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    Why Pacquiao (PacMan) won the fight (Please take note)

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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2008 - 7:03 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by LetMeSpin:

    Paul Williams....ugh....that's a low blow FB.


    Lol, wasn't aimed at you.  I don't think you made a play simply off of who would make more money in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LetMeSpin:

    Paul Williams....ugh....that's a low blow FB.


    Lol, wasn't aimed at you.  I don't think you made a play simply off of who would make more money in the future.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2008 - 2:23 PM ET #27

    Fullbrights: I just bring into consideration when I feel that the fight is most likely to be close and goes to a decision. To ignore the fact that judges have been paid to favor favorites is ignorant. I didn't feel that this fight had to be considered for that. It was a close fight, and people can cry either way, but it doesn't change the outcome. I just brought up two examples that I saw ringside. I'm sure I could of have made a list much longer and with more significance.
     
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    Fullbrights: I just bring into consideration when I feel that the fight is most likely to be close and goes to a decision. To ignore the fact that judges have been paid to favor favorites is ignorant. I didn't feel that this fight had to be considered for that. It was a close fight, and people can cry either way, but it doesn't change the outcome. I just brought up two examples that I saw ringside. I'm sure I could of have made a list much longer and with more significance.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2008 - 6:05 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by The-Ionizer:

    Fullbrights: I just bring into consideration when I feel that the fight is most likely to be close and goes to a decision. To ignore the fact that judges have been paid to favor favorites is ignorant. I didn't feel that this fight had to be considered for that. It was a close fight, and people can cry either way, but it doesn't change the outcome. I just brought up two examples that I saw ringside. I'm sure I could of have made a list much longer and with more significance.
     
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    I agreed that it should be a factor, I have always been a firm believer in that, but you guys acted like it was the be all end all for betting a fight.  You said......
    "Key rule in boxing betting, when placing a wager on a fight, where it is likely to go to a decision, don't bet against the fighter who will make a bigger money fight if he wins."

    So you thought the fight was most likely to be close yet you took out 7 units on Manny at -180?

    You never answered my tout question.



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    Quote Originally Posted by The-Ionizer:

    Fullbrights: I just bring into consideration when I feel that the fight is most likely to be close and goes to a decision. To ignore the fact that judges have been paid to favor favorites is ignorant. I didn't feel that this fight had to be considered for that. It was a close fight, and people can cry either way, but it doesn't change the outcome. I just brought up two examples that I saw ringside. I'm sure I could of have made a list much longer and with more significance.
     
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    I agreed that it should be a factor, I have always been a firm believer in that, but you guys acted like it was the be all end all for betting a fight.  You said......
    "Key rule in boxing betting, when placing a wager on a fight, where it is likely to go to a decision, don't bet against the fighter who will make a bigger money fight if he wins."

    So you thought the fight was most likely to be close yet you took out 7 units on Manny at -180?

    You never answered my tout question.



     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2008 - 7:03 PM ET #29

    I thought Pacquiao would be a little more dominant in the fight, as I stated in previous posts. What is the tout question I never answered?
     
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    I thought Pacquiao would be a little more dominant in the fight, as I stated in previous posts. What is the tout question I never answered?
     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2008 - 9:50 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by The-Ionizer:

    I thought Pacquiao would be a little more dominant in the fight, as I stated in previous posts. What is the tout question I never answered?
     
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    Nah, I know, it just seemed like you were sort of saying with these posts that you thought it was going to be a close fight going in and bet on Manny just because you thought he would get the nod in a tight one.

    I asked you in these threads....
    Link

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    Quote Originally Posted by The-Ionizer:

    I thought Pacquiao would be a little more dominant in the fight, as I stated in previous posts. What is the tout question I never answered?
     
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    Nah, I know, it just seemed like you were sort of saying with these posts that you thought it was going to be a close fight going in and bet on Manny just because you thought he would get the nod in a tight one.

    I asked you in these threads....
    Link

    Link

     
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2008 - 11:49 AM ET #31

    Link:The tout thing: Yes, I use to have a large following on several sports. Now, just some friends and wealthy people who want action on anything.
    btw- Marquez's hand speed wasn't diminshed a bit, but Pacquiao boxing ability had increased substantially, if not, he would have been beat every round. His short right hand hook, balance, and his ability to move in and out saved him a one way beating. If you read my most on Marquez before the fight, I rate him as one of the best boxers of all. I felt that Manny's speed & power, and with his increased ability would win Manny the fight. I didn't think he would KO Marquez, but I didn't want to bet the fight on decision only on the reasons that a cut or swelling could prevent in from going over.
    Link: Yes, it was to win 7 units, so I was risking 12.6.
     
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    Link:The tout thing: Yes, I use to have a large following on several sports. Now, just some friends and wealthy people who want action on anything.
    btw- Marquez's hand speed wasn't diminshed a bit, but Pacquiao boxing ability had increased substantially, if not, he would have been beat every round. His short right hand hook, balance, and his ability to move in and out saved him a one way beating. If you read my most on Marquez before the fight, I rate him as one of the best boxers of all. I felt that Manny's speed & power, and with his increased ability would win Manny the fight. I didn't think he would KO Marquez, but I didn't want to bet the fight on decision only on the reasons that a cut or swelling could prevent in from going over.
    Link: Yes, it was to win 7 units, so I was risking 12.6.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2008 - 1:37 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by The-Ionizer:

    Link:The tout thing: Yes, I use to have a large following on several sports. Now, just some friends and wealthy people who want action on anything.
    btw- Marquez's hand speed wasn't diminshed a bit, but Pacquiao boxing ability had increased substantially, if not, he would have been beat every round. His short right hand hook, balance, and his ability to move in and out saved him a one way beating. If you read my most on Marquez before the fight, I rate him as one of the best boxers of all. I felt that Manny's speed & power, and with his increased ability would win Manny the fight. I didn't think he would KO Marquez, but I didn't want to bet the fight on decision only on the reasons that a cut or swelling could prevent in from going over.
    Link: Yes, it was to win 7 units, so I was risking 12.6.
     
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    I thought that was tout language I spotted. 

    His balance is better and yeah he has realized that he has two hands now, but it isn't a substantial gain and he still reverts back to his old style far too often.

    Uh, I never saw 12.6 mentioned anywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The-Ionizer:

    Link:The tout thing: Yes, I use to have a large following on several sports. Now, just some friends and wealthy people who want action on anything.
    btw- Marquez's hand speed wasn't diminshed a bit, but Pacquiao boxing ability had increased substantially, if not, he would have been beat every round. His short right hand hook, balance, and his ability to move in and out saved him a one way beating. If you read my most on Marquez before the fight, I rate him as one of the best boxers of all. I felt that Manny's speed & power, and with his increased ability would win Manny the fight. I didn't think he would KO Marquez, but I didn't want to bet the fight on decision only on the reasons that a cut or swelling could prevent in from going over.
    Link: Yes, it was to win 7 units, so I was risking 12.6.
     
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    I thought that was tout language I spotted. 

    His balance is better and yeah he has realized that he has two hands now, but it isn't a substantial gain and he still reverts back to his old style far too often.

    Uh, I never saw 12.6 mentioned anywhere.
     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2008 - 4:50 PM ET #33

    Well, I just note the unit as a standard 1-1. Just as I posted Rafael Marquez +140 (2.5 Units). So favorites it's to win that amount of units (risking more units in the scenario 12.6 if a loss, but 7.0 units on a win), and underdogs it's that amount of units. (so the loss is 2.5 units, but a win would be +3.5)
     
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    Well, I just note the unit as a standard 1-1. Just as I posted Rafael Marquez +140 (2.5 Units). So favorites it's to win that amount of units (risking more units in the scenario 12.6 if a loss, but 7.0 units on a win), and underdogs it's that amount of units. (so the loss is 2.5 units, but a win would be +3.5)
     
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