to do much work at Heavyweight. DG is now on his way to ESPN dark-matches. & that's too bad, b/c while he does not have Title Talent, he is more gifted than he often shows himself to be.


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    Posted: May. 5, 2007 - 1:42 AM ET #56

    Bigeiii: All the heavy chalk hit so I take it you had a good night.  Hey what happened with Malik Scott's knee, was the injury due to those flimsy ropes?  He has become the Heavyweight UD king.  If you could elaborate on that last set of questions I posed it might help me at least semi-understand kind of what your philosophy is.

    If you do publish your system as you suggested you should name it......

    The Heavy Chalk/Cross Gender/Cross Sport/Prop/Kicker System.



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    Bigeiii: All the heavy chalk hit so I take it you had a good night.  Hey what happened with Malik Scott's knee, was the injury due to those flimsy ropes?  He has become the Heavyweight UD king.  If you could elaborate on that last set of questions I posed it might help me at least semi-understand kind of what your philosophy is.

    If you do publish your system as you suggested you should name it......

    The Heavy Chalk/Cross Gender/Cross Sport/Prop/Kicker System.



     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2007 - 1:46 AM ET #57

    Quote Originally Posted by bigeiii:

    My DG total hit. That was nice. DG stoped 1 min.wager Parlay. EC is not much, I will very much (more than 1 unit) go against him when he faces some1 real. EC is pretty fast, but he's just too small to do much work at Heavyweight. DG is now on his way to ESPN dark-matches. & that's too bad, b/c while he does not have Title Talent, he is more gifted than he often shows himself to be.


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    How do you think that Ronnie Shields feels in DG's corner?  I bet every fight he tells himself, "This is Deja Vu, the kid has talent, but won't do anything with it.  Why am I wasting my time?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigeiii:

    My DG total hit. That was nice. DG stoped 1 min.wager Parlay. EC is not much, I will very much (more than 1 unit) go against him when he faces some1 real. EC is pretty fast, but he's just too small to do much work at Heavyweight. DG is now on his way to ESPN dark-matches. & that's too bad, b/c while he does not have Title Talent, he is more gifted than he often shows himself to be.


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    How do you think that Ronnie Shields feels in DG's corner?  I bet every fight he tells himself, "This is Deja Vu, the kid has talent, but won't do anything with it.  Why am I wasting my time?"
     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2007 - 1:57 AM ET #58

    Yah; that was nice 2nite Fbs.

    Scott was not in contact w/ the Ropes. He was moving backwards, kinda, slightly to his left, & he suddenly brought his right Knew up (kinda like stepping on some unseen sharp object w/ barefeet). I actully thought he was clowning Shufford. But on seeing it in slowmo', looked like he hyperextened it.

    I'll take that name under advisement. But I've already locked up the domain-name for such. Initials are BPP.

    I suspect you need to try it. (learn by doing, not by watching) Take next week, use whatever book that offers the lowest pure min.wager ($5 most places). Then take the chalk you are sure is gonna win. Then take whatever +$$$ bet(s) you think is best & use them to kick up the ROI. You're quiet solid on the +$$$ part, so play them alone, then play them w/ the easiest chalk. It may not at a whole helluva a lot to what you do. But it will add up over a year. B/c most weeks all of my chalks go through. (& I don't play them all, prolly 1 in 4 I don't play b/c I'm not sure what to do (like 2 of the 3 Japanese bouts on Thur., left 'em alone, as I was not sure in any direction)). I've had 3-4 week runs where not 1 chalk got beat. They do get upset, but the odds do not favor it, not at all.

    GLA!
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    Yah; that was nice 2nite Fbs.

    Scott was not in contact w/ the Ropes. He was moving backwards, kinda, slightly to his left, & he suddenly brought his right Knew up (kinda like stepping on some unseen sharp object w/ barefeet). I actully thought he was clowning Shufford. But on seeing it in slowmo', looked like he hyperextened it.

    I'll take that name under advisement. But I've already locked up the domain-name for such. Initials are BPP.

    I suspect you need to try it. (learn by doing, not by watching) Take next week, use whatever book that offers the lowest pure min.wager ($5 most places). Then take the chalk you are sure is gonna win. Then take whatever +$$$ bet(s) you think is best & use them to kick up the ROI. You're quiet solid on the +$$$ part, so play them alone, then play them w/ the easiest chalk. It may not at a whole helluva a lot to what you do. But it will add up over a year. B/c most weeks all of my chalks go through. (& I don't play them all, prolly 1 in 4 I don't play b/c I'm not sure what to do (like 2 of the 3 Japanese bouts on Thur., left 'em alone, as I was not sure in any direction)). I've had 3-4 week runs where not 1 chalk got beat. They do get upset, but the odds do not favor it, not at all.

    GLA!
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    Posted: May. 5, 2007 - 2:06 AM ET #59

    Also..........it sure as S is a XXXL sized weekend in L.Vegas. B/c all of the BIGname refs were working 2nite. Cortez, Naddy, Mora, the younger African American guy (not Steele), all of 'em, in the house, working both nites. That tells you how big this all truly is.

    I have Rocky & Fillipino slugger guy outstanding for tomorrow, FMayJr. to close a 3 month old Parlay, & FMayJr. closing one of 2nites chalks by any decision.

    GLA!
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    Also..........it sure as S is a XXXL sized weekend in L.Vegas. B/c all of the BIGname refs were working 2nite. Cortez, Naddy, Mora, the younger African American guy (not Steele), all of 'em, in the house, working both nites. That tells you how big this all truly is.

    I have Rocky & Fillipino slugger guy outstanding for tomorrow, FMayJr. to close a 3 month old Parlay, & FMayJr. closing one of 2nites chalks by any decision.

    GLA!
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    Posted: May. 5, 2007 - 2:33 AM ET #60

    Quote Originally Posted by bigeiii:

    Yah; that was nice 2nite Fbs.

    Scott was not in contact w/ the Ropes. He was moving backwards, kinda, slightly to his left, & he suddenly brought his right Knew up (kinda like stepping on some unseen sharp object w/ barefeet). I actully thought he was clowning Shufford. But on seeing it in slowmo', looked like he hyperextened it.

    I'll take that name under advisement. But I've already locked up the domain-name for such. Initials are BPP.

    I suspect you need to try it. (learn by doing, not by watching) Take next week, use whatever book that offers the lowest pure min.wager ($5 most places). Then take the chalk you are sure is gonna win. Then take whatever +$$$ bet(s) you think is best & use them to kick up the ROI. You're quiet solid on the +$$$ part, so play them alone, then play them w/ the easiest chalk. It may not at a whole helluva a lot to what you do. But it will add up over a year. B/c most weeks all of my chalks go through. (& I don't play them all, prolly 1 in 4 I don't play b/c I'm not sure what to do (like 2 of the 3 Japanese bouts on Thur., left 'em alone, as I was not sure in any direction)). I've had 3-4 week runs where not 1 chalk got beat. They do get upset, but the odds do not favor it, not at all.

    GLA!
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    I think I will just let it be, it's not my style and just let you keep doing your thing.  My style is money management, + money, low chalk, a parlay here or there, and posting plays/units so that others can run with them.  I think playing heavy chalk doesn't really take much handicapping skill and can't make money in the long haul, but it appears that the system you use works for you.  Maybe it was my g-father's influence; the man who first got me into the sport and loved a juicy dog, but I have always disliked heavy chalk.  "BPP"; is that BigeiiiPlaysParlays.com?  Do you have any stats that you use for the first to 10 points plays above?  They seem like betting on a coin toss or even worse int the case that you have to lay -175 like that one on Phoenix.  I don't  think that we have discussed it yet, but I may be against you on that Miranda play.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigeiii:

    Yah; that was nice 2nite Fbs.

    Scott was not in contact w/ the Ropes. He was moving backwards, kinda, slightly to his left, & he suddenly brought his right Knew up (kinda like stepping on some unseen sharp object w/ barefeet). I actully thought he was clowning Shufford. But on seeing it in slowmo', looked like he hyperextened it.

    I'll take that name under advisement. But I've already locked up the domain-name for such. Initials are BPP.

    I suspect you need to try it. (learn by doing, not by watching) Take next week, use whatever book that offers the lowest pure min.wager ($5 most places). Then take the chalk you are sure is gonna win. Then take whatever +$$$ bet(s) you think is best & use them to kick up the ROI. You're quiet solid on the +$$$ part, so play them alone, then play them w/ the easiest chalk. It may not at a whole helluva a lot to what you do. But it will add up over a year. B/c most weeks all of my chalks go through. (& I don't play them all, prolly 1 in 4 I don't play b/c I'm not sure what to do (like 2 of the 3 Japanese bouts on Thur., left 'em alone, as I was not sure in any direction)). I've had 3-4 week runs where not 1 chalk got beat. They do get upset, but the odds do not favor it, not at all.

    GLA!
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    I think I will just let it be, it's not my style and just let you keep doing your thing.  My style is money management, + money, low chalk, a parlay here or there, and posting plays/units so that others can run with them.  I think playing heavy chalk doesn't really take much handicapping skill and can't make money in the long haul, but it appears that the system you use works for you.  Maybe it was my g-father's influence; the man who first got me into the sport and loved a juicy dog, but I have always disliked heavy chalk.  "BPP"; is that BigeiiiPlaysParlays.com?  Do you have any stats that you use for the first to 10 points plays above?  They seem like betting on a coin toss or even worse int the case that you have to lay -175 like that one on Phoenix.  I don't  think that we have discussed it yet, but I may be against you on that Miranda play.

     
     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2007 - 11:21 AM ET #61

    Interesting on EM. Remember my ".....I'm gonna throw a come see miss. pauline mag' get her A kicked party"
    MAC blast in 'o6? I'm about 1/2 way there for EM. i.e. a really strong play.

    The stats are from opening up ESPN/CBS/FOX.com's or any1 who has a game log. You look to see who has raced out to 1st to 10 points over the last 3-5 games overall, or even better, in playoff time, who has been 1st to 10 head-to-head. You find a trend, you look for a hot shooting team in the last game (must have this!), & the hometeam (most of the time), or a injured host team (like my Lakers last time). HTH's.

    GLA!
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    Interesting on EM. Remember my ".....I'm gonna throw a come see miss. pauline mag' get her A kicked party"
    MAC blast in 'o6? I'm about 1/2 way there for EM. i.e. a really strong play.

    The stats are from opening up ESPN/CBS/FOX.com's or any1 who has a game log. You look to see who has raced out to 1st to 10 points over the last 3-5 games overall, or even better, in playoff time, who has been 1st to 10 head-to-head. You find a trend, you look for a hot shooting team in the last game (must have this!), & the hometeam (most of the time), or a injured host team (like my Lakers last time). HTH's.

    GLA!
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    Posted: May. 5, 2007 - 12:58 PM ET #62

    I just seem to be flashing back to the images of Miranda being buzzed by Eastman and hitting the canvas last time out against Green.  Pavlik may be casper-white, but he is a tough SOB and he is not going pose like Green did.  The ghost can crack.
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    I just seem to be flashing back to the images of Miranda being buzzed by Eastman and hitting the canvas last time out against Green.  Pavlik may be casper-white, but he is a tough SOB and he is not going pose like Green did.  The ghost can crack.
     
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    He can crack moreso than Green did (or more than Green was willing to). I'll give him that. But to me what he lacks is the strength to keep EM off of him. He does have some Voltage, but that's not strenght. Kinda like E.Holy' was strong from lifting a billion weights, but never Powerful. It's the reverse here. As I highly suspect that something big from EM will eventually catch-up to "The Ghost". I will very likely play EM InTheDist.

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    He can crack moreso than Green did (or more than Green was willing to). I'll give him that. But to me what he lacks is the strength to keep EM off of him. He does have some Voltage, but that's not strenght. Kinda like E.Holy' was strong from lifting a billion weights, but never Powerful. It's the reverse here. As I highly suspect that something big from EM will eventually catch-up to "The Ghost". I will very likely play EM InTheDist.

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    Posted: May. 6, 2007 - 12:36 AM ET #64

    All 3 chalks=!!
    FMayJr. by any Decision=!!!
    I had it 114-114.

    ODLH was more agressive, & more assertive than I expected. FMayJr. did n0t fight his best fight. ODLH got close to "E" on petrol, but was impressive, though I'm pretty unimpressed by PBF. He was running a bit too much, to have a clear cut Talent edge to me.
     
    Rocky is a 3 time non-Title winner. Prolly 4-time after 2nite. Which is to his cred, but only to a degree.
     
    "Boom-Boom" won. So I kan't complain much. But I had that closer than the s.cards had it. I need to see more on RB.
     
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    All 3 chalks=!!
    FMayJr. by any Decision=!!!
    I had it 114-114.

    ODLH was more agressive, & more assertive than I expected. FMayJr. did n0t fight his best fight. ODLH got close to "E" on petrol, but was impressive, though I'm pretty unimpressed by PBF. He was running a bit too much, to have a clear cut Talent edge to me.
     
    Rocky is a 3 time non-Title winner. Prolly 4-time after 2nite. Which is to his cred, but only to a degree.
     
    "Boom-Boom" won. So I kan't complain much. But I had that closer than the s.cards had it. I need to see more on RB.
     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2007 - 2:31 AM ET #65

    1 unit to win 1.29:
    Calderon (-450)
    Torres (-600)

    Mayweather (-165)


    Hedges for Mayweather parlays:
    .20 of a unit on Oscar by Split Decision (+1400)

    .20 of a unit on Oscar by Majority Decision (+1800)
    .10 of a unit on a Draw (+1600)


    Ended up not needing my hedge plays, but I was glad I was down on them before that last scorecard was read.  I had the fight 115-113 Mayweather and may have been influenced a bit by all people in the room screaming for every punch Oscar threw.  A great week, next week looks dull although, I will probably go against Hoye on Wednesday.

    Final Tally for the week: Won 5.51 Units 


    Mayweather also kept my month and half long parlay rolling along......

    1 unit to win 5.57:
    Froch -610
    Kessler -425
    Pacquiao -600

    Sturm -260

    Mayweather -220
    Taylor -350
    Ibragimov -195


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    1 unit to win 1.29:
    Calderon (-450)
    Torres (-600)

    Mayweather (-165)


    Hedges for Mayweather parlays:
    .20 of a unit on Oscar by Split Decision (+1400)

    .20 of a unit on Oscar by Majority Decision (+1800)
    .10 of a unit on a Draw (+1600)


    Ended up not needing my hedge plays, but I was glad I was down on them before that last scorecard was read.  I had the fight 115-113 Mayweather and may have been influenced a bit by all people in the room screaming for every punch Oscar threw.  A great week, next week looks dull although, I will probably go against Hoye on Wednesday.

    Final Tally for the week: Won 5.51 Units 


    Mayweather also kept my month and half long parlay rolling along......

    1 unit to win 5.57:
    Froch -610
    Kessler -425
    Pacquiao -600

    Sturm -260

    Mayweather -220
    Taylor -350
    Ibragimov -195


     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2007 - 10:40 AM ET #66

    Besides another solid week in normal betting terms, I also won the free contest from 5dimes they had here at Covers.  Had Mayweather by 4 points.


    You can't beat free money....

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    Besides another solid week in normal betting terms, I also won the free contest from 5dimes they had here at Covers.  Had Mayweather by 4 points.


    You can't beat free money....

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    Posted: May. 6, 2007 - 4:46 PM ET #67

    Nice points call Fbs.

    Why against Hoye? I kinda agry; but need to study that more. AD does have home-court, but Hoye does have the Size & Power advantages. Don't often see a female Trainer (for AD) either.

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    Nice points call Fbs.

    Why against Hoye? I kinda agry; but need to study that more. AD does have home-court, but Hoye does have the Size & Power advantages. Don't often see a female Trainer (for AD) either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigeiii:

    Nice points call Fbs.

    Why against Hoye? I kinda agry; but need to study that more. AD does have home-court, but Hoye does have the Size & Power advantages. Don't often see a female Trainer (for AD) either.

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    Stéphane Larouche is actually a male trainer.  He also trains Lucian Bute (who I am pretty high on), an Interbox stablemate of Diaconu's.  Diaconu has the homecourt edge like you said and I like the way stylistically he matches up with Hoye.  Hoye definitely has the size edge as well as 2'' reach advantage, but he doesn't use his height like he should.  I don't know if you viewed his fight against 5' 7'' Montell Griffin, but I thought he got a gift decision that night.  I scored the fight 8-4 for Griffin as Hoye refused to let his hands go.  Hoye has always been overrated in my book.  Won't know for sure if I am playing Diaconu until the odds come out, but I am off the fight if I don't play him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigeiii:

    Nice points call Fbs.

    Why against Hoye? I kinda agry; but need to study that more. AD does have home-court, but Hoye does have the Size & Power advantages. Don't often see a female Trainer (for AD) either.

    GLA!
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    Stéphane Larouche is actually a male trainer.  He also trains Lucian Bute (who I am pretty high on), an Interbox stablemate of Diaconu's.  Diaconu has the homecourt edge like you said and I like the way stylistically he matches up with Hoye.  Hoye definitely has the size edge as well as 2'' reach advantage, but he doesn't use his height like he should.  I don't know if you viewed his fight against 5' 7'' Montell Griffin, but I thought he got a gift decision that night.  I scored the fight 8-4 for Griffin as Hoye refused to let his hands go.  Hoye has always been overrated in my book.  Won't know for sure if I am playing Diaconu until the odds come out, but I am off the fight if I don't play him.
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